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McNoob |
https://x.com/WesternLensman/s.../1863580110793969890 "We've done four already, but now we're steady..." | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
The actual charges were ones that Hunter was found guilty of by a jury and others he pled out. Joe's pardon goes back to Burisma days in 2014 where Joe insisted nothing wrong was done. Why would he need to pardon Hunter for that, unless something was really wrong? | |||
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delicately calloused |
^^^^^^^^^I don’t think one can apply logic to it. Their story is false. Lies are inconsistent, conditional and temporary. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Rules for thee but not for me (or my family) | |||
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Unflappable Enginerd |
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His Royal Hiney |
I heard someone on TV today say that Joe may not have realized what he had just done by pardoning Hunter Biden. Now, that Hunter is pardoned and can't be prosecuted for any crimes he may or may not have committed, he has no standing to plead the fifth to any questions. Fox News just contrasted Biden's pardon for his son with a 75 year old woman sent to prison for demonstrating outside an abortion clinic. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^ And I bet James Biden gets a pardon also. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Yeah, but that assumes the new DOJ has the stomach to actually go after ol' Dementia Joe. I doubt that they will... but I hope they do. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I have a question for those in the know. Has any previous presidential pardon covered the nearly 11 years for any and all unspecified and uncharged crimes? Is this still OK under Article II, sec II? ------------------ The plural of anecdote is not data. -Frank Kotsonis | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Yes, see the pardon for Nixon. He hadn't been convicted of any crime and was pardoned anyway. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
In fact, the language of the Biden Pardon follows the language of Ford's pardon of Nixon. What Biden should have said:
Had he released a statement like the above, I could have some sympathy for him, and he would have lessened the damage to himself, and our system of justice. Instead, he doubled down on lies and misdirection to cast himself and his son as the victims here. What Joe really did was protect himself from the fallout of Hunter's crimes. What utter rubbish. I hope Trump hauls any exposed part of Biden's family that he can get ahold of through the crusher. I hope he persecutes those DOJ and FBI fucks who have ruined those organizations, and I hope he cuts the Jan 6 folks free en masse. Fuck the Dems. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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| Irksome Whirling Dervish |
Yes, the president's plenary power allows this type of blanket pardon. I'm not aware of it being used like this is the past however the constitution doesn't prohibit the use. | |||
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"As any father would do"?? You need to get your head out of your ass. We're talking about the President of the United States abusing power. How can you not see this? Instead, you yammer on about daddy doing for his little boy. This is abhorrent, and I guess you'd better mark me down as a "silly person" because you're Goddamned right that I'm outraged, as all decent Americans should be. Just because this was expected, doesn't make it right, not in any way. I've cautioned you before and I'm cautioning you once again to avoid painting with such a broad brush. Y'know, it almost seems to me that your comment is an attempt to shame people into not speaking up, that this makes them angry. Instead of trying to shame people here, you ought to be standing with them. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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The full depth of the pardon is troubling, now that I’ve read it. I still don’t have a big problem with the pardon for the tax offense and the 4473. However, given Papa Joe’s own involvement in the influence peddling the true depth of this pardon is more than a bit over the top. To be honest, I expect Papa Joe to issue a full pardon for himself in the closing days of his presidency. He might just want to insulate himself while he still has some moments of lucidity. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
. Biden Discussed Pardoning Hunter In June, Told Aides He Would Lie to the Public About Pardon Plans ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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| I kneel for my God, and I stand for my flag |
That dude thinks his opinion is the only opinion. | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
By pardoning Hunter, ole Joe is pardoning himself. No one is going to want to go after an 80+ dementia patient even though the left still would do it to Trump (he is sans dementia). This way the massive payoffs to the Bidens sadly just die.  | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
When I need help, I'll give you the high sign. | |||
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What's really shocking about this is not that he did it, but that he and his handlers were so blatantly clear leading up to it that he wouldn't do it. Usually they use weasel words that make it a bit less obvious it was a bald-faced lie all along. | |||
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