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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
I agree that giving a few of these punks a taste of being arrested, booked, put in containment cells, and then charged with a crime, getting a lawyer, paying a retainer, and having to tell their parents they are in trouble, will scare a lot of the rest of them away. They act out because there are no consequences (probable no discipline at home) and they think they can get away with it be blending into the crowd.

Absolutely agree. Efforts along those lines should winnow them down to the hardcore zealots. Then they can face water cannons all the way up to the microwave pulse anti-riot control device. That should put a crimp in the shorts of pretty much any zealot out there.

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Originally posted by 83v45magna:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
I agree that giving a few of these punks a taste of being arrested, booked, put in containment cells, and then charged with a crime, getting a lawyer, paying a retainer, and having to tell their parents they are in trouble, will scare a lot of the rest of them away. They act out because there are no consequences (probable no discipline at home) and they think they can get away with it be blending into the crowd.

Absolutely agree. Efforts along those lines should winnow them down to the hardcore zealots. Then they can face water cannons all the way up to the microwave pulse anti-riot control device. That should put a crimp in the shorts of pretty much any zealot out there.

This is what's going to happen. It's what HAS to happen. When, is anyone's guess. I suspect the Trump Administration is playing it out, waiting for it to get to the point when Americans start demanding action.

The ACLU suit is absurd.

Let's see here, have the protests every single night turned into riots with criminal activity? Yep.
Is it likely that criminal activity will re-occur each night? Yep.
If the police can't see that pattern after 60 days they're in the wrong line of work.

This is not surveillance and data gathering about individuals, it is a security camera looking for anything that is illegal, just like in most every business.

Most cities require a permit for a public demonstration on public property. If the event does not have a permit, everyone participating has broken that ordinance.

The left hasn't learned from what happened in the late 60's after the riots. People with money fled the cities to the suburbs, and the cities lost tax base, stability, and decayed into what we see in Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis and other cities.

It took 20-30 years for people to start moving back into some cities, renovate old building and warehouses into apartments, build new condos, develop a tax base, expand small businesses, and create the community stability that resulted in lower crime rates.

And now if they don't put a stop to this insurrection and massive increase in violent crime the same thing will happen again. Just as things get better in some cities, the left is destroying it again.

And now they have to worry about losing the tax base of large businesses and offices that many companies have found they no longer need with everyone working at home. Commercial real estate in cities is likely to take a nose dive after all this is over.

One could assume that these cities that have disbanded/neutered the police don't care about tax income? I really, really want to see those cities burn

^^ Or being 'redlined' in their entirety by the insurance industry.

I have great hope that the answer to reduce violence, unrest, and the corresponding insanity in the liberal press will all change with a conservative win at the polls in November. We can hope the anarchist types will no longer be tolerated or supported by those who "paid" for a Trump/conservative defeat. Conservatives will be more encouraged they were not alone, and more outspoken against them.

Right now, working to sweep out as many of the insanely left elected officials as possible is the very best solution. Stay ready till then

Yes, once President Trump wins re-election, the corrupt news media reptiles will not be able to sustain their part in the attempted overthrow of the United States. Oh, the basement dwellers will get out there and burn down the parts of the city they haven't gotten to yet, and all the lawsuits about the election will have to be introduced aand dismissed, but, eventualy, reality will set in.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yes, once President Trump wins re-election, the corrupt news media reptiles will not be able to sustain their part in the attempted overthrow of the United States. Oh, the basement dwellers will get out there and burn down the parts of the city they haven't gotten to yet, and all the lawsuits about the election will have to be introduced aand dismissed, but, eventualy, reality will set in.

From your mouth to God’s ear Para.

We're Seeing the Death Rattle of the Revolution, Not Its Birth

I’m not surprised, though I am chagrined, that a lot of people, including people I know and respect, are buying into the idea that what we’re in the midst of is a Marxist revolution in the U.S.

