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Sadly you make a good point. Seems they are targeting areas where their stink will gain the most attention. I guess I wonder if this behavior will be an ebb and flow pattern (although I believe such stink will increase in the coming years). Or is this the first wave of an incoming tempest.


These people are learning they can escalate with few negative consequences. Being arrested isn't bad enough. They likely get out on bail paid by their financial backer and by the time it sifts through the court, the sentences are lenient. No, these punks need to suffer or they will escalate with increasing frequency and be outraged if anyone tries to impose negative consequence. This needed to be nipped in the bud. We missed that opportunity. Now we'll have to peel some scalps back.



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In the global contest between democratic and authoritarian systems, the latter would love the former to descend to their binary level of capability to resolve ideological conflict. Which is why they are pushing internal divisions in the West, much more effectively now in the internet era than back during the Cold War. They rarely support a particular camp rather than playing both sides.


Well strike the last, apparently the 2020 campaign is the Russians vs. the Chinese and Iranians.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
ODNI News Release No. 29-20
August 7, 2020

Statement by NCSC Director William Evanina: Election Threat Update for the American Public

On July 24, 2020, I issued a statement to the American public providing an unclassified overview of foreign threats to the 2020 election and offering basic steps to mitigate some of these threats. At that time, I pledged that the U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) would continue to update the American public and other key stakeholders on the evolving election threat landscape, while also safeguarding our intelligence sources and methods.

Today, we are making good on that promise by sharing additional information with the public on the intentions and activities of our adversaries with respect to the 2020 election. This information is being released for the purpose of better informing Americans so they can play a critical role in safeguarding our election. Below is the latest public update:

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Ahead of the 2020 U.S. elections, foreign states will continue to use covert and overt influence measures in their attempts to sway U.S. voters’ preferences and perspectives, shift U.S. policies, increase discord in the United States, and undermine the American people’s confidence in our democratic process. They may also seek to compromise our election infrastructure for a range of possible purposes, such as interfering with the voting process, stealing sensitive data, or calling into question the validity of the election results. However, it would be difficult for our adversaries to interfere with or manipulate voting results at scale.

Many foreign actors have a preference for who wins the election, which they express through a range of overt and private statements; covert influence efforts are rarer. We are primarily concerned about the ongoing and potential activity by China, Russia, and Iran.

- CHINA – We assess that China prefers that President Trump – whom Beijing sees as unpredictable – does not win reelection. China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China’s interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China. Although China will continue to weigh the risks and benefits of aggressive action, its public rhetoric over the past few months has grown increasingly critical of the current Administration’s COVID-19 response, closure of China’s Houston Consulate, and actions on other issues. For example, it has harshly criticized the Administration’s statements and actions on Hong Kong, TikTok, the legal status of the South China Sea, and China’s efforts to dominate the 5G market. Beijing recognizes that all of these efforts might affect the presidential race.

- RUSSIA – We assess that Russia is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia “establishment.” This is consistent with Moscow’s public criticism of him when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration’s policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia. For example, pro-Russia Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach is spreading claims about corruption – including through publicizing leaked phone calls – to undermine former Vice President Biden’s candidacy and the Democratic Party. Some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump’s candidacy on social media and Russian television.

- IRAN – We assess that Iran seeks to undermine U.S. democratic institutions, President Trump, and to divide the country in advance of the 2020 elections. Iran’s efforts along these lines probably will focus on on-line influence, such as spreading disinformation on social media and recirculating anti-U.S. content. Tehran’s motivation to conduct such activities is, in part, driven by a perception that President Trump’s reelection would result in a continuation of U.S. pressure on Iran in an effort to foment regime change.

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https://www.dni.gov/index.php/...-the-american-public
 
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They are increasingly emboldened by lack of resistance and even encouragement from leftist political leaders. This could have been stopped from the beginning and now the only thing that will put a stop to this is to escalate force beyond anything they imagined.
 
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Micheal J Matt editor of “The Remenant” puts what is all happening into a great commentary. This is about Davos and the great reset. Micheal Matt talks about DAVOS and their plans to reset to a global economy. The globalist are doing every thing they can to get control of our country, to do this they have to take down the United States. To take down the United States they have to take down our president who is a Nationalist.

DAVOS the great reset


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Neighborhood in or near Portland last night.
Homeowner armed with stunned look and flip-flops at 2 AM.
He was yelling, “Get the F#@$ out of here, this is private property”.


Protester looked back to see if anyone was watching before camera turned away.
I would guess the garage door was graffitied or he took a piss.

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Notice how there’s CAMERAS always around? Off in the distance, not too far off, close enough to get a good shot at your face to prove it’s you, but far enough away as not to get hurt when the baseball bats and axe handles start swinging.

Almost like it’s planned...

(Note to self, pummel cameraman first...)


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If that doesn't qualify as suburbs, what does? Naturally, they couldn't be in all or most suburbs, but to say it won't happen is simply not correct.


WOW, the news has been silent about this. I based my theory off Suburbia here. Perhaps they have knowledge of the more passive neighborhoods to go into.


Now the city council is reviewing the officers' actions.

