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Originally posted by sigfreund:
1. I believe that the Russians themselves could have done it. The pipelines weren’t providing any income for them...

Except with winter right around the corner and virtually all of Europe in a major bind RE. energy, Putin might have been sitting on NS1/NS2 to provide that energy to Europe at hugely inflated prices. And where else could the Europeans go to get NG?

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3. If the U.S. was responsible, there’s no way that fact won’t become known...

Forgive me for giggling on that one. Tell me, who leaked the Roe V. Wade SCTOUS decision? Hell, we can't even get an answer on that.

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4. One thing that does occur to me, though, is if it were carried out by someone other than Russia, perhaps it was a mistake.

Yeah, I'm struggling with that as a possibility given the complexity of this operation. I'm thinking only a few characters have the tech and ability to pull this off, so they likely knew the status of the pipelines.

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5. And as I think on it, why not the Ukrainians?

I doubt they have the tech and expertise to accomplish it, but 'if' they did do it, they could only accomplish it with the assistance of the US which would be providing both the tech and support for the endeavor. But given Ukraine is 100% reliant on the US and its allies, attacking the pipeline and hurting the people bankrolling you sounds like a very bad idea.

If Biden is responsible for the sabotage of the pipeline, there are a few things we need to consider. Biden didn't hop into a submarine and blow up the pipeline himself. An operation of that complexity involving that many assets would require a fair number of personnel. I don't see how that stays secret for very long. So no, I don't see that this was a US operation.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
Except with winter right around the corner and virtually all of Europe in a major bind RE. energy, Putin might have been sitting on NS1/NS2 to provide that energy to Europe at hugely inflated prices. And where else could the Europeans go to get NG?

See the post above yours - and then factor in that liquid natural gas shipments are already coming over from the US. I think Israel too, but I'm not sure of that.

While you're at it, you might want to read this -

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Ene...dence-On-Russia.html

http://oilprice.com/Latest-Ene...elevant-by-2025.html

Feb 2022

Pres. Biden: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."

video at

https://twitter.com/i/status/1490792461979078662

German newspaper Tagesspiegel reports a government source remarking that the damage to Nord Stream 1 and 2 is “major” and if it is not rectified soon, saltwater corrosion of the inside of the pipes will leave them totally unusable — in other words, “destroyed forever”.

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...deliberate-sabotage/

And, to give the world even further confidence in the POTATUS, just a bit ago Joepedo calls on a dead woman who was JUST GIVEN A TRIBUTE! "Jackie, where's Jackie?":

https://therightscoop.com/rep-...g-wh-speaking-event/

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Originally posted by Fed161:
If Biden is responsible for the sabotage of the pipeline, there are a few things we need to consider. Biden didn't hop into a submarine and blow up the pipeline himself. An operation of that complexity involving that many assets would require a fair number of personnel. I don't see how that stays secret for very long. So no, I don't see that this was a US operation.

1. No, Biden didn't hop into a submarine and blow up the pipeline himself.

2. Yes, An operation of that complexity involving that many assets would require a fair number of personnel.

The depth of the attacks rules out any private actors. You need a submarine, or something like a submarine, to reach those depths. The depths help hide the attack, and make it hard to gather evidence to figure out who did it. The attacks’ depth also makes it hard to repair the pipelines. The explosions produced earth tremors up to 2.5 on the Richter scale, so we can safely assume the terrorists used military-grade weapons.

About a month ago, the Defense Post ran an article headlined, “UK Donates Underwater Drones to Ukraine for Mine-Hunting.” Fascinating. The article explained the drones are remote-controlled, and can swim up to 100 meters (328 feet) deep — thirty feet deeper than the two explosions, in other words.

Ukraine also now has those British mine-hunter drones that can go 330 feet deep. Those might really be dangerous if, say, Ukraine had a larger ally to help rig a couple mine-hunters for detonation, and point out exactly where the pipelines are.

