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ANDIJUSTKNOWTHATTHISISSOMEHOWTIEDTOTHOSEDRONES!

Can't you see it????

I don't see it...
But I'm curious about the drones.



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Originally posted by chellim1:...
But I'm curious about the drones.


The drones are either...

A. The .military testing things.

B. Some miscreants and their shenanigans playing the fools that live to be played.


As someone else proffered, have some folks send their own private drones into the scene and see if their toys get yeeted or not.

If they spontaneously rapid disassemble, then A.

If they just buzz around the hive like a Kang Bee, buzzin' all night long, then B. Bee. Buzz a while...

Some stangin' goin' on...




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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
Sadly, even back then there were women going all giggly over his looks.


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'Free Luigi': Internet swoons over 'sexy' murder suspect as fascination with him grows


In an outpouring of support, the internet has seemingly developed a fixation with a 26-year-old man who is suspected of gunning down the UnitedHealthcare CEO.

https://www.ktul.com/news/offb...g-bullets-manifesto#

And McDonalds is being vilified.

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'Rats everywhere': Backlash hits McDonald's after arrest of CEO shooting suspect


Now, people are apparently rallying behind Mangione. Several left nasty reviewsfor at least a few Pennsylvania-area McDonald's in the wake of his arrest.

"They got rats behind the counter. DO NOT RECOMMEND," one person wrote in a review.

https://www.ktul.com/news/offb...ment-luigi-mangione#
 
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'Free Luigi': Internet swoons over 'sexy' murder suspect as fascination with him grows

There have always been women like this. Every infamous criminal attracts them.

But Luigi will spend the next 50+ years in prison. His boyish good looks and charm will fade.

Luigi Mangione's "manifesto", linked here yesterday and read by several of us, was a fake.

I think this one is probably real:

Luigi Mangione's "manifesto"

It's one long paragraph; many media outlets have seen it but none have published it
Alex Berenson
Dec 10, 2024

When police took Luigi Mangione into custody in Pennsylvania on Monday, they found a handwritten, single-paragraph note in his backpack.

Ken Klippenstein, an independent, left-leaning journalist, first published it completely a few hours ago. Klippenstein’s accuracy has not been questioned.

I disagree with Klippenstein on plenty of issues, but he is correct that news organizations have no reason or right to keep Mangione’s words to themselves. Mangione’s alleged assassination of Brian Thompson in Manhattan last week - and the response it has generated - are matters of clear public interest. Notably, Mangione claims he carried out the attack alone and says plotting it was not difficult.

I am following Klippenstein’s lead and making the note available.



The note:

To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD1, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [unreadable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [unreadable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore)2, decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.

1. Computer-aided design.
2. An apparent reference to the book “An American Sickness: How Healthcare Became Big Business and How You Can Take It Back” by Dr. Elisabeth Rosenthal, and the documentary “Sicko” by the filmmaker Michael Moore.

https://alexberenson.substack....rue&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I thought it was an elderly customer that reported it. Why is everyone saying a McDonald's employee?

I wish that retired cop that bet his pension it was the welrod responded to me. lol



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I thought it was an elderly customer that reported it. Why is everyone saying a McDonald's employee?

I've read both as well. The elderly customer may have reported it to the employee who called it in? Something like that, the two seem to have worked together to call it in.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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^^ Don't forget, 'journalism' was involved here, which is all too commonly, neither accurate nor well written!


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Most of the BS media sites (that we claim to not trust until we do) are reporting that it was a McDonald’s employee that called the police, and that’s probably correct as far as it goes. A few reports, however, expand on that and say that it was a customer who first spotted the killer and then mentioned it to an employee who then called the police. If we want the full story about anything it’s necessary to listen to more than a 30-second clip or two.




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An now back to "The note" posted above

A couple of points:

1. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone.
He says no conspiracy.

2. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [unreadable] largest company in the US ...

In his mind he's drawing attention to a problem.

3. many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.

This is BS. Many have fought the healthcare system with bravery and honesty, especially standing up to the Covid mandates, at great professional risk. Some were stripped of their jobs and livelihood by medical boards. They did so honestly, but non-violently.

Many of us may agree that the healthcare system is a problem yet this man is no hero in the way he chose to draw attention. However, this "I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty" seems to make this guy an instant hero in the leftist, marxist universe. They want violence.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Remember Solyndra?

That "green energy" company received a loan from the federal government for $540 million. Within seven years, the company went belly up.

However, the CEO was paid half a million a year. And before the company went completely out of business, the CEO threw lavish bonuses everywhere.

The same story applies to many more green energy companies. The wasted money has been astronomical. Pocket stuffing salaries and bonuses have been shameful.

Suppose an irate person on the Right, filled with anger, shot and killed one of the current "sustainability" CEOs?

What do you suppose the loonies on the Left-- so joyful that Mangione killed Thompson-- would be saying about that?

Good for the goose, good for the gander, no?


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I'd like to add that he is a coward. He shot his victim in the back. He did not have the guts to face the man he intended to kill.


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Originally posted by chellim1:
Luigi Mangione's "manifesto", linked here yesterday and read by several of us, was a fake.


