Bunch of bad drivers out there.

It is laughable, each time a vehicle goes through an area of protest, all the protesters scream, they were trying to run people over.

Now let’s think about that.
A street full of people, and you want us to believe the intent was to run people over?

That’s absurd, if there was intent to run people over, there would be people run over.

Rioters in Portland Assault Officers, Set Fire to Police Union Building

August 5, 2020

https://www.theepochtimes.com/..._stm_source=smartech

Another riot broke out in Portland late Tuesday as a mob broke into and set fire to a police union building.

Unrest in Oregon’s largest city has unfolded nightly since late May.

The crowd of several hundred arrived outside the Portland Police Association’s office and used vehicles and fencing to block off the road outside the building. Rioters started vandalizing the office with graffiti while others pulled plywood off of doors and windows.

Just after 11 p.m., several people began trying to break into the office. Portland police officers in the area told them to stop over loudspeaker, but the group ignored the police. The mob attacked a woman wearing an American flag as a cape when she tried putting out a fire they started next to the building.

Because of the efforts to break into the building and multiple fires, the Portland Police Bureau declared an unlawful assembly and ordered the crowd to leave the area.

As officers moved in to secure the building, rioters hurled projectiles like rocks and bricks, striking several officers. One officer was struck by an unknown alkaline substance, the bureau said in an incident summary.

A few blocks away, someone unleashed gunfire following a fight in the parking lot of a convenience store. Officers arrived at the location to investigate but left after finding no one was shot. Everyone present refused to speak to officers and the crowd chanted, “We don’t need you.” People threw items at officers as they drove away.

Rioters returned to the police union office and broke in around 1 a.m., inflicting damage and setting fire to the building, prompting officers to declare a riot.

Officers forcefully dispersed the crowd and most people left the area by 3:30 a.m. They used crowd-control munitions but not tear gas.

Those arrested were identified as Lisa Webb, 28, accused of rioting, disorderly conduct, and interfering with a police officer; Isaac Martin, 31, accused of attempting to assault an officer and interfering with an officer; and Carlton Smith, 47, accused of interfering with a police officer.

Portland officials have struggled to quell near-nightly violence since May. Rioters have regularly changed their targets, initially focusing on the Justice Center, a county building that houses a jail and a sheriff’s office. They later turned to the Mark O. Hatfield Courthouse, a federal building. The Trump administration on July 4 sent federal assets to Portland because police failed to protect the building.

After the state agreed to help quell the violence around the courthouse, rioters began targeting the Penumbra Kelly Building east of downtown. The building includes county and local law enforcement offices.

Rioters previously targeted the police association’s building, setting it on fire on July 18.

The union didn’t respond to a request for comment. Daryl Turner, a police officer who heads the union, said last month that local leaders were at fault for not containing the unrest.

The continued violence took place just hours after lawmakers in Washington heard testimony about what’s transpired in Portland in recent months. Some of those arrested are linked to Antifa, a far-left anarcho-communist group that openly espouses violence.

Kyle Shideler, director and senior analyst for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism for the Center for Security Policy, told officials that Antifa’s goal “is to use physical violence and intimidation to terrorize American citizens to disengage them from the political process.”

“Claiming that Antifa is too disorganized to understand should not be an acceptable excuse for law enforcement—federal, state, or local—to tolerate Antifa’s private street war to overthrow the constitution,” Shideler added later.

“Like their predecessors in the Weather Underground and Red Army Faction, Antifa will continue to escalate its behavior unless it is checked. There will be more attacks, and rioting techniques will continue to grow in capability and in sophistication, their cadres will grow, and there will be more autonomous zones for increased periods of time, and more Americans of all political persuasions will be terrorized.”

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Rioters in Portland Assault Officers, Set Fire to Police Union Building

August 5, 2020

https://www.theepochtimes.com/..._stm_source=smartech

Another riot broke out in Portland late Tuesday as a mob broke into and set fire to a police union building.

Unrest in Oregon’s largest city has unfolded nightly since late May.

The crowd of several hundred arrived outside the Portland Police Association’s office and used vehicles and fencing to block off the road outside the building. Rioters started vandalizing the office with graffiti while others pulled plywood off of doors and windows....”

That can't be! I thought the rioting was going to end when the federal agents stood down...

/sarcasm mode off/

Note that local police had to deal with the "mostly peaceful protest."

In Utah, arson is a justified reason to use deadly force. I don’t understand why these terrorists are getting away with burning down structures.

We are witnessing the “Neville Chamberlain” of our time with the Democrat party. They have been infiltrated and are rotting from the inside in the name of social justice. It amazes me that the leadership of Portland is shocked that a new riot broke out after the withdrawal of federal agents. A democratic socialist is still a Marxist regardless of the softer marketing label being applied. There is no appeasing the Marxist mob! This great country will end up going one way or the other.

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Another riot broke out in Portland late Tuesday as a mob broke into and set fire to a police union building.

In my mind, this is the equivalent of saying, "Mistakes were made.."

Someone started the riot (probably planned) and someone started the fire. It didn't just happen because the cosmos ordained it. Arrest the whole lot of them, and start charging them all with the crime.

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Originally posted by dking271:
We are witnessing the “Neville Chamberlain” of our time with the Democrat party. They have been infiltrated and are rotting from the inside in the name of social justice. It amazes me that the leadership of Portland is shocked that a new riot broke out after the withdrawal of federal agents. A democratic socialist is still a Marxist regardless of the softer marketing label being applied. There is no appeasing the Marxist mob! This great country will end up going one way or the other.

Non causa fallacy. Dear Portland leadership, the federal agents weren't the reason for the riots.

And I think Neville Chamberlain is a good parallel here.

