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The house of cards will fall, its the only way the Dems and the ignorant will ever learn there lesson, the hard way.
I gag when I watch our local news and the politicians they interview.
NEVER blame the problems on the perpetrators, always on the gun,society,and whites and other states.Of course the police even though they are hog tied in trying to do there job.
Can't lie, or pursue in cars or on foot. Hey, lets build a monument to the gang bangers and put the Cops in jail, that should do the trick.

I vote the CPD call off sick for about a month.
Lets get it over with, I can't stand the death by a thousand cuts we endure around here daily!
 
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All I see on tv is blacks stealing from stores, big time thievery and jumping out of cars firing at people, shooting at ballgames. We don’t need gun control, we need thug control.

It’s blacks doing this yet no one calls them out!
I don’t hear blacks condemning these actions so they must approve or just don’t care.

What do black forum members think? Am I off base?

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The house of cards will fall, its the only way the Dems and the ignorant will ever learn there lesson, the hard way.
I gag when I watch our local news and the politicians they interview.
NEVER blame the problems on the perpetrators, always on the gun,society,and whites and other states.Of course the police even though they are hog tied in trying to do there job.
Can't lie, or pursue in cars or on foot. Hey, lets build a monument to the gang bangers and put the Cops in jail, that should do the trick.

I vote the CPD call off sick for about a month.
Lets get it over with, I can't stand the death by a thousand cuts we endure around here daily!


Ahhh, Armored, so much to say about your post.
First- 110% spot on! You hit the nail right on the head.

The problem with the house of cards falling, the rats leave the sinking ship... Look at all the Libs leaving California, New York and Here. They're going somewhere, and it's not to another Liberal Utopia. Did I mention that they are bringing their Liberal Utopian Voting Ways with them?

The politicians... What can I say that you already haven't? I just find it funny that they are "clueless" about why the escalating violence in their cities. Shocking, ain't it?!? Especially after they pandered to them last summer during the "mostly peaceful" protests.

Yep, change the foot pursuit policy because someone got shot by the Police. But don't mention anything about WHY was a 13 year old out at that time shooting at passing cars. Vilify the Police responding to a call of shots fired, vilify the "shot-spotter" technology. Say nothing about how dear old mommy "liked" multiple posts on the "lil killa" faction of the Latin Kings Facebook page, which happened to be the same faction that the kid was in. Say nothing that the adult that the kid was with never gave up the kids real name. Say nothing that dearest mommy didn't know that her shitstain of a son was dead for 2-3 days...

Yell at the police and our horrible clearance rate for shootings and homicdes, but make no mention that the victims of the last three mass shootings aren't willing to say a fucking word to the police.

But remember that the Columbus Statue was the root of all the "institutional racism" in the city.

..."put the Cops in jail"... I was just at a going away party for one of my friends in the ASA's office. The memo came out from kimmy Foxx, down to the Juvenile section and "Public Integrity" section. They're going to let the juveniles go, and prusue charges against the officers if the officers lie to the juvenile. (And you think CPD is hemorrhaging people, the ASA's office is just as bad! All the good ones are sprinting for the exit door! And NO ONE wants to take the job!)

Feel like taking the family downtown any time soon for any reason?

Armored- Here's the problem- with all of the shit that's going on, do you know who's going to suffer? YOU and YOUR FAMILY.
Yeah, the decent people in the city are going to get royaly screwed.
If you're not a victim of a crime between now and then, how much do you think your house is going to be worth when you try to bail out of here?

Again, these problems aren't just going on here in Chicago. Look at all the other liberal cities!


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I just saw where George Soros gave another $1 million to his "Color of change" PAC. They are a defund the police organization.

I will continue to pray that Soros catches some horrible disease and dies spitting blood. And soon too. Before he finishes destroying the country. Regards 18DAI


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America Is Only One Step Away From A South African-Style Social Implosion

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...yle-social-implosion


On the global news front I have been watching one event with special attention, mainly because it seems like almost no one else is – I am speaking of course about the social and economic collapse in South Africa that has been escalating over the past couple weeks. What is strange to me is that certain parallels between South Africa and the US are being summarily ignored.

Basically, the South African situation is a more exaggerated version of what is happening in America, and we need to consider if it is merely a preview of future events as the extra financial protections in the US begin to fall away.

South Africa’s government under the ANC (African National Congress) was already going full communist in 2018-2019 before the covid pandemic. Under proposed amendments to the constitution, they demanded that “reparations” be taken from white farmers in the form of land grabs, which would then be redistributed to black citizens.

This is the classic critical race theory argument – That because colonialism once existed, all beneficiaries and their supposed descendants owe dues to the descendants of indigenous people who lost their lands. The problem is, only the descendants of WHITE colonists are required to pay dues.

