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Your "In other words" interpretation is what was close. "In other words, states have all powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution." Where People maintain ALL rights, where a power has not been granted to the States or the Fed. | |||
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https://www.reuters.com/legal/...erkships-2021-07-02/ The four clerks set to join the chambers of Justice Sonia Sotomayor are Whitney Brown, Amit Jain, Katherine Munyan and Kelley Schiffman. Justice Elena Kagan's clerks were identified as Jennifer Fischell, Alexandra Lim, Christine Smith and Andrew Waks. Clerks can command upwards of $400,000 as signing bonuses at major U.S. law firms after their stint ends at the court. | |||
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^^^Sooo, 'persons of interest'...  ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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You guys are conflating rights and powers. The tenth amendment clarifies that the residual powers not granted to the federal government or prohibited to the states, belong to the states or the people. It’s there to head off any argument that the powers enumerated in the constitution are an exhaustive list. The ninth amendment says basically the same thing, but about rights - just because they aren’t listed in the constitution doesn’t mean they don’t exist. So the ninth amendment allows for the possibility that there is a right to abortion, but it’s just not in the constitution. If there is, and Congress wants to regulate it, the tenth amendment says it has to find the power to do so in the constitution. If it’s not there, it belongs to the states or the people. The ninth amendment throws a lot of people for a loop because they believe the constitution must protect all of our rights, and if the SCOTUS says it doesn’t then the right ceases to exist. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
If Roberts had any balls or an ounce of integrity at this point, he'd immediately side with the majority and release the court's opinion TODAY. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Roberts found that Obamacare was a tax. (Even though Obamacare came of the senate, not out of the house where all tax legislation must originate) "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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| Dances With Tornados |
Oklahoma Governor just signed our anti abortion law. This was not a last minute thing, it’s been working through for a while now. LINK . | |||
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He (and every other Justice) should do exactly what they were going to do before the leak, on whatever timetable they were going to do it. Other than crucify the leaker, of course.This message has been edited. Last edited by: DaveL, | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Imagine being on the same side as that lunatic. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
So after the law passes and a pregnant woman sues the state, then the case goes to the SCOTUS and SCOTUS sides with the state, that is overturning R v W. Somebody else here might be able to explain it differently however; there are three parts to a case decided by SCOTUS. 1. The decision, either for or against the defendant. 2. Opinion(s) of justice(s) siding with the majority and why he/she sided with the majority. 3. Opinion(s) of descenting (sp?) justices and why they don’t agree with the majority. Case before the court is Mississippi’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks. If the majority of justices side with the state and If the opinion of one, or more, justices indicates flaws in R v W for the basis of their decision, this opens the door for a state (or states) to ban abortion thinking/hoping/knowing the majority of justices sitting on the bench in two years will side with the ban and do, that is when R v W is overturned. Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Speaking of Elaine, that reminded me of this clip... "You know, some day we're going to get enough people on the Supreme Court to change that law." It just proves again my theory, that everything in life can relate back to a Seinfeld episode. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Or at least one South Park episode. I think they had a couple on abortion. ------------------------------------------------ "It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell | |||
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They don't have an opinion, yet. They have a draft opinion. I do swear, some of y'all are being just as wacky about this whole thing as the loony left  Keep calm. Don't panic. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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A Grateful American |
 Red Meat "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yeah no shit. You seriously think I don't know it's just a draft opinion right now? You don't comprehend hyperbole? Look at the timestamp of my post. I clearly didn't expect an opinion out today or even tomorrow. On page 7 I said "as soon as possible," and I stand by that. The court should release the opinion sooner now rather than later. And as wacky as the left after this leak? Why don't you clarify that because that's straight up nonsense. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Imagination and focus become reality |
Yes, a draft opinion that is almost three months old. You would think that by now they would have refined their opinions to be pretty much final. The last day of the term is tomorrow. This particular decision should be finalized soon. I would think that by the day after tomorrow they would be able to announce the final opinion. That would save a lot of crap that would otherwise be filling the air waves for the next several months. Announce on Thursday and in two months almost no one will be talking about it or at least the discussion will be more muted. | |||
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Aside from my absolute contempt and disdain for the leak undermining the foundation of the Highest Court, the decision will be what it is. Some of us will be pleased others will be enraged, some may not even care. However it will be a decision with no further immediate appeal. One side can try to change the makeup or pack the court, the other may tighten controls at the state or win majorities in the election. Arguing, belittling and fighting amongst ourselves is a waste of time. The decision will be released and the cards will fall, what side an individual chooses, that’s up to the individual. Hopefully despite what side we fall on, we all remember we’re Americans and we can debate the issue and seek changes through our elected officials. Despite how things seem we’re still the greatest nation on earth. | |||
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| Dances With Tornados |
FWIW: It's my understanding that the new Oklahoma law is modeled closely, if not pretty much identical, to the one Texas recently passed, which seems to be holding up at this time. . | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
I don't do beer, but I have to clean my screen to get the coffee off from it!!!  Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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