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Calling all Virginia members. Movement to declare cities/counties in VA second amendment sanctuary cities is gaining momentum. Has your city voted? Login/Join 
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HB961 passed committee today. When the crowd objected the chairman ordered VSP to remove everyone from the room.

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Are the Virginia State Police normally at any committee meetings?
If not, those SOB's sure are scared of something....or wanting to insinuate the image of violence by citizens.


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Philip Van Cleave of VCDL put out a video yesterday explaining what happened yesterday morning and an overview of where things go from here.





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HB961 passed committee today. When the crowd objected the chairman ordered VSP to remove everyone from the room.

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Are the Virginia State Police normally at any committee meetings?
If not, those SOB's sure are scared of something....or wanting to insinuate the image of violence by citizens.

If the VSP actively supports this, then they’re no brothers of mine.




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Are the Virginia State Police normally at any committee meetings?
If not, those SOB's sure are scared of something....or wanting to insinuate the image of violence by citizens.


I doubt it. Just like I doubt Fairfax normally has at least 6 officers, most of them from SOD, at every board of supervisors meeting. That’s in addition to the buildings regular armed contract security. They’re scared and posturing trying to make everyone believe there’s a real threat at these events when they know there’s not.



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If the VSP actively supports this, then they’re no brothers of mine.


I personally know Gary Settle who is the VSP superintendent. He's a Northam appointee and generally a pos. He was caught banging the HS vice principals wife (who was the elementary schools vp) by a student and her mom.

I figured this is where the VSP were headed. They just became the enforcers of shitty laws and most will willing break their oath's to uphold the Constitution for their paycheck and benefits. I equated them to Hitler's henchmen yesterday on Facebook and I stand by that assertion. They'll claim they're just following orders Roll Eyes just like they did yesterday when they kicked everyone out of the committee meeting.

We need to think real hard about not paying our taxes this year so the idiots in Richmond are forced to reduce operations and reflect on their poor choices. If one or two of us do it, we'll just be hit with fines. If EVERYONE with a gun does it, they'll get the point!


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If the VSP actively supports this, then they’re no brothers of mine.


I personally know Gary Settle who is the VSP superintendent. He's a Northam appointee and generally a pos. He was caught banging the HS vice principals wife (who was the elementary schools vp) by a student and her mom.

I figured this is where the VSP were headed. They just became the enforcers of shitty laws and most will willing break their oath's to uphold the Constitution for their paycheck and benefits. I equated them to Hitler's henchmen yesterday on Facebook and I stand by that assertion. They'll claim they're just following orders Roll Eyes just like they did yesterday when they kicked everyone out of the committee meeting.

We need to think real hard about not paying our taxes this year so the idiots in Richmond are forced to reduce operations and reflect on their poor choices. If one or two of us do it, we'll just be hit with fines. If EVERYONE with a gun does it, they'll get the point!




upper level VSP has always been political,

years ago, when doing background checks at the Showplace, , the VSP sent Troopers to some neighborhoods during the BGC process and asked the neighbors if the buyer had any issues or should have a gun



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This fight is far from over. VCDL says there’s one dem senator saying he won’t vote for the gun ban bill that passed out of house committee. We pick off one or two more that we’re in tight races and we kill this California level stupid bill for this year at least.
 
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Those people should return with twice the numbers and flood the room, remain peaceful but tell the cops to piss off and force them to physically remove them or try. It will end up becoming an incident that can’t be ignored and people will see what kind of tyranny is going on
 
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469 § 18.2-308.11. Import, sale, transfer, etc., of silencers; penalty.
470 A. For purposes of this section, "silencer" means any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing
471 the report of a firearm, including any part or combination of parts designed or intended for use in
472 assembling or fabricating such a device.
473 B. It is unlawful for any person to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, or purchase a silencer,
474 provided that a person may transfer a silencer in accordance with the provisions of the National Firearms
475 Act (26 U.S.C. § 5801 et seq.).
A violation of this section is punishable as a Class 6 felony.
476 C. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) any government officer, agent, or employee,
477 or member of the Armed Forces of the United States, to the extent that such person is otherwise authorized
478 to acquire a silencer and does so while acting within the scope of his duties; (ii) the manufacture of a
479 silencer by a firearms manufacturer for the purpose of sale to any branch of the Armed Forces of the
480 United States or to a law-enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its
481 employees, provided that the manufacturer is properly licensed under federal, state, and local laws;
or (iii) 482 the sale or transfer of a silencer to any branch of the Armed Forces of the United States or to a law-
483 enforcement agency in the Commonwealth for use by that agency or its employees.

Can somebody please explain this section? Possession is OK, everything else is illegal, but transfer per NFA is legal. That has ALWAYS been the only legal way to transfer a Supressor! My head hurts reading that.... Roll Eyes


IANAL. The way I read this is, if this bill becomes law as written, you can keep and transport any suppressor that you legally possess at the time the law takes effect. You can transfer a suppressor that you own to a dealer for sale out of state, or to the police. It looks to me like you're SOL if a suppressor that you purchased is in NFA jail when the law takes effect.
 
