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Joe Biden needs Joe Manchin to support his leftist agenda

Manchin has made it pretty clear, and has been consistent that he feels we should be getting things done together. I don't think the White House giving his wife a plum is going to push him into breaking his stance on not voting to eliminate the filibuster.

https://www.politico.com/news/...ts-compromise-477976

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

Manchin has made it pretty clear, and has been consistent that he feels we should be getting things done together. I don't think the White House giving his wife a plum is going to push him into breaking his stance on not voting to eliminate the filibuster.

His stance? Joe Manchin is about as weak and squishy a politician as they come. He's never, NEVER, been the deciding vote on anything. Guaranteed, he will fold if Schumer puts the pressure on him. I have zero respect or faith in Manchin. Spine like a jellyfish.

He's kept his word under some pretty intense pressure. Mainly because he'd be voted out almost immediately, but unlike our own Rino trash, he's kept it.

Only when his vote didn't matter. The man is a squish.

I think this is most definitely a time when his vote matters, squish or not. and he hasn't bent to the party line.

I'm not willing to admit he's a man

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
I think this is most definitely a time when his vote matters, squish or not. and he hasn't bent to the party line.

Well, there hasn't been a vote yet.

And he's already indicated that he's waffling on his word. If it comes down to his one vote, he will fold. I have more faith in Sinema from Arizona. If she votes to keep the filibuster, then so will he. If she doesn't, then it's over.

He's already gone against his word about not voting for the massive $1.9 trillion "covid" bill if it didn't have Republican support or input. Joe Manchin has always voted with his party when it really mattered. Always.

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Joe Manchin has always voted with his party when it really mattered. Always.

Um, no. not exactly.

https://projects.propublica.or...es-against-party/115

I'm willing to admit I'm wrong. Would gladly do so. I want to know what legislation or nomination though where he was the deciding vote.

Here is another link- yes, I know it's from his webpage, but it's all verifiable with fact checking. I'm not saying I trust any democRAT, but he SEEMS to understand the danger to his party of breaking the filibuster. Even if that's his only motivation, it is good for our side.

https://www.manchin.senate.gov...isanship/legislation

Manchin is 73

up for reelection in 2024 when he will be 77

just wondering if he will run again

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Here is another link- yes, I know it's from his webpage, but it's all verifiable with fact checking. I'm not saying I trust any democRAT, but he SEEMS to understand the danger to his party of breaking the filibuster. Even if that's his only motivation, it is good for our side.

https://www.manchin.senate.gov...isanship/legislation

A charade. Manchin will not break with his party if the vote is split evenly and his vote will break the tie.

However, I will be the first to pop back in here and cite this post and scream happily and loudly "I was wrong" if or when that happens.

It appears that Bidet thinks he can do an end run around the constitution with an executive order.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Only when his vote didn't matter...

I agree, but cannot find a news article to back me up.

I'm certain that when it was clear the Dems were going to win or lose and his vote didn't make a difference, Chuck You Schumer gave Manchin permission to vote against the Dems and maintain the charade of being a moderate.

How did he get reelected in 2018?? Are WV voters that gullible?

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but it's all verifiable with fact checking.

Uh huh. Fact checking wasn't needed until the truth started to come out.

back to the Hunter Biden handgun story

Jack Posobiec:

Trump WH official who helped cover up Hunter Biden illegal firearm was Deputy Chief of Staff for Ops Tony Ornato, previously the Secret Service Assistant Director, per messages obtained by reporting

Per source familiar, Ornato's motivation was to protect the USSS agents, not Hunter Biden

https://threadreaderapp.com/th...923997754417152.html

Can Kamala say anything w/o hysterical giggles ?

video at link

https://twitter.com/stillgray/.../1376676100294672386

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Originally posted by sdy:
Can Kamala say anything w/o hysterical giggles ?

Such an awful bitch.

And for chrissakes, take the damn mask off when you're talking. I can't stand these people talking to me with their damned faces covered up.

"We not payin' them nearly enough." Trying real hard to not to have a racist opinion in my head right now.