Which is a surprise to exactly nobody that's ever dealt with the news media as well as social media during a high profile criminal investigation. Fake news abounds, and as long as it's juicy enough to get clicks/shares/views it continues to snowball unabated. Roll Eyes
 
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Luigi Mangione's Fingerprints Match Prints Found At Scene, Police Say

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...howing-client-guilty

Two law enforcement officials told CNN that fingerprints found at the scene of the assassination of the UnitedHealthcare CEO outside a Midtown Manhattan Hilton hotel last week match those of 26-year-old Ivy League graduate Luigi Mangione.

"This marks the first positive forensic match tying Mangione directly to the scene where Brian Thompson was gunned down just over a week ago outside a Midtown Manhattan hotel."

This new development comes as suspected killer Mangione fights extradition to New York City. He is currently held at the State Correctional Institution—Huntingdon, Pennsylvania—until proper paperwork by NY is filed.

Mangione's extradition challenge has kicked off the process requiring a warrant issued by the New York governor's office to allow him to be transported to the state, where he would then be arraigned at the criminal courthouse in lower Manhattan.

Mangione's lawyer, Thomas Dickey, told CNN earlier: "I haven't seen any evidence that they have the right guy."

More at link


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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
It is amazing that you can diagnose schizophrenia without an exam. Even Freud could not do that. Spend time in a courtroom and count the snarling defendants.

But he seems to be "Out Where the Buses Don't Run."
 
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Mangione's lawyer, Thomas Dickey, told CNN earlier: "I haven't seen any evidence that they have the right guy."

Of course...

Dickey said Mangione plans to plead not guilty and urged people to remember that in the American justice system, defendants are innocent until proven guilty.

“The burden is always on the government, thank God, and that’s their burden, and they’re going to have to produce some evidence, and we’re anxious to see it,” said the lawyer, who announced during the hearing that he was fighting government attempts to extradite Mangione to face charges.

The challenge prolongs what can be a relatively quick process when defendants waive their right to fight extradition. The U.S. Constitution’s Extradition Clause provides that, upon the demand of the governor of the state from which a fugitive fled, the fugitive be delivered to that state.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said in a statement that she was grateful for law enforcement arresting Mangione. She said that she would be signing a governor’s warrant “to ensure this individual is tried and held accountable.”

The judge in the hearing gave Mangione 14 days to file a petition formally challenging the extradition. The judge gave prosecutors 30 days to obtain the New York governor’s warrant.

“We’re going to do what’s necessary to get the governor’s warrant and we’re working with the New York City Police Department and the Manhattan DA’s office and we’re going to get the defendant out there so they can prosecute him on their charges,” Blair County District Attorney Pete Weeks told reporters in a briefing after the hearing.

“So, waiving accelerates that process. Contesting it just provides more hoops for law enforcement and prosecutors to jump through but we’re happy to do that.”

Mangione was arrested at a McDonald’s in Altoona after a customer alerted police. Officers found Mangione with multiple fake IDs, a firearm, and a silencer, according to police.

Mangione suffered a back injury, according to friends and others, and underwent back surgery. Joseph Kenney, an NYPD official, said on Fox News that some of the writings that police allegedly found on the defendant were “discussing the difficulty of sustaining that injury.” Police were still looking into a possible nexus with insurance.

Dickey, Mangione’s lawyer, declined to talk about his client’s injury.

Mangione on his way into the hearing shouted, “It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the American people and their lived experience.”

“He seems outspoken,” Dickey said. As a defendant, it’s natural to experience a range of emotions, the lawyer said. Dickey said he wants to do all of the talking moving forward. “Hopefully there won’t be any more of that,” he said, regarding the shouting.

Dickey has met with his client. When asked by reporters about his first impressions of his client, Dickey said, “I wasn’t looking for impressions. What I was trying to do was form a bond with my client, I want him to trust me, and I want him to be confident that I’m here for him, and I feel that I’m very pleased with how that went.”

The lawyer said he was hired. He would not say who hired him.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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He would not say who hired him.
Mommy and daddy?


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I don't give a damn about his back injury, not sure why that is worthy of ANY media coverage.


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Originally posted by justjoe:
Remember Solyndra?

That "green energy" company received a loan from the federal government for $540 million. Within seven years, the company went belly up.

However, the CEO was paid half a million a year. And before the company went completely out of business, the CEO threw lavish bonuses everywhere.

The same story applies to many more green energy companies. The wasted money has been astronomical. Pocket stuffing salaries and bonuses have been shameful.

Suppose an irate person on the Right, filled with anger, shot and killed one of the current "sustainability" CEOs?

What do you suppose the loonies on the Left-- so joyful that Mangione killed Thompson-- would be saying about that?

Good for the goose, good for the gander, no?


Congress-squaw Elizabeth Warren has been mitigating the significance of this murder by stating that while the killing was wrong, it’s understandable, “ because you can only push people so far….”

In the comments section of the news aggregator I asked, what if an individual thought Warren had pushed too far? What then? Is the killing still understandable?



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Congress-squaw Elizabeth Warren has been mitigating the significance of this murder by stating that while the killing was wrong, it’s understandable, “ because you can only push people so far….”

In the comments section of the news aggregator I asked, what if an individual thought Warren had pushed too far? What then? Is the killing still understandable?

It's a fair question.
She supported Obamacare. She supports the stranglehold Big Pharma and Big .Gov have on healthcare. The healthcare system we have is a hybrid but it's more government than private.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^If we had even a moderately honest media, it would ask this question to her face and publish the hypocritical response. I won't hold my breath.



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