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Calling all Virginia members. Movement to declare cities/counties in VA second amendment sanctuary cities is gaining momentum. Has your city voted? Login/Join 
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since Superbowl is tomorrow, 2 posts above I gave a link to the superbowl ad that Bloomberg will run.

Also gave a link to what really happened in that specific case.

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Virginia Senate blocks another Northam-backed gun bill

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...cks-another-gun-bill

Virginia lawmakers on Monday rejected a gun control bill proposed by Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam, as the state continues to become the battleground in the nation's gun debate.

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted against Northam's bill that would make it a felony to "recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm” in a way that endangers a minor.

“This bill will keep children safe from loaded, unsecured firearms. Like Gov. Northam’s other commonsense gun safety measures, it is something that everyone -- including responsible gun owners -- should support,” said Northam’s spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky.

The bill is one of eight the Northam has proposed for adoption, drawing the ire of gun-rights activists nationwide.

Two Democrats -- state Sens. Creigh Deeds and Chap Petersen -- joined with Republicans to defeat the measure. They cited concerns that law-abiding gun owners would be unfairly punished.

Another measure that would ban so-called assault weapons like AR-15 rifles is also in danger of falling short. Some of Northam's gun control measures have passed in the state's Democratic-controlled General Assembly and lawmakers will hash out the differences between both chambers in the coming weeks.

Some of the bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month; universal background checks on gun purchases; and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.

Guns have been at the forefront of Virginia politics following a mass shooting in Virginia Beach last year that ended with a dozen people dead.

Thousands of gun-rights activists gathered in the state capital of Richmond last month to protest a push by Democrats to enact tough gun control measures. The gathering prompted Northam to declare a state of emergency days before amid fears of potential violence.

The rally went without incident.




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1. ACTION ITEM: Gun bills to be heard in House subcommittee on Tuesday, 2/4/20 at 8:30 am!
2. ACTION ITEM: "Assault Weapon" ban bill to be heard on Friday, 2/7/20 at 8 am!
ACTION ITEM: Gun bills to be heard in House subcommittee on Tuesday, 2/4/20 at 8:30 am!

Tomorrow, Tuesday, February 4, at 8:30 am the House Firearms subcommittee is going to consider eleven gun bills. The meeting will be in the 300-A Subcommittee Room in the Pocahontas Building (temporary General Assembly Building) at 900 East Main Street in Richmond.

HB78, Kory, takes away a person’s firearms rights for a misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence. The bill allows for the restoration of the person’s firearms rights after 2 years if the person petitions the circuit court and the judge and Commonwealth Attorney agree the right should be restored. VCDL is neutral.

HB459, Sullivan, takes away a person’s right to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm if they are guilty of certain misdemeanor assault and battery convictions. The bill has a provision to petition the court for rights restoration after two years have elapsed since the conviction. Misdemeanors should never strip away a person’s civil rights. It is bad enough that misdemeanor domestic violence takes away a person's right to possess firearms. VCDL strongly OPPOSES this bill.

HB900, Levine, takes away a person’s right to purchase, possess, or transport a firearm if they are guilty of certain misdemeanor assault and battery convictions. The bill has a provision to petition the court for rights restoration after two years have elapsed since the conviction. Misdemeanors should never strip away a person’s civil rights. It is bad enough that misdemeanor domestic violence takes away a person's right to possess firearms. VCDL strongly OPPOSES this bill.

HB1288, Murphy, takes away a person’s firearms rights for a misdemeanor conviction of domestic violence. The bill allows for the restoration of the person’s firearms rights after 5 years if the person petitions the circuit court and the judge and Commonwealth Attorney agree the right should be restored. VCDL is neutral.

HB142, Davis, removes the online training option for those wishing to get a concealed handgun permit. VCDL strongly opposes this bill as written, but there is expected to be new language that might mitigate the opposition.

HB264, Lopez, removes the online training option for those wishing to get a concealed handgun permit. HB 264 is a solution to a non-existent problem and would hurt those who might be in a hurry to get their concealed carry permit due to an unanticipated and immediate threat to their life. VCDL strongly OPPOSES.