Look, I understand, okay? Not as many people have had the experience I had of living under unbridled, unmasked Marxist power, so you don’t understand their myths and how they actually connect with reality. Oh, you’re starting to see it, as the left drops its masks, but it’s not the same as seeing them running around, showing their behinds and expounding the craziest theories during your formative years, when your eye is unsparing. There is a reason it was a little boy who cried “the king goes naked.”

Let’s start with what the left thinks they are doing:

They think they’re bringing about their utopia, their heaven on Earth.

They have been programmed – indoctrinated, really – from birth via the media, education, entertainment, and – heaven have mercy – even churches and synagogues into believing what amounts to a heretical Christian sect.

There are many variations of the Communist mythos, mostly Marx, but with its roots firmly in Rosseau. They range from racial ones (one to each race) to feminist ones. There are probably others I haven’t even heard about.

The myth goes like this: in the beginning, there was no capitalism (the cult’s quaint name for any free buying and selling or trade. (This is why they call monarchies capitalism or private property.) This was the dawn of man, the perfect state of humanity. Because there was no property there was no envy and no crime. Man (and particularly woman) lived in a time of innocence. In this perfect utopia – feminist version – women ruled, sex was free, babies were brought up communally, and every woman could do as she pleased. In the racial version, the poor now-oppressed race were the rulers, and therefore there was no property, etc., etc. No crime.

But then the serpent evil white race showed up. Or males rebelled. Whatever. Because, you know they didn’t like paradise. And they instituted private property and “capitalism” and since then there’s been this great struggle by the good to overturn the evil. In the end, the good prevails, they confiscate and redistribute all private property and reeducate the people maimed by living under the unjust capitalist system and we go back to living in a utopia.

The liniments of the story should sound familiar if you come from a Judeo-Christian background. It’s the story of creation, fall, and eventual world-redemption, only stripped of a creator, any power superior to the Kommissars and the idea of personal redemption. In fact, in this heresy the individual doesn’t matter at all, only the group he belongs to.

I doubt any Marxist has been told this story as such, but I promise you it is in the background of a lot of their books, from “non-fiction” to novels. The idea, bonkers as it is and as easy to dismantle as it is, is in the background of their thoughts.

These ideas have been in circulation for a long time, and I guarantee if you read your kids’ school books and look for hints of this you will find it. Particularly in history. I was fortunate (?) to have relatives from many professional backgrounds and to be a compulsive reader. For instance, my sister-in-law in Portugal is an M.D. and studied from American books. Her psychiatric manuals were full of the idea that mental illness was brought about by the unnatural state of “capitalism” and therefore if you abolish capitalism, there will be no mental illness. This, incidentally, was a lot of the idea behind the scenes of the de-institutionalization movement, which closed madhouses and filled our streets with mentally ill homeless. These books, in the seventies, suggested very strongly that America kept as many political prisoners in madhouses as the USSR because capitalism caused madness, which only proved the mad people were sane, since they were rejecting capitalism.

The origins of this devil’s brew go back all the way to the crazy theories of noble savages, overlaid with Marx and then weaponized against healthy societies by the USSR agitprop (agitation and propaganda, the only thing they ever did well).

Now that you have the decoder ring, it is probably starting to make sense why Black Lives Matter immediately jumps to “abolish capitalism”; why feminism jumps to “abolish capitalism”; and why Hollywood has a love affair with making the homeless the repositories of wisdom.

Once your eyes are open you’ll see it everywhere. Which is good, because this stupid mythos, this tissue of half-baked wishful thinking and the toddler’s scream of “it’s not fair,” has permeated society to such an extent that you’re looking at the current spastic insanity from the left as they are.

