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Finally. I'm glad to see someone getting arrested for this idiotic shit, though the cops waited until he spit in their direction. This guy's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor.

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Well I just scanned the net for the latest news on the Israel war in Gaza, since I hadn't heard much about it for a while. It looks like there's plenty of things happening, and if I'm reading it right, it appears (to me anyway) that Netanyahu is proceeding as planned, operating more in southern Gaza.

And uncle joe is kissing the ass of Michigan residents who are protesting and organizing on behalf of Gaza, looking for votes I'm sure, telling them whatever stupid lies he may or may not dream at any moment.

The Lebanese are still messing with Israel, I think Israel just took out one of their terrorist officers or some or another responsible for shooting at them from Lebanon.

Regarding US operations over there in the wider area I'm always confused about it, since it's hard to understand the facts and any context or education about the operations themselves, vice any exaggeration and lies from the media about the mess, let alone from the Pentagon and the potus admin. When Pentagon officers speak publicly about it, I'm not much more educated than from all the other talking heads, liars, cheats, and shills.




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Senior Hamas Nukhba Brigade Commander Abu al-Baraa told the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) during interrogations on Thursday that he had a message for the remaining Hamas fighters, "I recommend everyone surrender, your fate is death."

The Shin Bet published parts of their investigation of Hamas operative Muhammad Nasir Suleiman Abu-Namr or Abu al-Baraa - who told them about the moments when he was captured and how he and his friends chose to lay down their arms and surrender.

When Abu al-Baraa was asked in the investigation who was arrested along with him, he gave the name of two other members: "Hamis Saafi and Iyad al-Astal".

After that, he told the investigators what weapons the three had, "Kalashnikovs, RPGs, explosive charges, improvised explosive devices." However, he clarified that when the other soldiers entered the tunnel, they did not open fire.

"We came to the decision that we don't want to fight and as soon as the army comes we will turn ourselves in," said Abu al-Baraa.

According to him, "We sat in the room, we put all the weapons outside, outside the room. And the army came and took all the weapons. We sat and waited. When the army arrived, we raised our hands and surrendered."

In addition, when asked to convey a message to other members of the organization who are currently in the tunnels, he said: "I recommend everyone to surrender because your destiny is to die."
 
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Senior Hamas Nukhba Brigade Commander Abu al-Baraa told the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) during interrogations on Thursday that he had a message for the remaining Hamas fighters, "I recommend everyone surrender, your fate is death."


Wait a second, hold on there. What about that whole martyr and virgin thing? Confused
 
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"I recommend everyone to surrender because [your destiny is to die."]
But I thought that's what they wanted/needed to do in order to meet their 72 virgins. Or did I miss a meeting somewhere???


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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the Israeli military Friday to prepare a plan to evacuate Palestinian civilians from the Gaza town of Rafah, on the Egyptian border, and to attack and destroy the last Hamas battalions there.

Israel has said for days that it intends to attack Hamas in Rafah, the last area of the Gaza Strip that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have not struck. The town is crucial to Israeli victory: it is used by Hamas to smuggle weapons, and people in and out.

However, it is also the place to which many Palestinian civilians displaced by fighting elsewhere in Gaza have fled. Egypt has publicly opposed an Israeli attack on Rafah because of the possibility that it would encourage Palestinians to cross the border.

On Thursday, White House national security spokesman John Kirby told reporters that an Israeli attack on Rafah would be a “disaster” under present conditions, and that the U.S. would not support it. He claimed, bizarrely, that Israel was not preparing such an attack — despite numerous public statements by Israeli spokespeople and by Netanyahu himself that an attack on Rafah was both imminent and necessary to win the war, after Israel had destroyed almost all of Hamas’s terrorist Battalions in Gaza.

Also on Thursday, President Joe Biden shocked Israelis by saying that Israel’s conduct in Gaza against Hamas had been “over the top,” suggesting the U.S. wanted to stop the war.

On Friday, just before sundown and the onset of the Jewish Sabbath, Netanyahu delivered the following statement (translated from Hebrew by the Government Press Organization):

It is impossible to achieve the goal of the war of eliminating Hamas by leaving four Hamas battalions in Rafah.

On the contrary, it is clear that intense activity in Rafah requires that civilians evacuate the areas of combat.

Therefore, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has ordered the IDF and the security establishment to submit to the Cabinet a combined plan for evacuating the population and destroying the battalions.

https://www.breitbart.com/midd...st-hamas-battalions/
 
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Biden is turning on Israel because he needs muslim votes. That and he’s not convinced Israel has a right to exist.



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Biden has no idea what's going on and we'll never know his true feelings on the matter because he's not calling any shots. Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland and Blinken are running this op and we know their loyalties lie with whomever makes the US weakest.

BTW, what is Israel going to do with prisoners? This is not the kind of war where the loser signs a surrender document, lays down its arms and admits defeat. That's what was traditionally required for the release of POWs in the old days. Israel would have to start up a serious re-education regime for these prisoners to not end up right back where they started.
 