HB224, Freitas, Constitutional Carry. 16 other state have Constitutional Carry. VCDL strongly SUPPORTS.

HB600, Hope, requires family day homes to have firearms unloaded and locked up separate from any ammunition during hours of operation, making the firearms useless for self-defense or defense of the children. An unjustified restriction on law-abiding gun owners. VCDL strongly OPPOSES.

HB1409, Rush, Prohibits the General Assembly and the executive branch of government from considering the Second Amendment sanctuary status of any locality in the Commonwealth in making any appropriation decisions. VCDL strongly SUPPORTS.

HB1499, Bourne, creates a “Gun Violence Intervention and Prevention Fund” to provide money to various organizations and local government agencies for the purpose of reducing gun violence. This is just another effort to villainize and single out firearms, not reduce crime. Take the words “Gun” and “Firearms” out of the bill and make it about any illegal violence. A person killed by someone misusing a knife is just as dead as a person killed by someone misusing a firearm. VCDL strongly OPPOSES as written.

HB1689, Campbell, R.R., protects the People’s right to keep and bear arms under Article 1, Section 13 of the Virginia Constitution by invalidating any gun laws that infringe on that right. VCDL strongly SUPPORTS.


2. ACTION ITEM: "Assault Weapon" ban bill to be heard on Friday, 2/7/20 at 8 am!

On Friday morning, February 7 at 8 am, the House Public Safety committee is going to meet for the last time before cross over (when bills that passed one house, heads to the other house for consideration).

The remaining "Assault Weapon " ban bill, HB 961, will either be heard on Friday or it will be dead. We have to assume it will be heard and need a strong turnout to oppose this monstrosity:

HB 961, Delegate Levine, makes the following things illegal: carrying a loaded shotgun that holds more than 7 rounds in public; possession, sale, etc. of “assault firearms,” with a definition so broad as to catch almost all centerfire semi-automatic firearms; magazines that hold more than 10 rounds; suppressors; and “trigger activators.” A person who owns an “assault firearm” on July 1, 2020, can keep the gun if they register it. HB 961 turns law-abiding citizens who own a perfectly legal and constitutionally protected product on June 30, into a felon on July 1. The Virginia Tech massacre commission concluded that the killer having 10-round magazines would have made no difference in the outcome. The Virginia Beach Chief of Police said such a magazine limitation would have made no difference in the massacre in their Building #2. Studies have shown that for self-defense larger magazines are beneficial. It is extremely rare for a suppressor to be used in a crime, as it makes the firearm much longer than usual. The vast majority of crimes committed with suppressor deals with the unlawful possession of a homemade suppressor. There is nothing in HB 961 that would lower crime. Its sole purpose is to disarm the public. Grandfathering existing “assault firearms” owners disarms the next generation and does not make this bill more palatable. This bill is rife with unjustified restrictions and is nothing short of a full-fledged attack on law-abiding gun owners. VCDL strongly OPPOSES this bill, which has no redeeming language in it.

If you haven't seen it, here is a video of Delegate Mark Levine explaining HB 961. Do you laugh, cry, or just run into the night screaming? He has absolutely no idea what he is talking about, but this man's efforts could turn YOU into a criminal overnight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...xpQ&feature=emb_logo


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Town of Midway (northern Davidson County, NC) voted in favor of declaring the town a Second Amendment Protected town.


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Kudos to VA 2nd amendment supporters. I see the VA Senate plans to block another Gov supported anti-gun bill. A few Dems decided they didn’t want it.

I think that rally in Richmond got the attention of a few.
 
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Virginia Senate blocks another Northam-backed gun bill

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...cks-another-gun-bill

Virginia lawmakers on Monday rejected a gun control bill proposed by Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam, as the state continues to become the battleground in the nation's gun debate.

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted against Northam's bill that would make it a felony to "recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm” in a way that endangers a minor.