Yes, I know, a lot of what they’re doing echoes revolutions from the French to the Russian, to a lot of other revolutions throughout the 20th century. I know. I lived through one of the later ones (though this being Portugal – basically the D&D alignment of chaotic neutral with borders – it was the international socialists rebelling against the national socialists). And all of them have the same “touch-feel” and the same incidents. For a long time now I’ve been telling people to watch for a pregnant woman being shot and becoming a martyr of the revolution. If they can manage it, she’ll be black and Latin too. It’s one of the touchstones of the kabuki theater revolutions of the left.

What you should ask yourself, actually, and give an honest answer to, is how these revolutions can all be so similar to each other, step by step and touch by touch in completely different times and societies.

And if you answer honestly, you’ll realize it’s because these events are being staged. In the cargo-cult religion of the left, if they do these things this way, the power will devolve to them, utopia will be installed, and everyone will be happy, even the evil bad rightists after they are re-educated.

That pregnant woman who will get shot “by federal forces” any day now? That is universal, because – I think – if the law officers don’t provide her, her comrades will. (If you have a pregnant daughter stupid enough to gambol with ProAntifa, warn her. She won’t believe you, but your conscience will be clean if she’s the chosen victim.) As are other things, like the evil, mean authorities putting down the “peaceful” protesters and sparking the final rebellion.

There are only two things standing in the way of their sparking their revolution. They’re blind to them, but we should not be.

The first is that there isn’t a vast mass of the “dispossessed” who are natural communists and will “ignite” into violent revolution and take over, given the slightest encouragement.

No, I’m serious, Obama believed in this with all his heart (that poor man is an echo-boomer and a red-diaper baby and so his head is full of excrement to an extent no sane person can believe). Hence his telling bankers he was standing between them and the mob (that Obama was sure was just ready to ignite). Hence, the crazy stupidity of Fast And Furious, which posited that if American guns were found at the site of Mexican cartel crimes, the (oppressed, natch) people of America would rise up and demand gun control in solidarity with their oppressed brethren. And if you look closely, you’ll see the links between Obama and Occupy Wall Street, which they believed was the spark that would send the 99% up in revolution. Only… it failed because the 99% are not “natural communists” wishing to throw off the yoke of capitalism. You need to be exquisitely indoctrinated to believe they are.

The second thing they have wrong, and what I urge you to realize as soon as you can: They are not the “oppressed.” No, I don’t mean by that that there is no oppression in our society. Any human society has people with more power than others. It’s just that the groups and ideas that the left and their violent lap-wolves Antifa have cast as victims aren’t the victims.

In fact, their philosophy—the Marxist ideology they propound and the craziness behind it—has been in control of society, on top, since at least the seventies.

Being a leftist is a mark of being “good” and also well educated. The same way that in Elizabethan England poor mad Christopher Marlowe wrote his stage directions in Latin, to show that he had had an excellent education and deserved respect, so too the leftists of today pepper their works, from movies to TV to books to art, with odes to the oppressed and paeans to the coming revolution. It’s how you show you’re high-class and exquisitely educated.

All the old families, all the rich, all the captains of industry and power brokers signal left as hard as they can, because that’s where the power is—and in my field, the awards, the professorships, and the acclaim. Heck, remember what Trump signaled just to be allowed to do business.

And that’s why I’ve been watching in amusement the left going through the motions of kabuki theater revolution against a society… they control.

If you go read the history of the French Revolution and probably the Russian (it’s been a long time since I actually read on it) you’ll find this is a typical move of the out-of-touch “ruling” and “powerful” class as they start to lose control.

They will proclaim themselves the defenders of the poor, fighting on behalf of the oppressed, their only defense, etc.

It never works. It. Never. Works.

Louis XVI putting a revolutionary coquade atop his powdered wig didn’t save his head from falling to the guillotine.

Real revolutions, not the left’s pretend theater, are not “and the people rose up.” That’s usually the last stage. Real revolutions are caused by living conditions/ways of making a living changing so dramatically that ideology must follow.

Communism and socialism were – though heads-on-pants insane – well suited to the mentality of mass production and mass movements.

