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Yep, Angolan politicians keep 800 Million for themselves and cronies, 100 Million gets kicked back to Democratic party and Bidens. 100 million goes to China to build the 1 Billion dollar railroad the US taxpayers are on the hook for.


Read some skuttlebutt on X that the money is to help build roads and transportation to help them get the materials mined out for EV production...

Likely 90% of it will go to the leader, some key people, and used to bribe other and pay for military goods.
 
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Yea what I just heard, for the mines, and I just heard he upped it another 600 million to 4 billion, WTF. You can not make this up.
 
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How TF are we allowing this asshole to give a BILLION taxpayer dollars to these African grifters when we have people still living in tents in NC headed into winter?? Mad


 
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What thinking person, with the most basic level of common sense, would even consider giving a billion dollars to any African country? Idiocy! Mad
No more foreign aid unless its to a proven ally.
Keep American money in America to address American problems.
Get a bus ready to take Biden to the Home!


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Does about as much good as the trillions spent on the War on Poverty. Poverty won.


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Does about as much good as the trillions spent on the War on Poverty. Poverty won.


You ever see a fat homeless person in another country?
 
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How TF are we allowing this asshole to give a BILLION taxpayer dollars to these African grifters when we have people still living in tents in NC headed into winter?? Mad


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What thinking person, with the most basic level of common sense, would even consider giving a billion dollars to any African country? Idiocy! Mad
No more foreign aid unless its to a proven ally.
Keep American money in America to address American problems.
Get a bus ready to take Biden to the Home!
Angola is just not any ordinary African country. Angola is a free market oil & gas (o&g) producer which makes them an ally to the West.

Let me lay out some little known facts about Angola:
  • the #16 oil producing country in the world
  • the #18 in proven o&g reserves
  • the largest o&g producer in Middle East or Africa who is not an OPEC (12 core members) or OPEC+ (10 members who follow production cuts) member.
  • they left OPEC in 2023 over disputes about increasing crude oil production. In other words, Angola wants to produce more o&g and removed a barrier from doing so.

    OPEC and OPEC+ control 38% of world's o&g production and hold 79% of proven reserves. They collude on o&g production to keep o&g prices high and American consumers feel the impact in gasoline prices.

    We need more countries to leave OPEC and be free to produce quota free o&g.


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    By those numbers they should have more than enough revenue to pay for any roads, rails, medical coverage and lift the people in Angola from poverty themselves, like many oil producers.
     
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    By those numbers they should have more than enough revenue to pay for any roads, rails, medical coverage and lift the people in Angola from poverty themselves, like many oil producers.
    Short sighted. The billion dollars is more than made up for by cheaper gasoline by keeping countries like Angola out of OPEC.


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    I am aware that Angola is a big non OPEC gas and oil producer. As such, they can fund their own development. The billion dollars could be better spent here in this country to develop our own energy producers and become energy independent. Which we once were. Thats how we keep gas cheap. Then the Angolans and everybody else in Africa can go on staging coups, starting civil wars and revolutions and generally killing each other as they have for untold years.
    American money for American problems!


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    ^^^
    On paper and with a simplistic view, we are more or less energy independent. However, the devil is in the details:
  • geography of where the crude oil is located vs where refineries are located and population centers (i.e. consumers) are located.
  • NIMBY/BANANA (Not In My Backyard / Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone). Regulators and courtrooms have/will keep crude oil pipelines from connecting US oilfields with key infrastructure (e.g. refineries in populated area in Northeast). Keystone pipeline is a good example of this as it was connecting Canadian Oil Sands with the crude oil trading hub of Cushing, OK.
  • The result is that we both import and export crude oil. For example, we have a Sigforumite who works aboard one of the supertankers delivering foreign oil to refineries on the East Coast in densely populated areas.

    Here is what I mean by shortsightedness:
  • Crude oil closed at $67.17 per barrel on Friday. Saudi Arabia (i.e. main producer and influencer in OPEC) has been very public about their desire for $100 per barrel oil.
  • At Friday's price, the annual crude oil import to US is $171.6 billion. However, at Saudi's crude oil target that is $255.5 billion annually.
  • The $255.5B vs $171.6B annual delta is most certainly a big American problem. OPEC is actively recruiting new oil producing countries (e.g. Guyana which is the largest discovery in the last 15 years) and would like to bring back countries like Angola.

    It's still a win if we give Angola a billion or so to help diversify their economy so $67.17 per barrel crude oil isn't so painful and they're able to resist the lure back OPEC's o&g production collusion.


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    Perspective of the Billion Dollar$ invested in Angola:

    "According to some estimates, 1.25 billion dollars' worth of chicken wings are consumed on Super Bowl Sunday"

    Feb 9th 2024:
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    Super Bowl Fans Will Spend $17.3 Billion On Party Fare, Despite Rising Food Prices


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/p...e-different-in-2024/


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    Our foreign policy of paying other nations in hope of them being friendly to us has not work out too well in the long term. In fact they have bitten us in the ass in not only in dollars but in blood of our younger generation being sent to die there. There are other foreign policy tools like trade and technological assistance than can be leverage before breaking out our tax payers' credit card which is like 33T in the red as I recall. Let's invest our money at home first.
     
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    This man currently is the President and Chief Executive of the United States of America and Commander in Chief of the United States military.



    In contrast, this man is the President-elect and incoming Chief Executive of the United States of America and Commander in Chief of the United States military.




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    Perspective of the Billion Dollar$ invested in Angola:

    "According to some estimates, 1.25 billion dollars' worth of chicken wings are consumed on Super Bowl Sunday"

    Feb 9th 2024:
    quote:
    Super Bowl Fans Will Spend $17.3 Billion On Party Fare, Despite Rising Food Prices


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/p...e-different-in-2024/


    Not really sure what that has to do with this country spending money on other nations that we don’t have.

    In the simplest terms, we are putting foreign aid on a credit card. And to make matters worse, we are paying off our credit card debts with other credit cards.



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    Kamala and her husband stand, turn, heartily applaud, and then look directly at Joe and Jill waiting for a smile, a wave, maybe even a pat on the shoulder. Instead, President and Mrs. Lame Duck make an obvious point to avoid eye contact and look the other way. Jill hilariously does a 90-degree turn so quickly you’d think Kamala had leprosy.

    There is just no question Jill intended for the world to see that epic snub.

    Then for nearly a minute, Joe and Jill acknowledge all kinds of people in the room, but never once acknowledge or even look at Kamala and Doug. At one point, Joe looks right through Kamala and Doug to wave at someone behind them. Doug nods hoping Joe will nod back. Joe responds by throwing more shade than Rosie O’Donnell after a pie bender.

    https://www.breitbart.com/poli...nter-kennedy-center/


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