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Biden is turning on Israel because he needs muslim votes.

Yep, everything they do is political. The left needs Michigan (and Minnesota), so they'll be pandering to the muslims from here on out.


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Biden is turning on Israel because he needs muslim votes.

Yep, everything they do is political. The left needs Michigan (and Minnesota), so they'll be pandering to the muslims from here on out.

I don't think either of you are wrong but, it's too narrow a reason. It's clear that Gen-Z & Millennials are very much attracted to the pro-Palestine beliefs, which is bolstered by the DEI precept that the world is divided amongst oppressors & the oppressed.
In their belief world, Israel is an oppressor of Palestinians, ergo Israel is bad...nevermind the heinous acts that was done on Oct 7, the genocidal positions of Hamas & other Palestinian militia groups or, the illiberal beliefs of many of those societies in that part of the world. Its the younger voters whom the Dems are fearing they will loose out on, they'll leave the party certainly won't vote GOP but, will go to the DSA and Green Party.
 
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It's not about votes.




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Bidet isn't calling the shots - Obama is
 
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I think the administrations real fear is Israel will succeed in routing Hamas.

All roads eventually lead to Iran.


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Beneath the Gaza Strip headquarters of the controversial United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, known commonly as UNRWA, the Hamas terror group hid one of its most significant assets, the Israeli military has revealed.

The subterranean data center — complete with an electrical room, industrial battery power banks and living quarters for Hamas terrorists operating the computer servers — was built precisely under the location where Israel would not consider looking initially, let alone target in an airstrike.

The revelation of the server farm comes amid other accusations of UNRWA collusion with the Gaza-ruling terror group and the entanglement of the UN body that provides welfare and humanitarian services for Palestinian refugees from the 1948 and 1967 wars and their descendants.

Israel last month accused 12 staff with the UN Palestinian refugee agency of taking part in the October 7 massacre by Hamas-led terrorists, who killed 1,200 people and took 253 hostages in the murderous rampage.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/...t-hamas-data-center/

IDF officials believe Hamas used the server farm for intelligence gathering, data processing and communications. Hard drives and some of the computers were taken to Israel to be investigated by intelligence authorities before the tunnel system was demolished in a large explosion.

Hazan said the IDF knows of several more “strategic” Hamas tunnels in Gaza, that they will reach in time.

At the main building in the UN complex, Aharon led the reporters to UNRWA’s server room, which he said sits directly above the underground Hamas data center, where the reporters had been a short while earlier.

“Some of the cables connect down,” he said, showing a line of cables running down to and into the floor, as we stood above the Hamas data center.

The IDF said the electrical cables leading from the UN building to the tunnel were providing power to the Hamas infrastructure belowground.
 
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Where will the POW's be sent to destabilize? America of course
 
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BTW, what is Israel going to do with prisoners? This is not the kind of war where the loser signs a surrender document, lays down its arms and admits defeat. That's what was traditionally required for the release of POWs in the old days. Israel would have to start up a serious re-education regime for these prisoners to not end up right back where they started.

Just leave them there. No help, nothing, nada, the end of the line. No-one is allowed to come in for relief, no one may escape into Israel to hide or commit terrorism. You created your hell hole now you must live in it unless you can make it to another country that will take you. No matter WHAT Israel does to help, they will be hated even more just for helping them, so it would be best to leave them to their own devices, 100%. Whoever survives and later attacks Israelis, they will be eliminated. No ifs, ands, or buts about it, it's over.

If you've ever tried to help a bad person, you know exactly how that goes. It's some kind of basic human behavior, returning evil for good. More good given, more evil is returned. Even more good is given, even more evil is returned.

So at some point the good have to stop giving more good, to avoid being killed.

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The Biden administration, after urging by left-wing Democrats, issued a memorandum Thursday that will require Israel to submit a report within 45 days on its compliance with international humanitarian law in its war against Hamas terrorists in Gaza.

The memorandum, announced by the White House, theoretically applies to any country that receives weapons from the United States and is actively involved in armed conflict. But the White House all but admitted Friday that it was targeted at Israel.

Left-wing Democrats, and socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), have been pushing for reports on Israel’s compliance with human rights standards as a way of trying to embarrass Israel and to stop U.S. support for Israel’s war effort against Hamas in Gaza.

When put to a vote, Sanders’s suggestion only received eleven votes in the Senate. By issuing a memorandum, President Joe Biden is essentially suggesting that congressional will be set aside and that Israel be forced to comply the demands of its critics.

The new requirement comes amid increased pressure from the Biden administration on Israel to end the war, as well as increased public criticism. It also comes as Israel faces false charges of “genocide” at the International Court of Justice at The Hague.
 
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Israel is done “negotiating” with both terrorists and assholes like Biden. Hell, at the rate they’re dissembling Hamas, they might be done in less than 45 days and halfway done with the 1 km no mans land.