Looks like next time the residents will be on their own or they will have orders to protect the terrorists from the residents.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50...-that-turned-violent


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ted cruz has an interesting podcast, the one below with acting DHS sec Chad Wolf.
part where he describes "peaceful" protest.
the part that gets me:
https://youtu.be/CDsPAZgE_9Q?t=713
 
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Now the city council is reviewing the officers' actions.

Looks like next time the residents will be on their own or they will have orders to protect the terrorists from the residents.. . .


I sure hope you are wrong about that. I have family not too far away from there.




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Micheal J Matt editor of “The Remnant” puts what is all happening into a great commentary. This is about Davos and the great reset. Micheal Matt talks about DAVOS and their plans to reset to a global economy. The globalist are doing every thing they can to get control of our country, to do this they have to take down the United States. To take down the United States they have to take down our president who is a Nationalist.

Good video. Thanks for posting.
Yes, the attempt to take down Trump and overthrow the United States is much bigger than just the riots. The rioters are just being used as pawns. Ultimately, they will be cannon fodder.



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I live in, perhaps, the safest city in Central Florida... Winter Park. The local PD has essentially !00% support of the community.

Being partially disabled and in close proximity to downtown, I keep my race 12 ready to hand, just in case.

Having read the news report of Antifa trying to burn down a Police building and trying to keep the human occupants inside, I have a serious question:

When you are in your home and see someone preparing an incendiary device to use on your home, at what point is use of deadly force justified?

I pray that this situation never happens. My inclination is to bring the threat to a halt.

Thoughts, please...


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Thank you Ozarkwoods. Re: Micheal Matt video. That put all the bits and pieces together in one package, so to speak. Never heard of The Remnant before and will ck it out from time to time.
 
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Micheal J Matt editor of “The Remenant” puts what is all happening into a great commentary. This is about Davos and the great reset. Micheal Matt talks about DAVOS and their plans to reset to a global economy. The globalist are doing every thing they can to get control of our country, to do this they have to take down the United States. To take down the United States they have to take down our president who is a Nationalist.

DAVOS the great reset


Thank you for the excellent video.


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I live in, perhaps, the safest city in Central Florida... Winter Park. The local PD has essentially !00% support of the community.

Being partially disabled and in close proximity to downtown, I keep my race 12 ready to hand, just in case.

Having read the news report of Antifa trying to burn down a Police building and trying to keep the human occupants inside, I have a serious question:

When you are in your home and see someone preparing an incendiary device to use on your home, at what point is use of deadly force justified?

I pray that this situation never happens. My inclination is to bring the threat to a halt.

Thoughts, please...


That is an excellent question for your local prosecutor....

Each area is different and there is always some leeway when it comes to the law. In NC the local DA sent out his interpretation of carrying concealed in a car...specifically, in NC if a weapon is in plain view (on the dash) it is not concealed and you can’t get a ticket for it...if it’s under a towel in the passenger seat it is concealed...

Many laws are interpreted by the local DAs or Magistrates....

The cops work by their own use of force policy that differ by departments even when the laws are in black and white.

I might shoot the perp quicker than you because I have 20 years of experience as a cop and can articulate it better than you...or I might wait a little longer than you, because I used to be a cop and know they will drag it up when I go to court...

I would start really thinking of shooting someone with a Molotov cocktail when he:
1. Has it lit
2. Has his arm cocked back about to throw

If he’s in the street with it unlit, it is no harm to me....and he might be on his way to go “protest” elsewhere.



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I sure hope you are wrong about that. I have family not too far away from there.

The Salt Lake area is becoming full of RINOs like Romney who think they are "doing the right thing". Have you seen the AP stories KSL is pushing lately?

It is also becoming full of liberals like that council woman involved in the incident. A few weeks ago she knelt during the Pledge during the Cottonwood Heights council meeting. There are some middle class areas, but that town is full of multi-million dollar homes. It's surprising this kind if thing is happening there, but things are changing all over the valley.
 
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I would start really thinking of shooting someone with a Molotov cocktail when he:
1. Has it lit
2. Has his arm cocked back about to throw


I've been thinking about this also, as I'm guessing it's the cheapest and most effective means these folks have for taking out a home, and I'm not sure I would be able to wait for #2. Once that sucker's lit, the decision to use it has been made. Maybe there's been situations where they get lit and folks just hang onto them for whatever reason, but really, it's akin to pulling the pin on a grenade and holding the spoon down: once it leaves your hand, be it thrown or dropped, it's going to do what it's intended to do. If it doesn't burst from being dropped, it can be picked up and thrown by another "protestor." If my house gets mobbed for being a suspected Trump voter, (you know, a Nazi?) and I see people lighting molotov cocktails, I think I'm going to have to assume that they intend to use them.

I'm sure that's a really ugly court battle just waiting to happen somewhere.


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Protesters in Indianapolis point guns at drivers to stop them

Starts at about 30 sec mark.

http://www.tonykatz.com/2020/0...sts-in-indianapolis/
 
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from the video above

 
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A lot more people are going to get shot if crap this ^^^ this is allowed to go on.

And my guess is the LARPers are not that proficient in gunfighting and have probably never had bullets coming toward them.

One day they will mess with the wrong driver - a guy who's had enough and who knows how to handle himself on a 2-way range.
 
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Looking at that pic, would a driver be justified in hitting the gas pedal??




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