It is entirely political and entirely domestic terrorism. The question is who and why. Information and reports are going to be a lot wrong until everything is investigated, camera footage is reviewed, and a timeline created.

What we know:

- RV was planted in early morning and parked, probably to avoid detection as much as possible for the people that planted it.
- Police responding to shots-fired call at 5:30 AM spotted the RV, identified it as suspicious, and and evacuated the area, preventing deaths.
- The RV was detonated at 6:30 AM local time as bomb squad was responding.

Reports of "it was saying it will detonate in 15 minutes" doesn't jibe with the hour passed between 5:30 and 6:30 AM. Did it say that for an hour, or only after they got close enough to trigger a timer?

It is possible the intent was to wait to detonate until later and they had to detonate early because it would have otherwise been defused by the bomb squad.

It is possible the "shots fired" is not related to the bombers. I hear fireworks on holidays at odd times lately. But it's also possible it was intended to draw police to the scene - either by creating noise that citizens called in, or directly calling it in.

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Originally posted by 1s1k:
The police apparently carted off a car load of what appeared to be young people from the sounds of it.

You have a link? I'm not seeing that anywhere...

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Originally posted by BBMW:
The IRA used to routinely issue warnings about their bombings.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
“If you can hear this message - evacuate now.”

https://twitter.com/RexChapman...523678983135234?s=20

Yeah, from this, highly doubt it's terrorism. Terrorists don't care about human lives. They wouldn't have warned anyone to evacuate. They would have set off the bomb when there's a biggest crowd, not early Christmas morning when there's no one around.

This is exactly correct. There was even a series of secret code words in play. When the IRA called in a bombing they would give the police a code word so that the police knew it was real and would evacuate people. The IRA only wanted to hurt and disrupt the government, they did not want to hurt innocent people with their bombing campaigns. Not saying they were right with their actions but not all acts of terrorism have death of civilians as a goal.

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Originally posted by corsair:
Very odd...approx 0630 on Christmas Day, in an entertainment area, when its not populated, at a time when most people are still in-bed.

If the intention is to just make a political statement, but not kill or hurt anyone, then this would be the perfect time, especially if the reports about the recorded warning are true. Almost certainly not ISIS or Al Quida, who are all about killing people, the more the better. Probably domestic, but unless someone takes responsibility, it’s hard to know what their objective is.

I’m sure ISIS will try to take credit, but this isn’t their MO.

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Originally posted by copaup:
I am WAY more comfortable walking up to a door that someone might try to shoot me through than walking up to a door where the house might explode at any moment.

Nobody said that bomb techs aren’t a little “touched”. I look at it this way, if a bomb goes off and kills me then whatever it was is no longer my problem and it happened fast enough that it didn’t hurt. To put it another way, if you see the flash then you won’t hear the bang.

The basque (separatist)used to do the same. Their Goal wasn't to kill the Spaniards & French, they just didn't want to be one.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
The IRA used to routinely issue warnings about their bombings.

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
“If you can hear this message - evacuate now.”

https://twitter.com/RexChapman...523678983135234?s=20

Yeah, from this, highly doubt it's terrorism. Terrorists don't care about human lives. They wouldn't have warned anyone to evacuate. They would have set off the bomb when there's a biggest crowd, not early Christmas morning when there's no one around.

If anyone here knows me or knows my posts, I am the furtherest thing from a fear monger. Pick a topic, and my posts will reflect that I don’t buy in to those that fear monger on any given topic.

But.....

We are way overdue for more of this. The US has been spared terrorism on this level, by and large. I think you’ll start to see people claiming some kind of conspiracy for new gun control, or pick any topic.

You’ve got large groups of people who have spent the last 4 years having their fires stoked for political gain. Now that their voice will be taken away because they are no longer politically useful, I think you’ll see them become more desperate for their attention they crave. As they become more desperate for the spotlight, you’ll see them become more unhinged. I think car bombs are the easy first step and a Mumbai style attack is my true nightmare.

The good news is that bombings are usually easy to solve. Both before and after the device goes off.

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a Mumbai style attack is my true nightmare

Same here, and one reason why I am armed at all times. No exceptions. The real mass shootings we’ve experienced like the Vegas concert or Pulse nightclub were single shooters. A team of murderers with even a modicum of training or a coordinated plan could be horrific. And i feel it’s just a matter of time.

As a result of the explosion, right next to AT&T building, cell phone service and most area 911 services are down. I live 40 miles from downtown Nashville, and have no service. Luckily, have internet through Comcast. My county 911 is out.

911 out for a large area? Wonder what is next?


