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From Ace of Spades, who has fleshed out what I was thinking in an earlier post:

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If The FBI Is Investigating These Allegations, They Absolutely Must Investigate Ford's Credibility
Questions that must be asked of Ford, and her lawyers, and Democrats -- under oath.

1. Democratic staffers, particularly those of Diane Feinstein, must be asked under oath and under penalty of felony if they leaked Ford's name and/or her letter to friendlies in the media.

2. Ford must be asked, under oath, which therapist notes she gave to the Washington Post. She was asked this yesterday, but suffered one of her notorious memory lapses and said she didn't know and would have to ask her lawyers. Which she then proceeded to not ask them.

3. Obviously, any time she claims she doesn't know and that only her lawyers would know, her lawyers must be asked under oath.

Her lawyers, by the way, cannot invoke lawyer-client privilege regarding notes they gave to a third party. Information given to a third party is not a confidential lawyer-client communication and not shielded by privilege.

There is no such thing as "Lawyer-Feinstein privilege," and Ford's political operators with legal licenses should not be permitted to invent one.

4. Her therapist's notes must be taken up by the FBI. Literally nobody in America believes that Ford and her husband were at a marriage counselor about a disagreement about adding a second door to the house.

What were they really in therapy for? People have been known to lie in therapy if it's needed to keep themselves out of trouble from their spouse.

5. Why did she lie when she claimed she could not fly? Did her lawyers tell her to say that? The parties can invoke privilege here, but their invocation of privilege -- refusing to answer questions in an investigation they demanded -- should be noted and publicized.

6. Did her lawyers inform her that Republicans had offered to fly to California or did they hide that from her? Or did they just tell her to lie about it?

7. All correspondence between her lawyers and Diane Feinstein and other Democrats must be submitted to the FBI. We suspect coordination, and if there's going to be an investigation, we want it all investigated.

8. Her personal polygraphologist must explain how he conducted the test, how long he took to prep her, etc.

And who paid him. And whether or not a certain result was expected.

9. And a big one -- how many other people has Ford accused of sexual harassment or assault? Perhaps this is her first and only time. If so, that adds to her credibility.

But if she has a history of making claims -- that detracts from it.

As with the "Adding up the number of accusers" metric some idiots have adopted-- it's true, generally, the more independent accusers lodge charges at someone, the more likely they are to be guilty.

That's true -- outside a political contest, where accusers are not independent but may in fact be inter-dependent, united in a common political cause and sharing a common motivation to lie.

But just as in non-political circumstances multiple accusers claiming one man assaulted them tends to suggest they're making genuine allegations, one person making accusations against multiple alleged assailants tends to suggest that person is probably not a real victim, but a serial accuser.

If five women accuse a man: That man is probably guilty, absent strong evidence to the contrary.

If one woman accuses five different men for five different incidents: that woman is probably delusional or a fabulist, absent strong evidence to the contrary.

Note that the Democrats never claimed "And this is the first time Ford has ever made this type of accusation!"

Were that the case, I would imagine they would have shot that arrow from their quiver.

But the did not shoot that arrow from their quiver.

So I assume, tentatively, that that arrow is not in their quiver.

I would like to know if she made other allegations, who she reported them to, and what the final disposition was in any investigations into any prior allegations.


Question 10 to Round It Out: Commenters are saying: She should be made to recover/reveal her deleted/nuked social media accounts.

There was a reason her Political Operatives With Legal Licenses bleach bitted them. It's time to see what she's been saying for the past decade.

The Democrats demanded a full investigation -- it's time to have one.

Shock: Ford's Political Operators With Legal Licenses Demand that Investigation Have No Time Limit, So It Could, Get This, Run Past the Mid-Terms.

Who could have seen this Plot Twist coming?


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I think the vote tomorrow is to lock in some positions

https://www.sacbee.com/latest-...rticle219172735.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says all 51 Republican senators supported the motion to proceed with Kavanaugh's nomination. But it was approved by voice, without a roll call to put senators on record.

In fact, GOP senators were slowing Kavanaugh's final confirmation for at least a week. President Donald Trump agreed with their request to launch a "supplemental" FBI investigation into the allegations.

McConnell calls Kavanaugh "most qualified and most impressive" and says, "This is a nomination that deserves to move forward."

