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It may be intended to sway the election this fall and have nothing to do with the Court, for exactly that reason.


The court decision was to be released before the midterms anyway. Has nothing to do with the election.


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Take them off the DC cocktail circuit invite list.


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The justices know the very strong feelings on both sides of the issue. They know the personal consequences of their decision.
 
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It may be intended to sway the election this fall and have nothing to do with the Court, for exactly that reason.


The court decision was to be released before the midterms anyway. Has nothing to do with the election.
One "could" argue that we're still far enough away from the election that legislation could "still" be pushed through. I'm not the one that believes that, but it's all over the media. ......Closes twatter browser tab... Wink


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One thing that’s always intrigued me about this issue is that Congress could never pass a federal law protecting abortion - the political will isn’t there and even if it was it’s doubtful they have the power. In light of that, why do some people think it’s a good idea for nine unelected lawyers do the same thing with the stroke of a pen?

Roe and Casey clear examples of the Court writing a Constitution rather than interpreting one, and it’s about time they got back to doing lawyers’ work rather than politicians’ work.
 
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It may be intended to sway the election this fall and have nothing to do with the Court, for exactly that reason.


The court decision was to be released before the midterms anyway. Has nothing to do with the election.


Maybe. There’s a lot of money to be raised between now and then.
 
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The left is in complete Berserker mode… They’ve no idea what they’re doing IMO. Nothing more than Saul Alinsky (obummer) tactics.

Just look at our current status. People telling you every day not to believe you’re damn lying eyes.

They are losing the narrative and know that they can only control same via totalitarianism, censorship/propaganda and continued crisis.





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The left are children. They believe if they pout and scream and threaten enough,they'll get their way. That's why some loser leaked this Supreme Court draft. They live in this childish world.

And case in point, barricades have already been put up around the Supreme Court building after this leak was announced.



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Barricades for the progressive and loving left? I don't understand why that could be needed?



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The left are children. They believe if they pout and scream and threaten enough,they'll get their way.
They also believe men can get pregnant, math is racist and that Joe Biden is a competent leader.

I defy anyone here to offer up a realistic scenario in which the leakage of their impending decision influences in any way the ultimate action of the SCOTUS on this issue.


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More leftists self-immolations…





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The folks who protest in front of the SCOTUS bldg. always make me scratch my head. Do they think the justices are staring out the window, wondering how they can appease the protestors? I guess the protestors in Lafayette Park got to LBJ once in a while, but I really doubt it works that way with the SCOTUS. Some of those guys are wobbly, no matter what. I can't see them changing a decision based on who screams the loudest outside the bldg.
 
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The folks who protest in front of the SCOTUS bldg. always make me scratch my head.


Like most protests in this country it is to attract attention to themselves.




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Swift and decisive action must be taken to find out who leaked this. All the while let it be known all staffers will be fired if an investigation doesn't yield results. This can not stand.


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The left is in complete Berserker mode…

Wait until tomorrow when the screams of, "BACK ALLEY ABORTIONS!!!" and "COAT HANGERS AND BOTTLES OF PEPSI!!!" start. It's going to be an epic leftist meltdown.


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Perhaps will get to hear them speaking in tongues and get to see them chewing off their own limbs.
 
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Jonathan Turley:

The alleged leak of the opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization is nothing short of breathtaking. It would constitute one of the greatest breaches of security in the history of the Court.

.The article represents the greatest crisis that Chief Justice John Roberts has faced in his tenure on the Court. It is a breach of the most fundamental obligations and traditions of the Court.

.If this is a true copy of the draft opinion it is hard not to view this as a malicious act. What is the motivation of releasing such a decision? The only intent of such a leak is to trigger a response from outside of the Court.

.This draft is from February and the majority can shift on such opinions. However, the act of leaking such a draft opinion ranks as an original sin for judicial ethics.

.The most likely motivation is obviously to pressure the Court and push the legislation in Congress on a federal abortion law before the midterm elections. It will also likely renew the call for court packing.

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My opinion : John Roberts is not a strong chief justice. He worries foremost about the "image" of the SC (and his own image). He does not support having the SC make historically impactful decisions on things where there are strong factions on both sides of the argument. He wants to punt.
 
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Swift and decisive action must be taken to find out who leaked this. All the while let it be known all staffers will be fired if an investigation doesn't yield results. This can not stand.


What if a justice is involved in the leak?
 
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Swift and decisive action must be taken to find out who leaked this. All the while let it be known all staffers will be fired if an investigation doesn't yield results. This can not stand.


What if a justice is involved in the leak?


I would assume they'd be immediately impeached.



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If the leaked material is indeed what it's claimed to be, the court staff and whoever else they use to protect to theirs works in progress will need to jump on this.

Onto the bigger question of whether they vote to overturn Roe, I've long advocated that it was incorrectly decided and it should have always been up to the states to decide what is permissible in terms of other societal issues.

Roe was no more constitutional than if the SCOTUS were to say there's a newly inferred constitutional right to euthanasia and the states were powerless to disagree through legislation.

At most overturning Roe will take the issue back - from which it came - to the states to let them decide whether abortion is allowed and on what terms. This is a state issue and up to the legislatures of each state to decide the issue through legislation. It's a political issue as it always has been and the court erroneously stepped into the political fray decades ago by finding the inferred right.

In a number of states overturning Roe doesn't matter because laws are already on the books protecting or giving the right to abortion.

The biggest problem with overturning it will be that there are generation of people who were raised to believe the Roe was the only law of the land and it can't be any other way. Laws change and are in flux and a bad law doesn't deserve to continue to live in if it's poorly decided.

There will be wailing, crying and protests but in the end the right to an abortion will be determined by the states.
 
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