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The new requirement comes amid increased pressure from the Biden administration on Israel to end the war, as well as increased public criticism. It also comes as Israel faces false charges of “genocide” at the International Court of Justice at The Hague.


A better question. When will our wars end?


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Egypt warns Israel Rafah offensive may lead to suspension of peace treaty

Saudis also raise alarm; ground op pledged by Netanyahu in refugee-packed border city draws rebukes even from allies

https://www.timesofisrael.com/...ion-of-peace-treaty/

Egypt and Saudi Arabia have added their voices to a rising tide of criticism of a planned Israeli ground offensive in the Gaza Strip’s southern city of Rafah, after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated that such a campaign was forthcoming.

Netanyahu announced Friday that he had ordered the Israeli military to present the cabinet with a plan to both evacuate the city’s civilian population — augmented by over one million refugees from the strip’s north and center — and destroy Hamas’s remaining battalions in the area.

According to Netanyahu, an assault on Rafah is critical to completing Israel’s stated war aim of dismantling Hamas. Earlier in the week, the premier rejected Hamas’s “delusional” terms for a hostage deal, which included a full withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Strip and the release of hundreds of terrorists serving life sentences.

“There is limited space and great risk in putting Rafah under further military escalation due to the growing number of Palestinians there,” Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said on Saturday during a press briefing, warning that an escalation would have “dire consequences.”

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Egyptian officials warned the decades-long peace treaty between Egypt and Israel could be suspended if Israel Defense Forces’ troops enter Rafah, or if any of Rafah’s refugees are forced southward into the Sinai Peninsula.

In addition, Saudi Arabia — which has already conditioned normalization with Israel on an end to hostilities and steps toward the establishment of a Palestinian state — issued a statement Saturday warning of “the extremely dangerous repercussions of storming and targeting the city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip,” given the city being “the last refuge for hundreds of thousands of people.”

Reuters reported that in an effort to forestall a massive influx of refugees, Egypt has over the past two weeks stationed some 40 tanks near its border with Gaza, after having reinforced the border wall since the beginning of hostilities, both structurally and with surveillance equipment.

On Friday, Israel’s Channel 12 also reported that IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi was opposed to Netanyahu’s plan for a swift Rafah campaign, saying that although the military is technically capable of such an operation, it would be unwise to undertake it without coordination with the Egyptians and plans for the city’s massive refugee population.

Netanyahu, according to the report, thinks the IDF would need to wrap up a Rafah campaign by the March 10 start of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.

in Rafah, Wednesday, January 24, 2024. (AP Photo/Hatem Ali)
Egypt and Saudi Arabia have added their voices to a rising tide of criticism of a planned Israeli ground offensive in the Gaza Strip’s southern city of Rafah, after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicated that such a campaign was forthcoming.

Netanyahu announced Friday that he had ordered the Israeli military to present the cabinet with a plan to both evacuate the city’s civilian population — augmented by over one million refugees from the strip’s north and center — and destroy Hamas’s remaining battalions in the area.

According to Netanyahu, an assault on Rafah is critical to completing Israel’s stated war aim of dismantling Hamas. Earlier in the week, the premier rejected Hamas’s “delusional” terms for a hostage deal, which included a full withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Strip and the release of hundreds of terrorists serving life sentences.

“There is limited space and great risk in putting Rafah under further military escalation due to the growing number of Palestinians there,” Egyptian Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said on Saturday during a press briefing, warning that an escalation would have “dire consequences.”

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Egyptian officials warned the decades-long peace treaty between Egypt and Israel could be suspended if Israel Defense Forces’ troops enter Rafah, or if any of Rafah’s refugees are forced southward into the Sinai Peninsula.

In addition, Saudi Arabia — which has already conditioned normalization with Israel on an end to hostilities and steps toward the establishment of a Palestinian state — issued a statement Saturday warning of “the extremely dangerous repercussions of storming and targeting the city of Rafah in the Gaza Strip,” given the city being “the last refuge for hundreds of thousands of people.”

Reuters reported that in an effort to forestall a massive influx of refugees, Egypt has over the past two weeks stationed some 40 tanks near its border with Gaza, after having reinforced the border wall since the beginning of hostilities, both structurally and with surveillance equipment.

On Friday, Israel’s Channel 12 also reported that IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi was opposed to Netanyahu’s plan for a swift Rafah campaign, saying that although the military is technically capable of such an operation, it would be unwise to undertake it without coordination with the Egyptians and plans for the city’s massive refugee population.

Netanyahu, according to the report, thinks the IDF would need to wrap up a Rafah campaign by the March 10 start of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month.

The two Arab countries’ admonitions follow similar warnings by the United States, where senior figures in the administration of President Joe Biden have publicly decried the prospect of a Rafah offensive as a “disaster.” Philippe Lazzarini, chief of the UN’s aid agency for Palestinian refugees UNRWA, was also quoted by Reuters saying “there is a sense of growing anxiety, growing panic in Rafah because basically people have no idea where to go.”


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