I attended yesterday's Judiciary Committee Hearing. One piece of testimony against SB581 was especially effective. A farmer said, "Here's something from the real world," and related to the committee how his son came home from school to find a pack of wild dogs attacking his livestock. The son retrieved a rifle and shot the dogs. Hard to visualize charging the father with a felony for that.

There were other pieces of good news. Some bad bills were continued to 2021, meaning they are dead for the year:

SB13, banning firearms on Capital Square.
SB15, carrying firearms into buildings owned or leased by the Commonwealth
SB353, onerous restrictions on outdoor ranges. I showed up to talk about this one.
SB490, banning possession following certain convictions

Some bad bills got through:

SB14, trigger activators, basically codifies the current ATF rule banning bump stocks
SB64, penalty for paramilitary activites, was modified so that there is a penalty only if brandishing occurs. So if you have a bunch of guys standing in the street with rifles, no problem. They have to do an overt act, that is, brandish their rifles, for it to be a penalty. Not a win, but definitely better than the original text!
SB71, firearms on school property, extended prohibition to private and religious schools and day cares.
SB436, voluntary do not sell firearms list. Hard to get excited about this one, since I won't volunteer!
SB684, involuntary commitment and restoration of firearms rights.

Two bills weren't heard yesterday for lack of time:

SB67, reporting lost or stolen firearms.
SB543, mandatory background checks at gun shows.

Overall, our side batted .500 yesterday. Not bad, considering the circumstances!

See https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-b...exe?201+doc+S0310203 for more information.

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Jack, THANK YOU for showing up for our side!
 
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Two bills weren't heard yesterday for lack of time, and will be heard tomorrow afternoon after the Senate adjourns. They are the last of the Senate gun bills for this year:

SB67, reporting lost or stolen firearms.
SB543, mandatory background checks at gun shows.

These could go either way.
 
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Let's go see Michael Bloomberg at his campaign stop in Norfolk this Friday!

Let's fill Nauticus with Orange! Get your GSL stickers from the crew outside!

Be vocal and be heard! Tell Bloomberg that you support the Second Amendment and you don't want him or any of his paid for cronies in the Virginia General Assembly to take away your rights.

WHERE:

Nauticus
1 Waterside Drive
Norfolk, VA 23510

WHEN:

Friday, February 7, 2020

9:45 a.m.: Doors open to public, press
10:15 a.m.: Estimated start time

https://www.wavy.com/news/loca...n-in-norfolk-friday/
 
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HB961 passed committee today. When the crowd objected the chairman ordered VSP to remove everyone from the room.




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The current proposed ban on “large-capacity firearm magazines” in Virginia (proposed section 18.2-308.10) includes an exception for magazines “permanently altered so that it cannot accept more than 12 rounds of ammunition.” Does such a thing even exist today (in other words, how easy is it to convert a 10-round mag sold in Massachusetts, for example, to the standard 15)?
 
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HB961 passed committee today. When the crowd objected the chairman ordered VSP to remove everyone from the room.

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It appeared the great majority were wearing GSL stickers. It was expected to pass committee; now let's wait and see what the full House and then the Senate do with it.
 
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The current proposed ban on “large-capacity firearm magazines” in Virginia (proposed section 18.2-308.10) includes an exception for magazines “permanently altered so that it cannot accept more than 12 rounds of ammunition.” Does such a thing even exist today (in other words, how easy is it to convert a 10-round mag sold in Massachusetts, for example, to the standard 15)?


That is not true of 961
 
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A substitute was adopted and passed out of committee today.

Link here.
 
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A substitute was adopted and passed out of committee today.

Link here.




Yeah, i have been trying to parse through it. It seems I was wrong above. So a simple plug is insufficient.


Magazines
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450 A. For purposes of this section, "large-capacity firearm magazine" means any firearm magazine,
451 belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has the capacity of, or can be readily restored or converted to
452 accept, more than 12 rounds of ammunition. "Large-capacity firearm magazine" does not include (i) a
453 magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot
454 accept more than 12 rounds of ammunition or (ii) an attached tubular device designed to accept and only
455 capable of operating with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.


