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Lifted this from the opening line of one of the articles, the copy just writes itself Big Grin

“Transgender University of Pennsylvania swimmer Lia Thomas was crushed in the 100-meter breaststroke, ……”


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I would love to see him line up to start a race with all the ladies, and when the gun sounds and he dives in, all the ladies just stand there. Maybe they could all tie for 2nd place.
 
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World swimming's governing body bans transgender athletes who went through male puberty including Lia Thomas from taking part in female races and says it will set up a separate 'open category' link




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This burning of our flag is just cause for righteous American loving countrymen to beat the stuffings out of said flag burners.
 
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World swimming's governing body bans transgender athletes who went through male puberty including Lia Thomas from taking part in female races and says it will set up a separate 'open category' link
What a complete and total crock of crap in terms of how FINA tried to split the baby on this one. Transitioned genders before age 12? Really? How about if you have an XY chromosome you can't compete in female sports. Simple, realistic, and correlates with science. Also tends to check the ethical box. But I guess that was too complicated for this organization. Roll Eyes


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Transgender athlete

That’s almost an oxymoron
 
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So, they're not going to allow trans athletes, who've transitioned after a certain age to compete HOWEVER, they're going to create a whole new 'category'? Who's watching or, showing up?

- Women > to Men
- Men > to Women

....and, how many of these trans competitors are really 'world class' or, is it just an excuse for 'them' to continue playing this sport on a global level?
 
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Interesting how there doesn't seem to be a lot of XXs trying to compete in men's sports.





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That’s easy. None of them.
 
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... HOWEVER, they're going to create a whole new 'category'? Who's watching or, showing up?


I'll make a prediction, based on discussions I've had with others recently (and based on pro-level assumptions, rather than NCAA-type events): the answer to your question will be "relatively few." What will follow is that the members of the new categories will complain that they're not paid/compensated/paid-attention-to as well as members of the [predominant] existing categories. (WNBA, anyone?)

The economic reality is that events in the new categories simply won't get the viewership (read: attention) that the mainstream categories get, and thus will bring in fewer advertising dollars. Bring in less money --> pay participants less. Lower-paid participants complain --> protests. Protests --> shouting: "we have to pay these people more!" and attempts to pull (force/guilt/extort) dollars from other sources -- sources who likely don't care the first bit about the program/event to begin with.

It'll be a goat-rope.

But that's just my uneducated opinion and hypothesis.... Wink




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....and, how many of these trans competitors are really 'world class' or, is it just an excuse for 'them' to continue playing this sport on a global level?


I looked at his times on the Meet Mobile app and the 22 yo swimmer in this thread is not competitive as a male at the college level. His times are competitive with college females, but not at the national level let alone international.

Nobody really watches swim to begin with, so the pool of people wanting to watch transgender swimmers is really shallow.
 
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World swimming's governing body bans transgender athletes who went through male puberty including Lia Thomas from taking part in female races and says it will set up a separate 'open category' link
They already have that division, it's called the mens division and anyone can compete in it.
 
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When I was in 5th grade, I used to creep out of bed and watch Monty Python on PBS holding onto the volume in case it suddenly got too loud.

When I first saw this sketch, I never imagined how far this crap could and would go. Or that it might ever have a real basis in actual society.

 
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I remember way back in the mid-'70s when Renee Richards petitioned the USTA to be allowed to play in the US Open in the women's division.

During the controversy, Johnny Carson said in one of his opening monologues:

"It looks like they've created a new category for Dr. Renee Richards for the US Open---"mixed singles."

The audience roared with laughter. Today, Carson would have been banned from television for life.
 
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Yup...he would be. And if memory serves, Renee Richards SUCKED as a tennis player. Seems previously having swung a twig and berries wasn't enough to keep from getting his ass kicked by the women of the WTA.

It's a Peter Griffin moment....grinds my gears!!!



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... HOWEVER, they're going to create a whole new 'category'? Who's watching or, showing up?


I'll make a prediction, based on discussions I've had with others recently (and based on pro-level assumptions, rather than NCAA-type events): the answer to your question will be "relatively few." What will follow is that the members of the new categories will complain that they're not paid/compensated/paid-attention-to as well as members of the [predominant] existing categories. (WNBA, anyone?)

The economic reality is that events in the new categories simply won't get the viewership (read: attention) that the mainstream categories get, and thus will bring in fewer advertising dollars. Bring in less money --> pay participants less. Lower-paid participants complain --> protests. Protests --> shouting: "we have to pay these people more!" and attempts to pull (force/guilt/extort) dollars from other sources -- sources who likely don't care the first bit about the program/event to begin with.

It'll be a goat-rope.

But that's just my uneducated opinion and hypothesis.... Wink


Not to mentioned colleges/universities will be required to fund these club or teams in the name of equity. Can you imagine the cost and oversight for the occasional trans athlete?


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