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"I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate"

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Good thing her lawyers can eat shit.
 
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Originally posted by JALLEN:

I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate.

Gee, I wonder who's getting them inside?



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Originally posted by sdy:
I think the vote tomorrow is to lock in some positions

https://www.sacbee.com/latest-...rticle219172735.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says all 51 Republican senators supported the motion to proceed with Kavanaugh's nomination. But it was approved by voice, without a roll call to put senators on record.

In fact, GOP senators were slowing Kavanaugh's final confirmation for at least a week. President Donald Trump agreed with their request to launch a "supplemental" FBI investigation into the allegations.

McConnell calls Kavanaugh "most qualified and most impressive" and says, "This is a nomination that deserves to move forward."

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"I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate"

good one


Now all they need is 51 Senators to vote on the Motion to Confirm. That’s where any one of them can name the price.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Fuck Flake. What a limp dick. And any other Republican that doesn't have the decision making skills to handle this.

Trump is correct, the Dems are laughing their asses off behind closed doors.
Everyone knows the scam they're running.
And we sit here powerless to stop it.

Roe-V-Wade and the 2nd-A drives the desperation on the Communist Left. The commies are all-in on this fight. And the first rule is: There are no rules.

The good news is this: We're still in the fight. It ain't over yet.
Hang in there, Judge Kavanaugh.
When the smoke clears, hopefully it will be Justice Kavanaugh.

Then, perhaps, we'll get the last laugh.



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This is 3D Chess and I can barely follow Chinese checkers.

I have faith that Judge Kavanaugh will be our next SCOTUS Justice, and that Amy Coney Barrett will soon follow, when, by the Grace of God, Justice Ginsberg sees the Light and retires.

And that John Roberts repents and supports Liberty and the Constitution as written for the rest of his days.


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I read this earlier and love it. Trump saw a fighter in Kavanaugh yesterday (like we all did) and he knows that's exactly what it takes to defeat the left.

My favorite part of Kavanaugh's opener was how he basically said he doesn't care what way the vote goes, he is not going to quit. That is half of their plan after all, to stop him or get him to withdraw (by their goons threatening his family, how very Stalinist of them). Also to send a warning to other potential nominees that they are not safe. Kavanaugh's response, even though his name and reputation are destroyed, his family threatened, was to stick it right in their eye. THAT took some intestinal fortutude.

 
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Originally posted by JALLEN:
I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate.


This is one thing that has puzzled me; that these feminist commie protestors have all-access backstage passes for all of this shit.

We need some counter-protestors in there to "counter" these professional goons.



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Thinking outside the box a bit.

Flake’s lunchtime flip was a bit odd...especially after the statements he made earlier in the morning. Politically, out of the “undecideds” he has the least to loose, not up for re-election and only his robust 2020 run at play. Perhaps he was muscled into this by his dem buddies, giving those that are in a pickle, a bit of political cover.

Don’t look at Maine, Alaska, or Arizona. Look at North Dakota and West Virginia. I know nothing of WV politics, but know a bit about Nodak. Those two are facing “Sophie’s Choice”.

“Justice Kavanaugh”. Get used to saying that because it’s gonna be.

Despite my differances here, good, honest, moderated political commentary can always be counted on.


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I still say the D's are afraid of the final vote. For all the media back and forth about the R's not having the votes, the D's have been pulling out all stops to prevent it. Hmmm, I wonder why?

Things change all the time in DC, but one thing is certain for both parties. People in office like to get re-elected.

The longer this goes on, the more polling for D's in vulnerable seats will show a groundswell of support for their R opponents. They are going to get leaned on big time, and some will do what is best for them above all else.
 
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Here is what the Rs get from this: cover.

The FBI investigated, and there is nothing to it. This will help with the charge of being the "He-Man Woman Haters Club" that the Dems will attempt to lay on them in November.
SO just to clarify, this seventh FBI check is somehow more valuable for cover than the other six background checks were? There's a small handful of Repub's who are absolutely disgusting, and who have 'zero' reason to be an elected official in Washington DC.

As I noted before, 'if' the Repub's keep the senate and add to their majority after November, the GOP leadership should wage jihad against Murkowski and Collins. Eliminate them from everything having to do with authority and decision making in Washington turning them into breathing door mats.