Silencers/suppressors
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469 § 18.2-308.11. Import, sale, transfer, etc., of silencers; penalty.
470 A. For purposes of this section, "silencer" means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing
471 the report of a firearm, including any part or combination of parts designed or intended for use in
472 assembling or fabricating such a device.
473 B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, or purchase a silencer,
474 provided that a person may transfer a silencer in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms
475 Act (26 U.S.C. § 5801 et seq.). A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony.
476 C. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) any government officer, agent, or employee,
477 or member of the Armed Forces of the United States, to the extent that such person is otherwise authorized
478 to acquire a silencer and does so while acting within the scope of his duties; (ii) the manufacture of a
479 silencer by a firearms manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the Armed Forces of the
480 United States or to a law-enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its
481 employees, provided that the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal, state, and local laws;
or (iii) 482 the sale or transfer of a silencer to any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States or to a law-
483 enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its employees.



Trigger activators
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484 § 18.2-308.12. Import, sale, possession, etc., of trigger activators prohibited; penalty. 485 A. For purposes of this section, "trigger activator" means any device that allows a semi-automatic 486 firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of any 487 semi-automatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger rests and continues firing without 488 additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter. 489 B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or 490 transport any trigger activator. A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony.



Disposition of Magazines and Trigger activators
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491 § 18.2-308.13. Surrender, etc., of prohibited firearm magazine and trigger activator.
492 A. Except as provided in subsection B, any person who legally owns a large-capacity firearm
493 magazine, as defined in § 18.2-308.10, or trigger activator, as defined in § 18.2-308.12, on July 1, 2020,
494 may retain possession of such large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator until January 1, 2021.
495 During this time period, such person shall (i) render the large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger
496 activator permanently inoperable; (ii) remove the large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator
497 from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator to a person
498 outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing the large-capacity firearm magazine or
499 trigger activator; or (iv) surrender the large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator to a state or
500 local law-enforcement agency.
501 B. Any person who legally owns a large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator on July 1,
502 2020, and who, on January 1, 2021, (i) is serving outside of the United States in the armed services of the
503 United States, (ii) is serving outside of the United States as a member of the diplomatic service of the
504 United States appointed under the Foreign Service Act of 1946, (iii) is serving outside of the United States
505 as a civilian employee of the United States government or any agency or contractor thereof, or (iv) is a

506 spouse or dependent of any person listed in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) may retain possession of such large-
507 capacity firearm magazine or trigger activator until 30 days from the date such person is no longer serving
508 outside of the United States. During this 30-day period, such person shall comply with clause (i), (ii), (iii),
509 or (iv) of subsection A.
510 C. The provisions of § 15.2-915.5 shall not apply to any large-capacity firearm magazine or trigger
511 activator surrendered to a local law-enforcement agency pursuant to this section.


If you are found with any of the banned items while concealing them.
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512 § 19.2-386.28. Forfeiture of weapons that are concealed, possessed, transported, or carried
513 in violation of law.
514 Any firearm, stun weapon as defined by § 18.2-308.1, or any weapon, magazine, silencer, or trigger
515 activator concealed, possessed, transported, or carried in violation of § 18.2-283.1, 18.2-287.01, 18.2-
516 287.4, 18.2-308.1:2, 18.2-308.1:3, 18.2-308.1:4, 18.2-308.2, 18.2-308.2:01, 18.2-308.2:1, 18.2-308.4,
517 18.2-308.5, 18.2-308.7, or 18.2-308.8, 18.2-308.9, 18.2-308.10, 18.2-308.11, or 18.2-308.12 shall be
518 forfeited to the Commonwealth and disposed of as provided in § 19.2-386.29.
519 2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or
520 commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary
521 appropriation is ________ for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities;
522 therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing
523 Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of
524 Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation is ________ for periods of
525 commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.



