In the days of J. Edgar, every third member of ANTIFA / BLM would have been an FBI Agent.
Now.... Not so much. I will be pleasantly surprised to see some RICO (continuing criminal enterprise), Domestic Terror, Conspiracy, etc. type of indictments come down the pike, but I am not holding my breath.
Look how long they took to snatch ( ) up Ghislaine Maxwell!

Imagine the lack of antifa/blm prosecutions under a possible biden AG...

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to think that the FBI has folks working the crowd each night in Portland, gaining intel, tagging leaders, etc. Wouldn't be hard to blend in with the Black Bloc crew. Seems like too good an opportunity to pass up to learn more about how the movement works, where the weapons come from, the funding, etc.

Those are all good thoughts but I highly doubt the FBI cares about any of that. This is the same group that participated in a coup to topple the government.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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Originally posted by Skins2881: Staged or not, doesn't matter. The lady has the same right to free speech as you and I do. This is coming from someone who had half his family killed by Nazis and can see the fear 80 years later in their grandfather's eys when he talks about Kristallnacht.

It doesn't matter how horrible her thoughts are and how much I hate them. The first amendment still exists and American freedom still exists. I would never lay a hand on her no matter how abhorrent I find her ideas.

Bear in mind that Antifa bills itself as "antifascist", and tries to hearken back to the days when the Communists fought the Nazis in the streets of Berlin before WWII. To them, staging an incident with one person wearing one swastika armband would be worthwhile street theater since as far as anyone can tell there aren't actually any fascists in the streets for them to "defend" us against! Meanwhile, of course, it's all a means to an end for them and the end really is forcing socialism on the country. IOW, those little basement dwelling bastards reeeally need to validate their bullshit in the eyes of the public.

I understand and believe in the principle you're defending, but in this case it really does matter whether the incident was staged.

I misunderstood I think. You are saying the person getting assaulted is actually ANTIFA and volunteered to be accosted, risk being blinded by lasers, and have her house vandalized. That is some commitment to the cause. I thought you were saying she was just trying to piss off the protesters by putting the swastika stuff on. I really don't think she would risk all the damage to her eyes, her residence, and her reputation in the neighborhood just to show there are still a handful of people that believe in Nazism.

Referring to the picture I posted on page 28 of this thread.

Well, in the video from Wednesday night, they did say “we are going to vandalize your house as a minimum”.
Looks like they did.

Last night when the Antifa/BLM terrorist marched down the street they stopped at her house, which now had “A Nazi lives here” written on it and broke her windows.

Four other residents came out to defend their house, one armed with a machete.
They got in a heated argument with the terrorist and the lady stepped out of her house armed with a bat.

Little drummer boy terrorist asked if the other residents were OK with a Nazi living there, as he pointed at her with his drum stick.
Not sure what their response was, but, the drummer responded that “we are not good with a Nazi living anywhere.”

I do believe the neighborhood residence said something about their kids needing to sleep and they needed to work in the morning.

Marching down the street and beating your drum, is not practicing your “right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to think that the FBI has folks working the crowd each night in Portland, gaining intel, tagging leaders, etc. Wouldn't be hard to blend in with the Black Bloc crew. Seems like too good an opportunity to pass up to learn more about how the movement works, where the weapons come from, the funding, etc.

Those are all good thoughts but I highly doubt the FBI cares about any of that. This is the same group that participated in a coup to topple the government.

What do you think is going on today?
Given some time, some more people... you think antifa doesn’t want to topple the US Government and not just local governments such as Portland?

***HOPEFULLY*** the fbi/ rest of the Feds, State, County or Local LE has some people INSIDE antifa.
Hard to do! Times have changed... this ISN’T the ‘60s and infiltrating the KKK or some hippy / black panther organization.

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I really don't think she would risk all the damage to her eyes, her residence, and her reputation in the neighborhood just to show there are still a handful of people that believe in Nazism.

Well, unless her white fascist husband told her to do it.

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Originally posted by architect:

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I really don't think she would risk all the damage to her eyes, her residence, and her reputation in the neighborhood just to show there are still a handful of people that believe in Nazism.

Well, unless her white fascist husband told her to do it.

She looks to live alone.
She also seems pretty scared with having confronted a mob outside her house at least two nights in a row.
Stepping outside alone with a bat after her windows are shattered would seem a bit odd as well if she had a husband living with her.

You may not like what the lady thinks, but that does not give anyone the right to vandalize her residence and smash her windows. Unless we are playing Thought Police, she has committed no crime.

"Put your mask on!" X 100 repetitions from the crowd of attackers.

If anything demonstrates the non-scientific/medical motivation for the mask mandate, this does.

Its all about advancing the progressive revolution.

