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Not sure my dad would have pardoned me. I was told that if I was ever in jail to not bother calling home. Perhaps an empty threat, we'll never know, but I certainly think he was serious.

If anyone wonders, I think he was a great dad and am grateful he was mine.
 
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Bongino podcast is fire today. He has impeccable sources still in the White House. He says hunters lawyer was up the ass of Joe last few weeks saying give Hunter the pardon or he’s burning it all down In a book, testimony etc. give it a listen if you have time.


This would only work if the book was already written.


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As any father would do. If this shocks or outrages anyone, you're a silly person.
"As any father would do"??

You need to get your head out of your ass. We're talking about the President of the United States abusing power. How can you not see this? Instead, you yammer on about daddy doing for his little boy.

This is abhorrent, and I guess you'd better mark me down as a "silly person" because you're Goddamned right that I'm outraged, as all decent Americans should be.

Just because this was expected, doesn't make it right, not in any way.

I've cautioned you before and I'm cautioning you once again to avoid painting with such a broad brush. Y'know, it almost seems to me that your comment is an attempt to shame people into not speaking up, that this makes them angry. Instead of trying to shame people here, you ought to be standing with them.


Perhaps you missed my follow-up where I took back what I said.

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Hmmm, yeah, this part makes the whole thing not just shamless and expected but now clearly corrupt. I didn’t realize when I first posted that the pardon was beyond just the tax and gun charges. I take it back, this action by Biden is quite outrageous. Will he pardon the rest of his corrupt family before his departure? I bet he will. He may even pardon himself.


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That dude thinks his opinion is the only opinion.


Fuck you, you presumptuous prick. How's that for an opinion?


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Pardon me, I farted.
 
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Perhaps you missed my follow-up where I took back what I said.
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That dude thinks his opinion is the only opinion.


Fuck you, you presumptuous prick. How's that for an opinion?


Lol...
 
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Cut it out.

You damn well know better than to pull this petty bickering shit.

And by the way, didn't I tell you about this exact thing a while back, with the very same person?

If I go back and look, what might I find? You mind your manners in this forum. You had your little shot and I addressed it directly, and yet here you are, stirring up more shit. I want you to cease this shit altogether, now and forever.
 
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The left's argument for the pardon. For the love of his son (One point they are pushing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfvpNflxk4g

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Jill Wine-Banks says "Hunter was addicted and that was the cause of his actions". That would indicate she is fine with the legal precedent that if you are addicted, you have no responsibility for your actions, no matter what you do.

I am guessing there are thousands of people in jail for actions committed while intoxicated or addicted.

That is the lamest excuse I've ever heard from an attorney on a national stage.




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https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1863573494031589502

Scott Jennings goes off on "brain-rotted" Democrats who are defending Biden's pardon of Hunter.

This CNN panel member got upset at him "hurling names." She claimed Biden never "lied" and Jennings absolutely LOST IT.

"Every American, except the most partisan, brain-rotted people are going to be outraged by this today."

"To sit for a year and say 'I will not do this. I will not do this. The rule of law is sacred. We have to respect the justice system. We have to respect juries, the guardrails and the norms of our democracy.' These people are LIARS."

PANEL MEMBER: "Scott, you don't need to hurl names..."

JENNINGS: "Stand up for yourself, you don't have to defend this. You don't have to die on this hill. You can say 'This is wrong.' Are you fine with the lying?"

PANEL MEMBER: "I don't think that he was lying."

JENNINGS: *Falls forward laughing*

"Joe Biden, Karine Jean-Pierre - how many minutes of tape do we have of both of these people the American people 'this will not happen.' We could play it all morning."

"If Karine Jean-Pierre had an ounce of self respect, she'd get off the plane in Africa today [and] resign."


 
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https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1863573494031589502

Scott Jennings goes off on "brain-rotted" Democrats who are defending Biden's pardon of Hunter.

This CNN panel member got upset at him "hurling names." She claimed Biden never "lied" and Jennings absolutely LOST IT.

"Every American, except the most partisan, brain-rotted people are going to be outraged by this today."

"To sit for a year and say 'I will not do this. I will not do this. The rule of law is sacred. We have to respect the justice system. We have to respect juries, the guardrails and the norms of our democracy.' These people are LIARS."

PANEL MEMBER: "Scott, you don't need to hurl names..."

JENNINGS: "Stand up for yourself, you don't have to defend this. You don't have to die on this hill. You can say 'This is wrong.' Are you fine with the lying?"

PANEL MEMBER: "I don't think that he was lying."