Here is the dems new definition of an "Assault Firearm"

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386 § 18.2-308.9. Importation, sale, transfer, etc., of assault firearms prohibited; penalty.
387 A. For purposes of this section:
388 "Assault firearm" means:
389 1. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
390 explosion of a combustible material with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 12 rounds;
391 2. A semi-automatic center-fire rifle that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
392 explosion of a combustible material that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one of
393 the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes
394 conspicuously beneath the action of the rifle; (iii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held
395 by the non-trigger hand; (iv) a grenade launcher; (v) a flare launcher, (vi) a silencer; (vii) a flash
396 suppressor; (viii) a muzzle brake; (ix) a muzzle compensator; (x) a threaded barrel capable of accepting
397 (a) a silencer, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a muzzle brake, or (d) a muzzle compensator; or (xi) any
398 characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (x).
399 3. A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
400 explosion of a combustible material with a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 12 rounds;
401 4. A semi-automatic center-fire pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
402 explosion of a combustible material that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one of

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403 the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a second handgrip or a protruding grip
404 that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) the capacity to accept a magazine that attaches to the pistol
405 outside of the pistol grip; (iv) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel
406 and that permits the shooter to hold the pistol with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (v) a
407 manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (vi) a threaded barrel capable of
408 accepting (a) a silencer, (b) a flash suppressor, (c) a barrel extender, or (d) a forward handgrip; or (vii)
409 any characteristic of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (vi).
410 5. A shotgun with a revolving cylinder that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
411 explosion of a combustible material; or
412 6. A semi-automatic shotgun that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of
413 a combustible material that has one of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock, (ii)
414 a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the shotgun, (iii) the ability to accept a
415 detachable magazine, (iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of seven rounds; or (v) any characteristic
416 of like kind as enumerated in clauses (i) through (iv).
417 "Assault firearm" includes any part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert,
418 modify, or otherwise alter a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts that may be readily
419 assembled into an assault firearm. "Assault firearm" does not include (i) a firearm that has been rendered
420 permanently inoperable, (ii) an antique firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2, or (iii) a curio or relic as
421 defined in § 18.2-308.2:2.
422 B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, or purchase an assault
423 firearm, provided that a person may transfer an assault firearm to another person if:
424 1. The transfer is a bona fide gift made by or to a member of a transferor's immediate family as
425 defined in § 6.2-1300;
426 2. The transfer occurs by operation of law;
427 3. The person receiving the assault firearm is an executor or administrator of an estate or is a trustee
428 of a trust created by a will, and the assault firearm to be transferred is property of such estate or trust;

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429 4. The transferor is an executor or administrator of an estate or is a trustee of a trust created by a
430 will, and the assault firearm to be transferred is the property of such estate or trust;
431 5. The transfer is temporary and is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm;
432 6. The transfer is temporary and occurs within the continuous presence of the owner of the firearm;
433 7. The sale or transfer of an assault firearm is to an authorized representative of the Commonwealth
434 or any subdivision thereof as part of an authorized voluntary gun buy-back or give-back program;
435 8. The transfer is of an antique firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.2:2; or
436 9. The transfer occurs at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or other area designated for the purpose
437 of target shooting, for use during target practice, a firearms safety or training course or class, a shooting
438 competition, or any similar lawful activity.
439 C. A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony.
440 D. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) any government officer, agent, or employee,
441 or member of the Armed Forces of the United States, to the extent that such person is otherwise authorized
442 to acquire an assault firearm and does so while acting within the scope of his duties; (ii) the manufacture
443 of an assault firearm by a firearms manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the Armed Forces
444 of the United States or to a law-enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its
445 employees, provided that the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal, state, and local laws; (iii)
446 the sale or transfer of an assault firearm by a licensed dealer to any branch of the Armed Forces of the
447 United States or to a law-enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its
448 employees; (iv) the purchase by any person of his service handgun pursuant to § 59.1-148.3.