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This fight is far from over. VCDL says there’s one dem senator saying he won’t vote for the gun ban bill that passed out of house committee. We pick off one or two more that we’re in tight races and we kill this California level stupid bill for this year at least.


Totally agree! Sen. Lewis wrote that he is not supporting any gun ban. Sen. Edwards said the same to my VCDL team on Lobby Day. Sen. Deeds and Sen. Peterson provided crucial crossover votes to kill SB 581 (possession by minors a felony) in committee.

I was in the back of the House Conference Room with a bunch of fellow members of Rivanna Rifle and Pistol Club. After we were booted out of the Public Safety Committee meeting, we all went up to lobby these four senators.

We just might kill this bill outright, or at the very least, strike the magazine ban.
 
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Those people should return with twice the numbers and flood the room, remain peaceful but tell the cops to piss off and force them to physically remove them or try. It will end up becoming an incident that can’t be ignored and people will see what kind of tyranny is going on


I was there Friday. I was also there on the 13th and the 20th. I have asked a whole bunch of people to go with me. Friday I had two people go with me. On the 20th, I had one go with me. On the 13th I went with a group and we had 3 car loads. I have asked numerous people in person and thru various gun club email lists to go. It is damned hard to get them to go. I have talked to people that say the only way the govt. will get their guns is to kill them. I have talked to people that are going to hide or bury their guns. I have talked to people that are going to move out of state. I have talked to people that are too busy to go. I talked to one guy that was composing a letter. All of the people that I have talked too would be negatively effected by these laws. If you could tell me how to get twice the number of people to go, I would be delighted.
 
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^^^^ Wait until they start taxing ammo and gun ownership so much that they’ll want to give them up. Democrats have talked about all of those means in the past to get our guns from us.

They are too lazy or stupid to get involved now but they’ll wish they had.


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^^^^ Wait until they start taxing ammo and gun ownership so much that they’ll want to give them up. Democrats have talked about all of those means in the past to get our guns from us.

They are too lazy or stupid to get involved now but they’ll wish they had.


FWIW, the bills that would raise taxes on guns or ammo are dead for the year.
 
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^^^ For many years I slept well, thinking the NRA and other groups had me covered in defending my rights. Increasingly, I'm seeing that perhaps it's my turn to step into the breach and help fight the good fight for those who follow. Perhaps I can't make it to tomorrow evening's photo op in Arlington with Bloomberg and local officials on what they hope is a victory lap, but I still have checks in my checkbook to help VCDL, VSSA and NRA.
 
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I am mildly encouraged right now. HB961 passed along a strict party vote, 12-9. That means the Republicans are staying strong. All it's going to take is a few Democrat legislators to look out the window and see that most of Virginia is rejecting the blatant anti-constitutional behavior exhibited by their party. A very impressive interactive map of Virginia shows that nearly the entire state has declared these actions null and void (as of 1/28/2020, 91 counties, 16 cities and 34 towns).

We need to keep the pressure on. There is hope.




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WOW! Eek Impressive map!!! GOOD! Let the Libtards and Demoshits move to the RED areas!!! God Bless Virginia!!



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I am mildly encouraged right now. HB961 passed along a strict party vote, 12-9. That means the Republicans are staying strong. All it's going to take is a few Democrat legislators to look out the window and see that most of Virginia is rejecting the blatant anti-constitutional behavior exhibited by their party. A very impressive interactive map of Virginia shows that nearly the entire state has declared these actions null and void (as of 1/28/2020, 91 counties, 16 cities and 34 towns).

We need to keep the pressure on. There is hope.


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Those people should return with twice the numbers and flood the room, remain peaceful but tell the cops to piss off and force them to physically remove them or try. It will end up becoming an incident that can’t be ignored and people will see what kind of tyranny is going on


I was there Friday. I was also there on the 13th and the 20th. I have asked a whole bunch of people to go with me. Friday I had two people go with me. On the 20th, I had one go with me. On the 13th I went with a group and we had 3 car loads. I have asked numerous people in person and thru various gun club email lists to go. It is damned hard to get them to go. I have talked to people that say the only way the govt. will get their guns is to kill them. I have talked to people that are going to hide or bury their guns. I have talked to people that are going to move out of state. I have talked to people that are too busy to go. I talked to one guy that was composing a letter. All of the people that I have talked too would be negatively effected by these laws. If you could tell me how to get twice the number of people to go, I would be delighted.



Unfortunately you’re right.. a lot of people don’t want to step out of their comfort zone, and will bitch up a storm when things turn for the worse later.
 
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If I'm not missing something,those were not Va. State Police. I think they were capitol police. I used to work there.
 
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