They’re fish out of water in the 21st century. Which is why every move they make turns against them. Their heads are full of a society that no longer exists.

I’m not saying they’re not a danger, particularly in the areas – geographic and social – they control. What I’m saying is that they’re losing that control.

The ramping-up insanity you see is partly their desperate need to keep control and partly the fact that their prophecy has failed twice in two different flavors right before their eyes.

Obama was supposed to usher in a non-white utopia. Well… that didn’t happen. And then when the feminists were about to usher in their feminist utopia, it was snatched from their aching hands.

Their art works and entertainment filled with their gospel truth bring less and less money/acclaim/etc.

Their only chance, as they see it, is to bring about utopia now.

But they’re looking at it backwards. And if they keep on destroying and burning and looting in the hopes the vast “oppressed” hordes who want communism will rise up, this will all end in “Aristo, aristo a la lanterne.”

Stay aware. Stay calm. Don’t get caught up in their play. This is their last push.

And if history is any guide, it will fail. The only question now is how high a butcher’s bill will we have to pay.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yes, once President Trump wins re-election, the corrupt news media reptiles will not be able to sustain their part in the attempted overthrow of the United States. Oh, the basement dwellers will get out there and burn down the parts of the city they haven't gotten to yet, and all the lawsuits about the election will have to be introduced aand dismissed, but, eventualy, reality will set in.

Your mouth to God’s Ear. Wonder how many news rags will survive reality. We wondered in the past if it would come to blood in the streets...guess the answer was yes. And most likely a lot more to come before relative calm comes again.

Thank you for posting that article, EZ_B

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
Thank you for posting that article, EZ_B

My pleasure!

I think that we might benefit from a bit of thoughtfully reasoned optimism.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Yes, once President Trump wins re-election, the corrupt news media reptiles will not be able to sustain their part in the attempted overthrow of the United States. Oh, the basement dwellers will get out there and burn down the parts of the city they haven't gotten to yet, and all the lawsuits about the election will have to be introduced aand dismissed, but, eventualy, reality will set in.

Well, being a 'manager' we're told to just listen to the people who are working for signs of stress. That nugget of wisdom from HR or course. And it was about stress due to the current COVIDIOCY. Being the only manager who has been in the building almost every day since this started, I've teleworked one day. But in all my time at work, I've had people talk to me about the utter BS that is the response to the Kung Flu. Only times I've had to have a time to listen to someone vent were all concerning frustration at the lawlessness we've all been seeing. The 'COVID fatigue' is mostly seen as an annoyance. But those that are troubled were mostly concerned about the riots and how they were simply allowed to run rampant.
And I do get the strong impression that everyone has the same view on the Belligerent Lying Marxists, but they know if they say anything they'll end up with a (virtual) talk with HR. So they keep that to themselves.

check out these videos

Are things changing in Portland ?

https://www.redstate.com/shipw...or-were-on-our-side/

On July 27 I observed that Portland PD seemed to be showing some newfound “vigor” in the streets in their confrontation with rioters — two consecutive days shortly following Mayor Wheeler having received a less than cordial welcome on the frontlines. He continued to have the right words spew forth when he spoke about the protesters, but in what Portland PD you certainly got the feeling some different message was communicated by him beyond the earshot of the press.

Then came the announcement of a deal reached between Oregon Governor Kate Brown and DHS for the shift in responsibility for securing the parks and streets to the Oregon State Police and Portland PD. My colleague Nick Arama had it first here on July 29.

That was followed by relative peace and tranquility on the streets of Portland the nights of July 30 and 31.

But it seems like Antifa/BLM thought tonight would be a good time to test the commitment of Portland PD to the new plan with the Feds. But it looks like they didn’t appreciate how quickly the spirit of cooperation between the Democrat politicians and the rioters would evaporate into the ether.

Portland PD was there tonight to drive home this new reality.