Ownership/possession under the age of 18
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361 § 18.2-308.7. Possession or transportation of certain firearms by persons under the age of 18;
362 penalty.
363 It shall be is unlawful for any person under 18 years of age to knowingly and intentionally possess
364 or transport a handgun or, assault firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.9, or shotgun with a magazine that will
365 hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered anywhere in the
366 Commonwealth. For the purposes of this section, "handgun" means any pistol or revolver or other firearm
367 originally designed, made, and intended to fire single or multiple projectiles by means of an explosion of
368 a combustible material from one or more barrels when held in one hand and "assault firearm" means any
369 (i) semi-automatic centerfire rifle or pistol which expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an
370 explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will
371 hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or
372 equipped with a folding stock or (ii) shotgun with a magazine which will hold more than seven rounds of
373 the longest ammunition for which it is chambered. A violation of this section shall be is a Class 1
374 misdemeanor.
375 This section shall not apply to:

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376 1. Any person (i) while in his home or on his property; (ii) while in the home or on the property of
377 his parent, grandparent, or legal guardian; or (iii) while on the property of another who has provided prior
378 permission, and with the prior permission of his parent or legal guardian if the person has the landowner's
379 written permission on his person while on such property;
380 2. Any person who, while accompanied by an adult, is at, or going to and from, a lawful shooting
381 range or firearms educational class, provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported;
382 3. Any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or going to and from a hunting area or preserve,
383 provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported; and
384 4. Any person while carrying out his duties in the Armed Forces of the United States or the
385 National Guard of this Commonwealth or any other state.


Removal of the Concealed Carry Permit holder provisions for certain guns, and equipment


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114 § 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty.
115 It shall be is unlawful for any person to carry a loaded (a) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol
116 that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is
117 equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or
118 designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (b) shotgun
119 with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is

120 chambered on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, or sidewalk, on any public right-of-
121 way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public in the Cities of

122 Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach or
123 in the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William.
124 The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards,
125 military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid concealed
126 handgun permit or to any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or lawful recreational shooting
127 activities at an established shooting range or shooting contest. Any person violating the provisions of this
128 section shall be is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
129 The exemptions set forth in §§ 18.2-308 and 18.2-308.016 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the
130 provisions of this section.
131 § 18.2-308.2:01. Possession or transportation of certain firearms by certain persons.
132 A. It shall be is unlawful for any person who is not a citizen of the United States or who is not a
133 person lawfully admitted for permanent residence to knowingly and intentionally possess or transport any

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134 assault firearm as defined in § 18.2-308.9 or to knowingly and intentionally carry about his person, hidden
135 from common observation, an assault firearm.
136 B. It shall be is unlawful for any person who is not a citizen of the United States and who is not
137 lawfully present in the United States to knowingly and intentionally possess or transport any firearm or to
138 knowingly and intentionally carry about his person, hidden from common observation, any firearm.
139 C. A violation of this section shall be is punishable as a Class 6 felony.
140 C. For purposes of this section, "assault firearm" means any semi-automatic center-fire rifle or
141 pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is
142 equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine which will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition
143 or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock.
 
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The substitute is still bad, but not like the original. Just a reminder for us not to get disheartened, enraged (they'll use this against us), etc. we have to keep plugging away, we're in this for the duration. I'm appalled at the striking of the provisions for Concealed Carry holders and certain magazines personally; after all, we have had enhanced security/background checks and validation by the circuit courts.
 
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The substitute is still bad, but not like the original. Just a reminder for us not to get disheartened, enraged (they'll use this against us), etc. we have to keep plugging away, we're in this for the duration. I'm appalled at the striking of the provisions for Concealed Carry holders and certain magazines personally; after all, we have had enhanced security/background checks and validation by the circuit courts.


Email and Call Daily. Let the bastards know you do not support this. Use the BCC function so it goes to each seperately. Don't just email your delegates or senators only.