I hope the 'mostly peaceful protesters' never surge down my little neighborhood streets.

Letter from Portland Police Association to Mayor Wheeler and District Attorney Schmidt.

In response to the riots in East Portland the past two nights, the PPA has sent a letter to Mayor Wheeler and District Attorney Schmidt.

In closing:

"I am disgusted that our City has come to this. If it is acceptable for rioters to commit acts of violence against community members and to try and burn down occupied buildings, and if this conduct is allowed to continue, then Portland is lost. Our communities demand accountability. That includes you two being accountable to the public. Allow our Police Officers to do the job they swore an oath to do, to stop crime and the fear of crime. Use the criminal justice system to hold criminals accountable for their crimes with actual consequences. Let the Police Chief, his command staff, and the rank-and-file officers do their jobs in protecting the City from the rioters who are bent on destroying our City, burning our police precincts, and assaulting officers or anyone else who gets in their way. Portland has had enough."

Daryl Turner, President
Portland Police Association

Download Full Letter to Portland Mayor and DA Here

Tonights Scheduled events:
Will not be posting this again, but I think you get the point.
This happens every night, 7 days a week in Portland.
I posted some links on page 7 & 8 of this thread if you want to watch Live Streaming of events.
Real action typically starts between midnight and 1AM PST.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I have to think that the FBI has folks working the crowd each night in Portland, gaining intel, tagging leaders, etc. Wouldn't be hard to blend in with the Black Bloc crew. Seems like too good an opportunity to pass up to learn more about how the movement works, where the weapons come from, the funding, etc.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
That approach was highly successful with the Klan in the 1960s. The Klan was not an easy organization to infiltrate since many of the members were in local law enforcement. The FBI alone was pretty successful in that endeavor.

Let me get this straight, you trust the FBI now? Let me get you a bobble, lay you down, and pull your blankets up tight. Sleep tight. See you in the morning.

These assholes aren't coming to the 'burbs.

Too spread out and the sheriffs don't play that shit.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
These assholes aren't coming to the 'burbs.

Too spread out and the sheriffs don't play that shit.

You'll love this. I spoke with a friend today who is a sargent with the Orange County Sheriff's Department. Apparently brass for the sheriff's department has voiced some real concerns, not about Antifa protesters entering local neighborhoods, but instead about the potential response they could encounter. The sheriff knows just how many gun owning, CCL's, and proud Americans live in big pockets throughout the area. Knowing that, I bet he and local elected morons work a whole lot harder to keep those two groups separated.

Not that long ago, in this country, there were bounties paid for scalps of savages.
Would be mighty hard to resist travelling a bit to join the gig economy if the good ol' days come back.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
These assholes aren't coming to the 'burbs.

What's this, then?

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Originally posted by Ackks:
This is a pretty wealthy area near Salt Lake.

I know that neighborhood, somewhat upscale in the Salt Lake area.

If that doesn't qualify as suburbs, what does? Naturally, they couldn't be in all or most suburbs, but to say it won't happen is simply not correct.

I read a few articles re the Cottonwood Heights protest. Protesters were told they needed to stay on the sidewalks and there would be no problem. Some said there was no room on the sidewalks (ie, they were justified in blocking traffic on the streets).

The only motivation would be to stir up stink in the suburbs, defend their "right" to do so.

Utah County is rated the most conservative county in a top conservative State (forgive us for Romney. That was a fix.). The shooting in down town Provo in Utah county proved to me that it can and will happen anywhere ANTIFA fancies. We are all on the chopping block. ANTIFA vandals damaged property on the BYU campus in Utah County. BYU is a very conservative campus relatively speaking. These tantrum throwers are everywhere and it doesn't take much to ignite their ire. They cannot be reasoned with because they are full of sanctimony. When they strengthen their numbers and a frenzy is incited there id nothing they won't do. Mrs DF and I have learned a lot the past several weeks. We are acting accordingly.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Utah County is rated the most conservative county in a top conservative State (forgive us for Romney. That was a fix.). The shooting in down town Provo in Utah county proved to me that it can and will happen anywhere ANTIFA fancies. We are all on the chopping block. ANTIFA vandals damaged property on the BYU campus in Utah County. BYU is a very conservative campus relatively speaking. These tantrum throwers are everywhere and it doesn't take much to ignite their ire. They cannot be reasoned with because they are full of sanctimony. When they strengthen their numbers and a frenzy is incited there id nothing they won't do. Mrs DF and I have learned a lot the past several weeks. We are acting accordingly.

Sadly you make a good point. Seems they are targeting areas where their stink will gain the most attention. I guess I wonder if this behavior will be an ebb and flow pattern (although I believe such stink will increase in the coming years). Or is this the first wave of an incoming tempest.