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Originally posted by GrumpyMCO:
I wonder who is paying for these to be produced.

Dollars to donuts it's a national conspiracy that's political racketeering. This isn't spontaneous local indignation.

OAN has been doing a series on soros and how much money he's been spending on bonds for rioters, supporting the elections of liberal prosecutors, etc.

You have to wonder if some mayors and governors got a piece of the pie.

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Originally posted by GrumpyMCO:

I was struck by the number of protesters with custom shirts and masks with the victim's likeness - that doesn't come cheap - I wonder who is paying for these to be produced.

Democrats hiring "consultants" like this one to oversee matters at hand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...olitical_consultant)

This is a bit long but a good read.

It details how the formerly 'liberal' democrat party is being usurped by more radical marxists.

https://quillette.com/2020/08/...hallenge-of-marxism/

Our Tennessee Governor took a huge step in the right direction.

Tennessee Republican Gov. Bill Lee has signed off on a bill that imposes harsher penalties for protesters who break certain laws during demonstrations.

The Volunteer State's General Assembly passed the measure last week, and Lee signed it into law without an announcement Thursday.

People who illegally camp on state property now face a Class E felony, punishable by up to six years in prison, instead of a misdemeanor.

Individuals found guilty of a felony in Tennessee also lose the right to vote.

In addition, the law requires that people convicted of aggravated rioting serve a mandatory 45-day sentence, raises the fine for blocking highway access to emergency vehicles, and increases the penatly for aggravated assault against a first responder to a Class C felony.

A Class C felony comes with a $15,000 fine and a mandatory minimum 90-day prison sentence.

After almost two months of sustained protests outside the state Capitol, the bill passed the GOP-lead General Assembly following a three-day special legislative session. Lawmakers also passed bills on COVID-19 liability immunity and telemedicine.

Lee and other Tennessee Republicans have defended the bill, pointing to fires that were set inside and outside a courthouse in May.

“I think what we saw was a courthouse on fire and businesses being broken into and vehicles being damaged. We saw lawlessness that needed to be addressed immediately,” Lee told reporters on Thursday.

That said, Lee has admitted there were portions of the legislation he “would have done differently.”

The move comes on the heels of nearly two months of protests in Nashville sparked by the death of George Floyd, with demonstrators calling for racial justice reforms and a meeting with Lee.

While Lee has declined to meet with them, he has met with a handful of Black leaders and has promised to address “racial reconciliation” and other issues.

Hedy Weinberg, the leader of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee, told The Associated Press on Friday that they were "very disappointed" by Lee's decision to enact the law.

"While the governor often speaks about sentencing reform, this bill contradicts those words and wastes valuable taxpayer funds to severely criminalize dissent," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...fic-forms-of-protest

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Originally posted by GrumpyMCO:
Well things are heating up in Orlando after another shooting 2 weeks ago. Protesters started being arrested last night when they wouldn't get out of the roads.

I was struck by the number of protesters with custom shirts and masks with the victim's likeness - that doesn't come cheap - I wonder who is paying for these to be produced.

I see a huge collision coming if this continues. Our illustrious mayor Demmings (yep, married to that other Demmings in Washington) is going to find himself between the filth on the street and Sheriff Mina, and you can damn sure guess which side Demmings will come down on. Also of note, Mina is up for re-election in November, so it will be interesting to see how he reads the local tea leaves. Cliff Notes version for Mina, if he lets this BS get out of control he'll be out on his ass in November.

^^^^^

It's about time a governor and legislature did something to show that this will not be tolerated.

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:
This is a bit long but a good read.

It details how the formerly 'liberal' democrat party is being usurped by more radical marxists.

https://quillette.com/2020/08/...hallenge-of-marxism/

Thanks, this is very insightful. Conservatives today are trying to preserve the best parts of classical liberalism while staying grounded in the history and traditions that help prevent the "anything goes" attitude that leads to marxism.

The idea that the push to marxism will not end if the democrats regain power is telling, and supported by the fact that the worst riots are currently occurring in some of the most "progressive" cities that have long been controlled by democrats.