JENNINGS: *Falls forward laughing*

"Joe Biden, Karine Jean-Pierre - how many minutes of tape do we have of both of these people the American people 'this will not happen.' We could play it all morning."

"If Karine Jean-Pierre had an ounce of self respect, she'd get off the plane in Africa today [and] resign."


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Ford's press secretary knew Ford was going to pardon Nixon and he resigned over his disagreement with it. KJP should have a bit of reflection and resign, but that requires a thinking conscience and she doesn't have that.
 
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The Biden family is completely void of character and morals.

Anyone who believes that any father would have done the same for their children is the same.
A father would teach his son values and perhaps give the son help landing a good job. A father wouldn’t use his son as a bagman. Just one more way FJB is a piece of garbage.
 
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As to Joe pardoning himself…

I could see him doing one better. Pardon his whole family and all his business associates. Not sure the timing, but he would step down from the Presidency, allowing Kamala to be sworn in and take over as President.
She now becomes the first woman as President. She pardons Joe. Joe is now praised as a hero by the left.

In the past I would have called this far fetched. Not so much now.



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As to Joe pardoning himself…

I could see him doing one better. Pardon his whole family and all his business associates. Not sure the timing, but he would step down from the Presidency, allowing Kamala to be sworn in and take over as President.
She now becomes the first woman as President. She pardons Joe. Joe is now praised as a hero by the left.

In the past I would have called this far fetched. Not so much now.


It is far fetched because Jill... I mean Joe knows that there would be no guarantee that Kamala would pardon him. Because they all dislike each other, especially right now.
 
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Joe does not need a Pardon. No one is going to go after him for anything at all no matter what comes to light.


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In the past I would have called this far fetched. Not so much now.


I wouldn't call it far fetched, I would call it "ain't going to happen, no way, no how".



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The Biden family is completely void of character and morals.

Anyone who believes that any father would have done the same for their children is the same.
A father would teach his son values and perhaps give the son help landing a good job. A father wouldn’t use his son as a bagman. Just one more way FJB is a piece of garbage.

Yes, exactly. Andrea goes into more detail here:

The inevitable Hunter pardon and the insightful, amusing reactions on X
By Andrea Widburg

The only thing that surprised me about Joe Biden’s decision to pardon Hunter for all federal crimes, past, present, and future, is that he did it with six weeks left in his presidency. I was betting that he’d do it on his way out of the Oval Office, but I forgot that Hunter was due to be sentenced, which would have sent him straight to jail. Daddy couldn’t allow that. Hunter knows where all the Biden bodies are buried.
...
Once Hunter grew up, Joe made him his bagman. To that end, Joe dragged Hunter all over the world to sell, if not access to power, the illusion of access to power.

Joe knew that what he was doing was illegal, and rather than doing it himself, he took advantage of the pathetic drug and sex addict that is his son. The whole time he did this, he constantly, in the most maudlin terms, talked how much he loves Hunter. That’s the love of an abuser and narcissist, not a healthy parental love that is based upon the desire for one’s child to thrive.

At the end of the day, what Biden did to Hunter is just so...gross, immoral, and almost evil. It’s simply another aspect of this evil that Biden pardoned Hunter for all criminal acts, including those not yet tried or even discovered. Joe obviously did so to protect himself from Trump’s Justice Department investigating how Joe sold out his country.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...x.html#ixzz8tM7t8SAn



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Biden pardoned Hunter for all criminal acts, including those not yet tried or even discovered.

Not even discovered? I wonder if that’s settled law. I’d guess that many of Hunter’s antics are currently undiscovered.



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^^ I don't think it's settled law. It's never been used (abused) like this. Everyone knows it's to cover up the family "business".

But, certainly, the several States can still go after him for non-federal crimes.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Regardless of the type of clemency at issue, the President’s power extends only to "offences against the United States," meaning federal crimes but not state or civil wrongs. One question the Supreme Court has addressed concerns the extent to which the pardon power reaches contempt of another branch’s authority; specifically, contempt of court.

https://constitution.congress....1-3-5/ALDE_00013322/



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Look at the bright side - this pardon only cover past acts. Hunter is a career criminal and those types don't just do a 180 in their early 50s. He is probably unemployable for life, with his old man out of office, no one is going to pay $500k for his finger or poop paintings or ghost-written books. He's going to have to get a real job, he won't, but he won't change his lifestyle one bit. And there's no way to continue down that path without committing more crimes, for which his pardon won't help him, and he'll likely run afoul of plenty of state laws. Unless he confines himself to DE, where the state and local gov't. will turn a blind eye, he's probably in for some big trouble in the next few years.
 
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