The Associated Press
@AP

BREAKING: Flights out of Nashville airport have been halted due to telecommunications issues associated with explosion downtown. Police say an RV exploded outside a building housing AT&T network equipment. 911 systems up to 180 miles away were knocked out.

I don't think the location was an accident. I think this was a test. They took out 911 and other valuable government and private communications systems.

Now, they know how do shut down comms for a very wide area.

These guys need finding and stopping because they aren't stupid.

Nope, some 63 y.o. nutter blew himself up in his RV after signing his house over to some woman from California, probably because he ran out of tinfoil.

Reality is always so much less entertaining than speculation.

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Betsy Williams, the owner of the Melting Pot building across the street, told The Tennessean that guests reported the RV was stationed there since Thursday night.

Williams, who lives in a loft apartment on the third floor, said she heard the sound of loud, rapid-fire gunshots at about 4:30 a.m.

After multiple rounds of gunshot sounds, Williams said she called 911.

Then, she said, she heard a repeated warning she said came from the RV parked outside her building.

“Evacuate now. There is a bomb. A bomb is in this vehicle and will explode,” she remembers the recorded warning saying.

Then, she said, the voice started a 15-minute countdown.

Buildings shook in the immediate area and beyond after a loud boom was heard.

https://www.rightjournalism.co...o-evacuate-nowvideo/

We had the same type of thing happen in W. Germany back in the late cold war. Bomb went off in a nice central platz that should have been full of people except the timer was set to 6AM, not 6PM. This thing reeks or premeditation.

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Originally posted by corsair:
Very odd...approx 0630 on Christmas Day, in an entertainment area, when its not populated, at a time when most people are still in-bed.

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:

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Originally posted by copaup:
I am WAY more comfortable walking up to a door that someone might try to shoot me through than walking up to a door where the house might explode at any moment.

Nobody said that bomb techs aren’t a little “touched”. I look at it this way, if a bomb goes off and kills me then whatever it was is no longer my problem and it happened fast enough that it didn’t hurt. To put it another way, if you see the flash then you won’t hear the bang.

Are you EOD? It’s been a long time since I was and no telling the advancements. I’ve seen flashes, heard the bang and lived through it. I never worked on a real IED though, everything I experienced was conventional, practice or mistaken for an IED (I once blew open some ammo cans reported as an IED). It’s a much different world now.

This is the RV that exploded on 2nd Ave N this morning. It arrived on 2nd Ave at 1:22 a.m. Have you seen this vehicle in our area or do you have information about it? Please contact us via Crime Stoppers at 615-742-7463 or online via http://fbi.gov/nashville.
@ATFHQ

from Metro Nashville PD

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:

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Originally posted by copaup:
I am WAY more comfortable walking up to a door that someone might try to shoot me through than walking up to a door where the house might explode at any moment.

Nobody said that bomb techs aren’t a little “touched”. I look at it this way, if a bomb goes off and kills me then whatever it was is no longer my problem and it happened fast enough that it didn’t hurt. To put it another way, if you see the flash then you won’t hear the bang.

Unless it just blows your arms or legs off and you get to lie there slowly going into shock while you bleed out. No thanks. I'll take my chances with a shooter...at least with that I have the opportunity to leverage training and fight back. I've been on bomb calls a few times (thankfully all ended up being unfounded)...it's an eery feeling escorting people out of a building not knowing where or when something might cook off.

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Originally posted by ElToro:
Ugh. This makes me very upset.

So someones hates ATT?
Or
Antifa/ BLM or associates to make it look like trump supporters
Or
Trump supporters to make it look like antifa/BLM
Or
Black flag event by unknown agents to make it look like one of the above. For what reason though

At least they had the decency to do it at 6am on Xmas morning when very few people would be around with evacuation warnings blaring. So maybe they didn’t want to hurt people so I’m leaning towards anti ATT persons.

Nobody knows why. Speculating is pointless. It could be anyone for any reason including somebody that just thought it would be fun to set off a bomb.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I don't think the location was an accident. I think this was a test. They took out 911 and other valuable government and private communications systems.

Now, they know how do shut down comms for a very wide area.

These guys need finding and stopping because they aren't stupid.

I agree this was likely the purpose, to test the vulnerability of the communications system, and it was successful in that regard. I’m not sure you’ll see anything more right away, but the knowledge will go into whatever real attack whoever is behind this is planning.

In all of the aerial footage, I don’t see any evidence of the RV.

The front of the cab, engine axles.
Has anyone seen photos showing parts of the RV after the explosion?

It’s now being reporter that human remains were found near the wreckage. Unknown if it’s those of a victim or the suspect.