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
Our Tennessee Governor took a huge step in the right direction.
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Hedy Weinberg, the leader of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee, told The Associated Press on Friday that they were "very disappointed" by Lee's decision to enact the law.

"While the governor often speaks about sentencing reform, this bill contradicts those words and wastes valuable taxpayer funds to severely criminalize dissent," she said.

That law, as I see it, does not affect "dissent" -- it affects "rioting". "Dissent" is standing on the sidewalk with signs and signing petitions; setting fires and damaging property is "rioting".

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
...Hedy Weinberg, the leader of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee...

That law, as I see it, does not affect "dissent" -- it affects "rioting". "Dissent" is standing on the sidewalk with signs and signing petitions; setting fires and damaging property is "rioting".

flashguy

Thanks captain obvious.

I'll pile on with:
A - Yeah, they may be Americans, acting un-American.
C - Hardly.
L - Haven't cared about REAL liberty in a long time.
U - Yeah, they're a "union" alright!...

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
Our Tennessee Governor took a huge step in the right direction.
(snip)
Hedy Weinberg, the leader of the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee, told The Associated Press on Friday that they were "very disappointed" by Lee's decision to enact the law.

"While the governor often speaks about sentencing reform, this bill contradicts those words and wastes valuable taxpayer funds to severely criminalize dissent," she said.

That law, as I see it, does not affect "dissent" -- it affects "rioting". "Dissent" is standing on the sidewalk with signs and signing petitions; setting fires and damaging property is "rioting".

flashguy

In all of recorded human history, how often are quiet and peaceful dissents successful with respect to their intended goal? Whatever that list is, I'd wager it's quite short.

Do I condone the violence and damage? Definitely not.

But expecting people who feel terribly wronged to be nice and politely talk about it is an exercise in futility.

Ghandi
M. L. King

ACLU is selective... Will not defend 2Amendment

the American Criminal Liberties Union has a different definition of "dissent" than I do.

WATCH: Portland Black Lives Matter Whine About Police Not Saving Them As They Get Walloped By Patriots

Portland became a battleground on Saturday as patriots clashed with the militant left Antifa and Black Lives Matter rioters.
In one of the more hilarious videos to come out of the chaos, a Black Lives Matter militant can be heard whining about how the police are “just standing there” as the extremist leftists got their butts handed to them by the patriots.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...t-walloped-patriots/

I have a crazy idea. Since we have already blown the budget by trillions in deficit spending this year, let's add three trillion more to the tally and pay reparations.

40,000,000 black Americans, minus the ones that have immigrated from Africa or the Caribbean since the end of slavery. If we assume that number is 30 million decendents of slaves, that's 100,000 each.

The money will go directly back into the economy as stimulus on all kinds of things.

And then it's done, everyone gets paid, no more debating it. But then the issue is settled once and for all by law, and no more financial claims can be made. Just get it over with.

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Black Lives Matter Whine About Police Not Saving Them As They Get Whalloped By Patriots

Yeah, you know that Portland.

The funny part is that if the cops got on the patriots' butt without ever having gotten on Anqueefa's butt, then there may well be a long discussion about "state action", "equal protection" and "due process" - as it applies to the cops' interceding to protect the leftists.

AzMikeCFD102 posted a link above to a series of videos

looks like some Portland "counterprotesters" are taking action against these punks. Good for them

"when the police are gone, you'll have to deal w us"

"OHMYGAWD! Are you alright?? Da cops are jus' stennin deh! DA COPS ARE JUS' STENNIN DEH!!"

I saw a sucker punch thrown by the left, and then a right thrown by the right. Don't sucker punch people and you won't get knocked on your narrow commie ass, ma'am. You want "equality"? Well, there it is. How ya like it?

You want the cops to help you? Really? Oh, yeah, you're such a revolutionary, missy.

Push, push. Shove, shove. Shoot.

Let me get this straight.

I have a right to loot, riot, break the law, ignore police, in the name of "justice". But if anyone hinders my application of "justice", the police better be there front and center to protect me.