Once again the emails for all the delegates and senators.
DelDAdams@house.virginia.gov
bcc: DelLAird@house.virginia.gov,
DelLAdams@house.virginia.gov,
DelAAskew@house.virginia.gov,
DelJAvoli@house.virginia.gov,
DelHAyala@house.virginia.gov,
DelLBagby@house.virginia.gov,
DelABatten@house.virginia.gov,
DelRBell@house.virginia.gov,
DelRBloxom@house.virginia.gov,
DelJBourne@house.virginia.gov,
DelEBrewer@house.virginia.gov,
DelDBulova@house.virginia.gov,
DelKByron@house.virginia.gov,
DelJCampbell@house.virginia.gov,
DelRCampbell@house.virginia.gov,
DelBCarr@house.virginia.gov,
DelJCarrollFoy@house.virginia.gov,
DelLCarter@house.virginia.gov,
DelJCole@house.virginia.gov,
DelMCole@house.virginia.gov,
DelCCollins@house.virginia.gov,
DELKConvirs-Fowler@house.virginia.gov,
DelKCox@house.virginia.gov,
DelCCoyner@house.virginia.gov,
DelGDavis@house.virginia.gov,
DelKDelaney@house.virginia.gov,
DelJEdmunds@house.virginia.gov,
DelMFariss@house.virginia.gov,
DelEFiller-Corn@house.virginia.gov,
DelBFowler@house.virginia.gov,
DelNFreitas@house.virginia.gov,
DelTGilbert@house.virginia.gov,
DelWGooditis@house.virginia.gov,
DelNGuy@house.virginia.gov,
DelEGuzman@house.virginia.gov,
DelCHayes@house.virginia.gov,
DelCHead@house.virginia.gov,
DelDHelmer@house.virginia.gov,
DelSHeretick@house.virginia.gov,
DelCHerring@house.virginia.gov,
DelKHodges@house.virginia.gov,
DelPHope@house.virginia.gov,
DelSHudson@house.virginia.gov,
DelCHurst@house.virginia.gov,
DelCJenkins@house.virginia.gov,
DelJJones@house.virginia.gov,
DelMKeam@house.virginia.gov,
DelTKilgore@house.virginia.gov,
DelBKnight@house.virginia.gov,
DelKKory@house.virginia.gov,
DelPKrizek@house.virginia.gov,
DelDLaRock@house.virginia.gov,
DelJLeftwich@house.virginia.gov,
DelMLevine@house.virginia.gov,
DelJLindsey@house.virginia.gov,
DelALopez@house.virginia.gov,
DelDMarshall@house.virginia.gov,
DelJMcGuire@house.virginia.gov,
DelJMcNamara@house.virginia.gov,
DelDMcQuinn@house.virginia.gov,
DelJMiyares@house.virginia.gov,
DelJMorefield@house.virginia.gov,
DelMMugler@house.virginia.gov,
DelMMullin@house.virginia.gov,
DelKMurphy@house.virginia.gov,
DelIOQuinn@house.virginia.gov,
DelBOrrock@house.virginia.gov,
DelKPlum@house.virginia.gov,
DelCPoindexter@house.virginia.gov,
DelMPrice@house.virginia.gov,
DelMRansone@house.virginia.gov,
DelSRasoul@house.virginia.gov,
DelDReid@house.virginia.gov,
DelRRobinson@house.virginia.gov,
DelDRoem@house.virginia.gov,
DelCRunion@house.virginia.gov,
DelNRush@house.virginia.gov,
DelISamirah@house.virginia.gov,
DelDScott@house.virginia.gov,
DelMSickles@house.virginia.gov,
DelMSimon@house.virginia.gov,
DelSSimonds@house.virginia.gov,
DelSSubramanyam@house.virginia.gov,
DelRSullivan@house.virginia.gov,
DelLTorian@house.virginia.gov,
DelKTran@house.virginia.gov,
DelRTyler@house.virginia.gov,
DELSVanValkenburg@house.virginia.gov,
DelWWalker@house.virginia.gov,
DelWWampler@house.virginia.gov,
DelJWard@house.virginia.gov,
DelLWare@house.virginia.gov,
DelVWatts@house.virginia.gov,
DelMWebert@house.virginia.gov,
DelRWillett@house.virginia.gov,
DelTWilt@house.virginia.gov,
DelTWright@house.virginia.gov,
DelSWyatt@house.virginia.gov,
district39@senate.virginia.gov,
district13@senate.virginia.gov,
district33@senate.virginia.gov,
district38@senate.virginia.gov,
district11@senate.virginia.gov,
district14@senate.virginia.gov,
district25@senate.virginia.gov,
district08@senate.virginia.gov,
district12@senate.virginia.gov,
district30@senate.virginia.gov,
district21@senate.virginia.gov,
district31@senate.virginia.gov,
district24@senate.virginia.gov,
district10@senate.virginia.gov,
district32@senate.virginia.gov,
district07@senate.virginia.gov,
district06@senate.virginia.gov,
district02@senate.virginia.gov,
district18@senate.virginia.gov,
district37@senate.virginia.gov,
district01@senate.virginia.gov,
district09@senate.virginia.gov,
district04@senate.virginia.gov,
district29@senate.virginia.gov,
district16@senate.virginia.gov,
district23@senate.virginia.gov,
district03@senate.virginia.gov,
district26@senate.virginia.gov,
district22@senate.virginia.gov,
district34@senate.virginia.gov,
district40@senate.virginia.gov,
district17@senate.virginia.gov,
district15@senate.virginia.gov,
district35@senate.virginia.gov,
district05@senate.virginia.gov,
district20@senate.virginia.gov,
district28@senate.virginia.gov,
district19@senate.virginia.gov,
district36@senate.virginia.gov,
district27@senate.virginia.gov
 