ABILITY: Which players had the resources, access, and opportunity to carry out the crimes? The UK and the United States, without help. Ukraine could have helped, but could not have pulled off the job, not by itself.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ost&utm_medium=email

3.I don't see how that stays secret for very long.
I agree and disagree. There will be plenty of clues, but Biden will probably always have plausible deniability. It was likely done with a drone and in over 300 feet of water so the crime scene won't be easy to investigate. You can't send divers that deep.

Does anybody in their right mind actually think Susan or Barry let’s Potatus make that kind of a decision, I don’t, he’s the meat puppet of blame.

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Originally posted by spunk639:
Does anybody in their right mind actually think Susan or Barry let’s Potatus make that kind of a decision, I don’t, he’s the meat puppet of blame.

We've known it all along, but at this point, I don't think that even a Democrat would think that Joe makes any decisions.

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Originally posted by BMR:
And, to give the world even further confidence in the POTATUS, just a bit ago Joepedo calls on a dead woman who was JUST GIVEN A TRIBUTE! "Jackie, where's Jackie?":

https://therightscoop.com/rep-...g-wh-speaking-event/

I fear the dementia is worsening. He's progressed from asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up, to looking for a dead woman in the room.

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Originally posted by BMR:
And, to give the world even further confidence in the POTATUS, just a bit ago Joepedo calls on a dead woman who was JUST GIVEN A TRIBUTE! "Jackie, where's Jackie?":

https://therightscoop.com/rep-...g-wh-speaking-event/

My goodness.

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I fear the dementia is worsening. He's progressed from asking a guy in a wheelchair to stand up, to looking for a dead woman in the room.

Biden isn't any longer capable of tying his own shoes, but we should expect he is running the country.

The person that should be most ashamed of putting somebody she supposedly loves is “Dr. Jill,” but she cares more about the trappings of being first lady. She is as much of a disgrace as him. Then again, she was screwing Joe while she was still married, so kind of hard to be surprised at anything she does.

For those that remember when Nancy Reagan was first lady, can you imagine her letting Ron embarrass himself and his country like this? I can’t, because she loved him deeply and was very protective of him.

What is truly sickening is the corrupt media completely ignoring the fact that this man is deteriorating right before everyone’s eyes, but they continue to look the other way. These assholes questioned Trump’s was mental state when he was clearly in command of his faculties but that asshole Biden gets a pass. Traitors all.

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Originally posted by BMR:
The person that should be most ashamed of putting somebody she supposedly loves is “Dr. Jill,” but she cares more about the trappings of being first lady. She is as much of a disgrace as him.

Reminds me of hillary. Stayed with him for her own political and financial gain down the line.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
What is truly sickening is the corrupt media completely ignoring the fact that this man is deteriorating right before everyone’s eyes, but they continue to look the other way. These assholes questioned Trump’s was mental state when he was clearly in command of his faculties but that asshole Biden gets a pass. Traitors all.

Yep. He's lost his damn mind:

"Watch me." -- Joe Biden **imperious smirking**

Perfect.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
What is truly sickening is the corrupt media completely ignoring the fact that this man is deteriorating right before everyone’s eyes, but they continue to look the other way. These assholes questioned Trump’s was mental state when he was clearly in command of his faculties but that asshole Biden gets a pass. Traitors all.

That is the double and triple standard(s) that have me seething on a semi-daily basis. WE ALL KNOW that if it were President Trump doing this, TASS and Pravda would be running with it non-stop. Hell…the media loses its shit if DJT misplaces a participle…let alone goes off on a word salad diatribe!!

But it’s our friends, the Aussies, that thankfully bring this to light. Not that any Demoshits or Libtards are listening……

Oh…almost forgot:
FJB!
FJB!
FJB!

Biden and Harris are the two MOST bumbling, inept President and VP I think I've ever seen in my nearly 50 years on this planet, SMDH:

"The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea"

Yes, two fools making big blunders in the last 24 hours. As Brian Kilmeade said on his radio show, just imagine the late night "comdedians" if this had occurred with a Republican Pres/VP.