“The New York Times has demanded president Joe Biden to drop out of the race for The White House.

In a scathing opinion piece, the Times' Editorial Board observed that Biden appeared to be a 'shadow' of himself and that the argument that he was the best Democratic candidate to take on Trump was no longer valid. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/13581987

An article that shows some of the changes in odds for several people to replace Biden - appears Michelle Obama is now favored.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...7129c855fb1448&ei=18

Biden is not going anywhere. Until he's defeated in November.

Kind of amazing, Biden was so ill with a cold Thursday night at the debate but well enough to campaign on Friday.

I’m on twitter and I used to get tons of leftist influencer feeds any time I hit refresh. Now they’ve all gone dark. I’m convinced after Biden’s eye opening performance in the debate that his replacement is imminent.

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An article that shows some of the changes in odds for several people to replace Biden - appears Michelle Obama is now favored.

It is interesting, and not specifically in this forum but everywhere, that people come up with these replacement candidates, all sorts of names, and NONE of these people have even indicated that they would be even slightly interested in running. In Obama's case, she has stated repeatedly she is not interested in the job or returning to the political life. Or Gavin Newsom, who also has laughed off a 2024 run, and continues to support Biden. These two people are commies and scumbags, yet they are not stupid enough to parachute into a U.S. presidential campaign in the last few months, and run against a guy like Donald Trump. If it was that easy to do, then why even announce early and spend the money to campaign for two years?

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Biden is not going anywhere. Until he's defeated in November.

This.

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Biden is not going anywhere. Until he's defeated in November.

I agree. Among other reasons, he wants to be in office so that he can pardon Hunter as the convictions roll in.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Biden is not going anywhere. Until he's defeated in November.

I agree. Among other reasons, he wants to be in office so that he can pardon Hunter as the convictions roll in.

He can pardon him anytime he wants, even before the convictions.

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He can pardon him anytime he wants, even before the convictions.

I doubt that such a pardon would be upheld by the courts. Can you cite a precedent for an effective presidential pardon of that nature?

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These two people are commies and scumbags, yet they are not stupid enough to parachute into a U.S. presidential campaign in the last few months, and run against a guy like Donald Trump.

VERY True! Things 'can' change (of course!), but IMO the only possible (likely?) scenario resulting in a different DIM candidate, is that Kamala makes a run at invoking the 25th Amendment replacing Biden as the the current pResident. That said, it seems unlikely that'll happen considering all corrupt incompetents and DEI dimwits comprising the Cabinet, especially since it's SO apparent that they Hate America, AND Hate Americans SO Much!

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He can pardon him anytime he wants, even before the convictions.

I doubt that such a pardon would be upheld by the courts.

Gerald Ford pardoned President Nixon, and he had not even been indited for a crime...Just sayin'

"Team Biden" has spent a lot of money and time to finally get the Presidency. I don't think they're leaving without a fight.

Exhibit A:


I think the only way Joe's leaving early is feet first in a pine box.

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"Team Biden Inc." has spent a lot of money and time to finally get the Presidency. I don't think they're leaving without a fight.

I think the only way Joe's leaving early is feet first in a pine box.

FIFY

It sure is entertaining to watch the dems realize the bed they made for themselves. This is what happens when info sources you trust lie to you. Your reality isn’t. The trouble with truth and true reality is they are protuberant. It’s a pesky problem when you prefer fantasy and falsehoods. How many of the population believed it when they were told Biden was secretly vigorous and the best himself ever only to have reality slap them with a white glove? Now is appears to late for an effective correction and since Trump is satan, they’re proper phukt. It’s a beautiful thing to see liars frustrated by undeniable truth.

Biden's inner circle has the most to lose and are probably the ones holding on and encouraging him.
If they can ID a viable candidate they will start negotiating a place for themselves in exchange for pushing him off the cliff.

Jill will never do that as there's only one Presidential spouse and she won't be it.

Ditto for "Border Tzar" Kamala Harris. There's no place for her at the new table since she doesn't bring any real support with her and anything but the top slit would be a step down.

Look for signs that's happening, the rats leaving the ship, and that will be a good sign they're about to make a change.

Their biggest challenge right now is finding that viable candidate. That's how they got Joe in the first place.

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He can pardon him anytime he wants, even before the convictions.

I doubt that such a pardon would be upheld by the courts. Can you cite a precedent for an effective presidential pardon of that nature?

Like already said, Nixon. But he's not the only one:

https://www.justice.gov/pardon...ntly-asked-questions

Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States?

It would be highly unusual, but there have been a few cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned, including President Gerald Ford's pardon of President Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers and President George H.W. Bush's pardon of Caspar Weinberger. President Donald J. Trump pardoned Joseph Arpaio and others after they were charged and convicted, but prior to sentencing

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Biden's inner circle has the most to lose and are probably the ones holding on and encouraging him.
If they can ID a viable candidate they will start negotiating a place for themselves in exchange for pushing him off the cliff.

Jill will never do that as there's only one Presidential spouse and she won't be it.

Ditto for "Border Tzar" Kamala Harris. There's no place for her at the new table since she doesn't bring any real support with her and anything but the top slit would be a step down.

Look for signs that's happening, the rats leaving the ship, and that will be a good sign they're about to make a change.

Their biggest challenge right now is finding that viable candidate. That's how they got Joe in the first place.

“Top slit” ….Freudian?

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Biden's inner circle has the most to lose and are probably the ones holding on and encouraging him.
If they can ID a viable candidate they will start negotiating a place for themselves in exchange for pushing him off the cliff.

Jill will never do that as there's only one Presidential spouse and she won't be it.

Jill has the ear of the chief of staff Jeff Zients and they control access to Joe. They're calling the shots and they have the personal (Steve Ricchetti, Anita Dunn, Mike Donilon, Jen O’Malley Dillon, Bruce Reed and Louisa Terrell) to effect their direction. Makes one wonder how former WHCOS Ron Klein's departure was handled and the reasons for it.

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Ditto for "Border Tzar" Kamala Harris. There's no place for her at the new table since she doesn't bring any real support with her and anything but the top slit would be a step down.

Harris has been on the sidelines for awhile, given all her gaffs and errors. If she makes moves for the nomination then she's officially on the crazy ship and has taken all the DEI-focused crazies in the party with her. All the identity politic figures will be backing Harris, the smarter ones of that bunch will be torn, as they know Harris is deeply flawed. This group has a sizable number of delegates to contend with.

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Look for signs that's happening, the rats leaving the ship, and that will be a good sign they're about to make a change.

Their biggest challenge right now is finding that viable candidate. That's how they got Joe in the first place.

The Dems are splitting into its normal factions, as the debate backfired in every possible was against Biden. The 1968 Dem convention may see a repeat of itself with open fights and Jerry Springer-level sparing amongst delegates...meanwhile the world watches.