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Silencers/suppressors

469 § 18.2-308.11. Import, sale, transfer, etc., of silencers; penalty.
470 A. For purposes of this section, "silencer" means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing
471 the report of a firearm, including any part or combination of parts designed or intended for use in
472 assembling or fabricating such a device.
473 B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, or purchase a silencer,
474 provided that a person may transfer a silencer in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms
475 Act (26 U.S.C. § 5801 et seq.).
A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony.
476 C. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) any government officer, agent, or employee,
477 or member of the Armed Forces of the United States, to the extent that such person is otherwise authorized
478 to acquire a silencer and does so while acting within the scope of his duties; (ii) the manufacture of a
479 silencer by a firearms manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the Armed Forces of the
480 United States or to a law-enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its
481 employees, provided that the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal, state, and local laws;
or (iii) 482 the sale or transfer of a silencer to any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States or to a law-
483 enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its employees.

Can somebody please explain this section? Possession is OK, everything else is illegal, but transfer per NFA is legal. That has ALWAYS been the only legal way to transfer a Supressor! My head hurts reading that.... Roll Eyes


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Am I correct that this current version of bullshit is a follows:

-All detachable magazines are capped at 12 or less.

-Centerfire rifles with any “evil” feature must have a fixed magazine capacity of 12 or less rounds or is an “assault firearm”.

-Rimfire rifles can be as evil as you’d like as long as the magazine’s are 12 or less rounds.

-Shotguns with pistol grips and/or detachable magazines of any capacity are “assault firearms”. Where does this leave the Shockwave type firearms that shoot 12 and 20 gauge ammunition?

-Handguns that feed through the grip cannot accept a muzzle device or a suppressor or be deemed an “assault firearm”.

-Suppressors are ok but they can’t be used on handguns?

-No more registration requirements to keep your “assault firearms”, comply with maze of laws or surrender?

Just trying to trace a way through this.



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It seems I was wrong above. So a simple plug is insufficient.


I think you’d have to make a sealed magazine, which means no cleaning and no spring replacement. It also means (I think) that none of the mass-compliant (for example) mags will be legal in VA. Short term, there would be a lot of handguns in VA that would be rendered effectively unusable because there will be no compliant magazines available for them. Maybe that is intentional, but I doubt the General Assembly has any clue that is what it is doing.
 
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