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A Grateful American |
Yep. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Ammoholic |
I got through a few sentences, decided against madman ramblings. So what's his motivation simply his mom got denied a claim? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I saw some pics he posted of himself. Roid Rage? | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
If you don't want to read it (it's not that long) Rey HRH summed it up:
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Grey Swans Are Circling The lifestyle of a stable New Gilded Age is out of stock. Charles Hugh Smith Dec 09, 2024 History is either "one damned thing after another"--a chaotic collection of random events--or there are connections between events that are not readily visible. The study of history includes both rooting around for more factual evidence to aid our understanding, and interpreting what is known--both the factual evidence and what people living at that time described and thought was happening. Two recent events invite interpretation: the sudden collapse of Syria's regime and the assassination of an American CEO in America's financial capital. These can be viewed as unique one-off events of little future import or they can be viewed as watershed events, harbingers of a future far different than the present. A systemic case can be made that the grey swans circling above us are harbingers of transformative change. What is a grey swan? A grey swan is an event that is known and possible to happen, but which is assumed to be unlikely to occur. The term derives from Nassim Taleb's black swan theory, which describes an event that is unlikely but unknown. The explanation machine is already spewing out reams of reasons why Syria's dynasty collapsed practically overnight after enduring for decades in a tumultuous region riven by war and conflict. What's strikingly difficult to explain neatly and coherently is how everything is forever until it is no more. Are there causal factors that are common to all such sudden collapses of regimes that appeared to be if not forever, then demonstrably durable? This raises interesting questions. If we identify the causal factors of sudden collapse, are they discernable in other nations that appear stable at the moment? Could some of these factors act like viruses, and spread to neighboring countries, or via the Internet, to distant lands that share similar profiles? Could such a collapse act as a domino falling, providing the impetus to other fragile states collapsing? (more...) https://charleshughsmith.subst...y-swans-are-circling "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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That is incorrect. Mental issues show up throughout life. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Psychedelic drugs.  ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Freethinker |
Since we’re speculating, a thought that comes to my mind is whether the killer had ideas of becoming a Ted Kaczynski-type avenger who could change corporate America by hunting down its CEOs. One obvious difference, though, was of course his screw-up in allowing himself to be so easily recognized. Kaczynski might never have been caught if his brother and sister-in-law hadn’t recognized the author of the “manifesto” published by the media. Even without revealing his face for the one camera, this guy would have probably been tracked down if he’d continued killing people. I’m also wondering what the circumstances of the killer’s identification and arrest were, and specifically what the justification was for the search that recovered the gun and suppressor. If an arrest was justified the subsequent search would have been justified as well, but …. It will be interesting to see what defenses are raised at trial. ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
 "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Capital punishment was outlawed in NY years ago. Q | |||
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Member |
Isn't that silencer with no tax stamp good for 10 yrs in Club Fed? | |||
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| Oriental Redneck |
^^^ When you embarked on a mission to murder someone, I suspect that would be the least of your worries. Q | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
Community Note re: the 'Manifesto'... "This substack account and article appear to have been created two hours after the arrest of the shooter. Therefore, it is highly unlikely this manifesto is really written by him." https://twitter.com/quantian1/.../1866306145977090549 His arrest could've triggered the 'pre-arranged' posting of the Manifesto...Or maybe not ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I get the impression that he gave the officers a fake name and ID. That’s a crime, right? I’m guessing, but it seems that an officer’s first step would be to verify the name and ID. What happens when that comes back false? | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
It looks like the family is very wealthy and ….their money comes from owning a series of health care facilities along with a country club etc. Luigi is a 10% owner in the family empire… https://x.com/Dialectiks/status/1866299066470289777 ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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Assault Accountant |
If a fry cook at McDonalds recognizes this guy, who they have never met, from the published photos-doesn’t it beg the question what did Mangione’s family know and when did they know it? __________________ Member NRA Member NYSRPA | |||
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| Freethinker |
From what I’ve seen about the charging thus far, I believe you’re correct, and that could have led to a valid arrest and all the rest. As another point, though, there are many people, especially on the Right, who believe that he would have had no obligation to comply with the officer’s request for ID and even to pull down his mask to show his face. Once someone does voluntarily comply with a request that pretty much eliminates any defense that he might have had if they’d compelled compliance, but now I wonder how many people will be saying, “See: Never talk to the police and never do what they just ask.” I am not sure about some of this, but there are things I will be interested in following in the future. I’ve evidently been right with some of my thoughts and speculation about this case thus far, so I’m wondering if my string will continue.  ► 6.4/93.6 | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
That was very interesting. The country club is Turf Valley, in Howard County. My wife grew up very near there. That's where we had our wedding reception when it was new. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione couldn’t be located by his family earlier this year, reports say. On Nov. 18, his mother Kathleen reported him missing to the San Francisco Police Department, a police source told The San Francisco Standard. The San Francisco Police Department did not immediately respond Tuesday morning to a request for comment by Fox News Digital. Aaron Cranston, who was one of Mangione’s former classmates at the private Gilman School in Baltimore, also told The New York Times that he and his colleagues received a message earlier this year stating that Mangione’s family hadn’t been able to get in touch with him for several months following a back surgery. At the time, Mangione’s family was trying to track him down, the newspaper added, citing Cranston. https://www.foxnews.com/live-n...e-updates-12-10-2024 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| I started with nothing, and still have most of it  |
That's pretty straightforward: they have a legal right to ask for an ID, and he produced an obviously fake one, so he was arrested for that. "While not every Democrat is a horse thief, every horse thief is a Democrat." HORACE GREELEY | |||
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