Andy Ngo: Antifa gathered in a residential area of Portland to attack a Portland Police building. They’ve been pushed far back

Posts from the rioter brigade:

11 PM in Portland, and the police have already attacked the protest outside the Sheriff’s Office in central Eastside, rushing and beating protesters.
Another large crowd still downtown, going strong.
DHS pulled back, just so the PPB can take up the role of brutalizing protestors.


It can’t be overstated how horribly Portland police attacked a peaceful protest tonight. People who didn’t “retreat” fast enough got maced and assaulted. Press got into her car, police slashed her tires and broke her windows. Feds might’ve gone, but local police need to go too.

PPB tells people to leave. When a protester tries to help another protester on the ground PPB pushes that person down and keeps pushing people down who are trying to get up.

Portland Police just moved into a group of protestors assembled in front of the SE precinct. Journalists from the ground report use of force, mace, flash bangs and slashing of protestors’ bike tires. Several arrests made.

Rogue police agency.



15 seconds in you can see the cop flip the person's backpack on their head to disorient them, and then push them from behind.

What the fuck is this shit.

This is hard to watch. This is what LOCAL Portland police are doing to people backing away/running away from them tonight.

not hard to watch at all


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these trouble makers look (and sound like) some of the most pathetic and weak "revolutionaries" you will ever see

more videos (by the assholes) here:

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPota...-were-on-our-side%2F

in one the crowd chants to the police : "you about to lose your job"

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these trouble makers look (and sound like) some of the most pathetic and weak "revolutionaries" you will ever see

It looks and sounds like these protestors don't know how to cope when authorities push back quickly and are "whining" about how the police will not stand by passively let them destroy things as they have been doing. If they are whining about this, they would have a very rude awakening if the police were ever freed to do what they should have done a long time ago.

Austin Texas last night.
This will grow worse if the Police continue to allow people to freely march in the street.
What about the rights of the law abiding citizen?

I wasn’t sure where this was appropriate, but I decided to post it here.

Minneapolities (?) and those going there, the former Minneapolis police force has a PSA for you.

Act accordingly.

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Minneapolis police tell residents to obey criminals and ‘be prepared’ to be robbed

The Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) told residents they should “be prepared” to hand over their phones, wallets, and purses to robbers.

The MPD has reported a 46 percent increase in carjackings and a 36 percent increase in robberies compared to this same time last year, according to WCCO.

Police in the city’s Third Precinct alone have received more than 100 reports of robberies and 20 reports of carjackings in just the last month.

Officials are now telling residents to be ready and willing to comply with the demands of criminals in an email sent to Third Precinct residents.

“Be prepared to give up your cell phone and purse/wallet,” the police said in their email, a copy of which was obtained by Alpha News. The email said citizens should listen to criminals and “do as they say.”

The message warned that “some victims have been maced, dragged, assaulted, and some threatened with a gun.”



In addition to emailing Minneapolis residents, the police have circulated the directions via local media. KTSP, Bring Me The News, and other outlets have all reposted the MPD’s directives word for word.

Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo said his department has “redeployed internal resources and intelligence gathering” to combat what he calls an “uptick” in crime, Bring Me The News reported.

Despite this, innocent people have been affected by the recent rash of crime. After several men tried to rob a woman in broad daylight, police said a Good Samaritan rushed to intervene and was shot in the process.

A 99-year-old woman was also assaulted in her home by a man who broke in and wrapped her head in a blanket. Despite her age and the directions to comply with the criminal’s demands, Evelyn Johnson boldly warded off her attacker.

“He thought he was just going to cover my mouth and smother me, but that didn’t happen. I fought him. We wrestled for quite a while, according to all my bruises,” she told KTSP.

Johnson said the suspect eventually shoved her into her bathroom, stealing her iPad and $40.

Basically, give up you shit and pray the robber does not injure, kill, or sexually assault you.

I already have my plan.

It started by adding Minneapolis to the list of places that will not see me or so much as one penny from me spent in their establishments.