Rudy Giuliani:

..."This organization is this close to being able to be designated as a domestic terrorist organization," Giuliani told Just the News' David Brody in an episode of "The Pod's Honest Truth" podcast released Wednesday.

In May, President Trump announced that his administration would designate Antifa a domestic terrorist organization. The former mayor said the government has been investigating antifa for a longer period of time, so it has a stronger case against Antifa, but that the case against Black Lives Matter is building...

"You've got the beginnings of a pretty good case" that Black Lives Matter is a domestic terrorist group, Giuliani insisted.

"First of all, they're dedicated to hating America. Second, they're dedicated to tearing down most of the institutions, not only of our government but also of our society," Giuliani argued, mentioning "the family, and schools, and religious education and religion." Thirdly, "they have a pretty close connection with violence..."

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...organization-n758076

George Floyd was dead man walking before police even arrived. Defense attorneys are going to have a field day. This article lays it out very well without having to make any reaches.

Who Killed George Floyd?

Minneapolis has an unelected Charter Commission that gets to review things from the City Council.

The Charter Commission rebuked the city council with its final 10-5 vote to shoot down a ballot measure in November that would have allowed them to “abolish the police.”

In a 10-5 vote, the Minneapolis Charter Commission decided Wednesday to block a controversial policing proposal from the November ballot by invoking its right to take more time to review it.

“We have an obligation to make sure that what is going on the ballot gives the voters an informed choice, that they can make a decision in a thoughtful way,” said Charter Commissioner Andrew Kozak, adding that he didn’t think the proposal accomplished that.

It could still come before voters next year . But the commission’s action to keep it off this year’s ballot dealt a major setback to activists and City Council members who have worked to transform Minneapolis’ public safety system following the police killing of George Floyd.

So what’s next? As the KARE11 report above notes, the charter commission can’t keep a measure off the ballot forever. If the city council persists — and if they can override Mayor Jacob Frey’s pledged veto — they can put their abolish-the-police plan on next year’s ballot.

Perhaps by that time they’ll actually have a plan, but by that time they’ll also be on the ballot themselves. They’d be rolling the dice that Minneapolis is as extreme as they are, rather than just disinclined to take municipal election seriously until now. That should provide everyone with a moment of clarity.

https://hotair.com/archives/ed...olish-pd-referendum/

Who were the 5 on the council that agreed?

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
George Floyd was dead man walking before police even arrived. Defense attorneys are going to have a field day. This article lays it out very well without having to make any reaches.

Who Killed George Floyd?

The mob will not care what the truth is about the death of George Floyd. They just want an excuse to riot.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
George Floyd was dead man walking before police even arrived. Defense attorneys are going to have a field day. This article lays it out very well without having to make any reaches.

Who Killed George Floyd?

The mob will not care what the truth is about the death of George Floyd. They just want an excuse to riot.

flashguy

True. But if one if not all of these officers gets even a reduced charge Mpls. Will burn again.
I don’t see how they are going to get convictions on the three much less Chauvin. Governor Walz has been rather quiet lately about Covid or anything else. He’s discovered being a leader is a bit more than writing frivolous orders about wearing masks and lockdowns.

Texas has a similar law, but when I took my CHL class 7 years the instructor said it had to be your house / property that you were defending and he joked "thats why you always keep a full gas can handy".

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
In Utah, arson is a justified reason to use deadly force. I don’t understand why these terrorists are getting away with burning down structures.

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
George Floyd was dead man walking before police even arrived. Defense attorneys are going to have a field day. This article lays it out very well without having to make any reaches.

Who Killed George Floyd?

The mob will not care what the truth is about the death of George Floyd. They just want an excuse to riot.

flashguy

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
In Utah, arson is a justified reason to use deadly force. I don’t understand why these terrorists are getting away with burning down structures.

exactly right. But these are dem towns with dem District Attorneys. If a cop or citizen were to use lethal force on a fire bomber they are at the mercy of being charged and investigated by the Democrat party. Considering the already political charged prosecutions we have been witnessing I wouldn't want to be the first guy to go down that road either.

Hell, LEO's to include Border Patrol, and many local cops have been shooting bad guys for throwing rocks for decades with little issue in the courts. I was thinking what you were thinking watching the cops in Chicago, including one of our own Sigforum members, when they were getting pelted by rocks and frozen water bottles. Yeah the cops could kill those idiots too but....

The terrorist in Portland are no longer focused on the Federal Court House, they are now focused on the Portland Police buildings and surrounding neighborhoods.

They didn’t like what this lady had to say.
Bit of mixed message as at times they were pulling her away from the house, and at other instances yelling at her to get back in her house.

Blinding people with lasers appears to be a favorite activity for this Democrat voting block.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:
Bunch of bad drivers out there.

It is laughable, each time a vehicle goes through an area of protest, all the protesters scream, they were trying to run people over.

Now let’s think about that.
A street full of people, and you want us to believe the intent was to run people over?

That’s absurd, if there was intent to run people over, there would be people run over.

Yep, when you have video of cars and trucks on sidewalks or driving through parks to run down this filth, then the term 'attack' might be appropriate. Until then they're just stupid morons standing in a road in violation of the law.

if they're not in a marked crosswalk...

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
George Floyd was dead man walking before police even arrived. Defense attorneys are going to have a field day. This article lays it out very well without having to make any reaches.

Who Killed George Floyd?

The mob will not care what the truth is about the death of George Floyd.

flashguy

Just like with Michael Brown, where the evidence was conclusive that he was the aggressor and that Darren Wilson's story was square. And all the "hands up, don't shoot" witnesses recant the story.

Funny how these things have a way of repeating themselves.