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Originally posted by JALLEN:

I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate.

Gee, I wonder who's getting them inside?



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Their constituents that voted for them? Wink

Or did you mean the rent-a-rabble and kool-aid drinkers?
 
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Originally posted by TigerDore:
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Originally posted by JALLEN:

I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate.

Gee, I wonder who's getting them inside?



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Their constituents that voted for them? Wink

Or did you mean the rent-a-rabble and kool-aid drinkers?

hahahaha!



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I still say the D's are afraid of the final vote. For all the media back and forth about the R's not having the votes, the D's have been pulling out all stops to prevent it. Why?


There are half a dozen Senate seats held by God Damned Commies up for re election in November in states Trump won by big margins. Those Senators fear having to vote no on Kavanaugh, and fear having to vote yes. Putting the confirmation off past the election relieves that pressure.

Maybe the election results in a God Damned Commie majority. If the seat is still open, they can deal for a more acceptable candidate, maybe like Merrick Garland.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Para thanks for chiming in again on that issue.
Lets think about this, an FBI investigation on this shit will be the first investigation of Dr. Ford. I believe that may well sink her credibility, if there was any.


Also, wouldn't you just love to see the FBI go through all the country club records and find out she was boozing it up at the pool before this supposed party??


A whole bunch of good stuff may come from this yet


I agree. As I said earlier, her story is full of inconsistencies, contradictions, and holes, but no one will dare question her aggressively. The FBI, with their anonymity and authority, might do so. Careful what you wish for, Democrat scum.

zin everything they have done with Kavanaugh, the Democrats have been playing to their most extreme leftist constituencies-- leftists who make a racket, call enormous attention to themselves, and, in general, cause the Democrats to way overplay their hand.

Middle class and working class America, with which the media and the Democrats are completely out of touch, is repulsed and angry by Kavanaugh's ugly mistreatment. It's good that it is all bleeding closer and closer to the midterms. The Democrats are going to get their asses whipped.


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I predict Trump soon says "STFB Dems, if Kavanaugh goes down, meet my next honey badger"

Potential nominee profile: Amy Coney Barrett


Nope. Not gonna happen. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed and Barrett is in the on deck circle.

Barrett will get the nod once it's realized that RBG has been room temperature for months now. Razz


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Originally posted by JALLEN:
I’d be happy they could keep hysterical protesters out of the Senate.


This is one thing that has puzzled me; that these feminist commie protestors have all-access backstage passes for all of this shit.

We need some counter-protestors in there to "counter" these professional goons.
No, we need Marshals with guns to bodily throw out any shouting protesters. The Senate Chambers is not a place for raucous protesting--it is a place where our Senators do their work and it must be kept quiet and calm; if the protesters want to do their thing, they can do it outside.

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Originally posted by Timdogg6:
Para thanks for chiming in again on that issue.
Lets think about this, an FBI investigation on this shit will be the first investigation of Dr. Ford. I believe that may well sink her credibility, if there was any.


Also, wouldn't you just love to see the FBI go through all the country club records and find out she was boozing it up at the pool before this supposed party??


A whole bunch of good stuff may come from this yet


I agree. As I said earlier, her story is full of inconsistencies, contradictions, and holes, but no one will dare question her aggressively. The FBI, with their anonymity and authority, might do so. Careful what you wish for, Democrat scum.

zin everything they have done with Kavanaugh, the Democrats have been playing to their most extreme leftist constituencies-- leftists who make a racket, call enormous attention to themselves, and, in general, cause the Democrats to way overplay their hand.

Middle class and working class America, with which the media and the Democrats are completely out of touch, is repulsed and angry by Kavanaugh's ugly mistreatment. It's good that it is all bleeding closer and closer to the midterms. The Democrats are going to get their asses whipped.




Really? The FBI is a private investigative firm owned by the Democrats and Soros. They’ll make up whatever they need!


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Saw one headline tonight, that Ford's GoFundMe page, which she just happened to mention in her statement, is doing well. What the hell does she need a GoFundMe page for? You know the Dems are picking up the tab for all this. At least, we now have an answer to what's in it for her. If, like most fair-minded people you are appalled by the Dems behavior, keep in mind that their goal is even more disgusting, the continued, unrestricted ability to keep killing babies in the womb.
 
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