This is exactly the same path that socialists/Marxists in the Democratic Party are pursuing in the US, with some states and cities demanding reparations for blacks be written into law because of slavery nearly 200 years ago. The reparations movement is tiny, but like all other social justice initiatives it is gaining power because politicians and corporations are supporting it artificially. Why? That’s easy: It’s all about divide and conquer.

I think my take on it is simplified, but I feel this needs to be said because CRT and social justice lunatics tend to over-complicate issues in order to distract from certain fundamental realities. Black and brown people invaded each other’s lands and enslaved their neighbors for thousands of years before white people ever showed up on the scene. White people were made slaved within certain civilizations for many centuries as well, and yes, it was just as bad for them as it was for black slaves in America. Slavery and colonialism has NEVER been relegated to only one race or ethnicity. This is historic fact.

But, that’s all forgotten in the bizarre justifications of critical race theorists. Why are white people the only people that are supposed to pay reparations when the whole world has been killing each other for land and resources since the beginning of recorded history?

Frankly, if your ancestors lost a bunch of land centuries ago to colonists, then perhaps they should have fought harder for it. You don’t get to suddenly wave your hand and magically claim it back centuries later by default through government enforced eminent domain just because your ancestors sucked at self defense. Go back in time and tell your great-great-great-grandparents to “Get Good.”

Of course, today’s communists don’t really fight for anything, at least not directly. I might respect them a little if they did. Rather, they loudly whine that they are “victims” even though they are not, and then demand they be given free stuff for life even though they never earned it. And, since free stuff has to be taken from somewhere, the people that have things are attacked through color of law even when they did nothing wrong and earned every cent they own.

Communists steal from others through government proxy and by claiming victim group status. They work hand-in-hand with the very politicians and corporate oligarchs they say they despise. The governments and corporations do it because they can use the Marxist mob as a social weapon to strike fear in their ideological adversaries (conservatives), and the SJWs do it because they can feed on the scraps from the big boy’s table and use government to forcefully redistribute wealth into their own pockets. It’s kind of a win-win, at least for a while. Eventually the low level commies get nailed to a wall or sent to a gulag when they are no longer useful, but that’s a tale for another time…

As international outrage developed over the proposed land confiscation mandates and accusations of reverse racism started to spread, the ANC dialed back their rhetoric and adjusted legislation to confiscate land that was “abandoned, unused or posed safety risks”. Let’s set aside the fact that these requirements are arbitrary and could still be abused by the government to take away land from white owners; for now we just need to acknowledge that racial tensions were high in a country which has been working hard to deal with its recent segregationist history. The social justice communists made things much worse, not better, as is always the case.

As we saw last summer with the $1 Billion in damages caused by the “mostly peaceful” BLM riots, racial conflict is an effective weapon for the elites to create chaos. After all, BLM received most of its initial funding through the Ford Foundation and George Soros’ Open Society Foundation. They are a fabricated movement built around false critical race theory claims, but they are enough of a movement to enact violence on a nationwide scale.

Covid Lockdowns And Vaccine Totalitarianism
The South African government’s response to covid is brutal and ongoing. The lockdowns are some of the most strict in the world with curfews, zero gatherings indoors or outdoors, alcohol bans and restrictions on travel through certain areas. A large majority of the population has been blocked from participation in the normal economy. The public has been awaiting economic relief for over a year, but the hype and fear mongering around the “Delta variant” has dashed all hope. Lockdowns returned in full force in June.

There is NO EVIDENCE that the Delta Variant is as deadly or more deadly than the original iteration of covid, and covid’s overall IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) is a paltry 0.26% according to the CDC and other independent studies. Meaning, draconian lockdowns are still being implemented over a virus that 99.74% of people will easily survive.

Riots in Johannesburg and elsewhere erupted, with over 200 dead and billions in property damage and theft. In this case, it is hard to outright condemn the looting because the government continues to block citizens from earning a living in the name of stopping covid.

This is on top of South Africa’s already high poverty level and the fact that, unlike the US with its world reserve currency, South Africa does not have the same ability to print stimulus checks from thin air to placate the masses and hide the damage.

Not surprisingly the ANC refuses to acknowledge that the primary cause of the riots has been their own lockdown policies. Instead, they have blamed the the crisis on the arrest of former president Jacob Zuma for contempt of court charges as the trigger. This may have added gasoline to the fire, but it was not the cause. When the government is actively sabotaging the ability of millions of people to work and feed their families the only other option left for most is theft, or revolution.

Supply chains in the country have been completely disrupted and the only retail outlets with stock are those protected by the military or those protected by business owners armed with guns and baseball bats. Only 6% of the population is allowed to own firearms under South Africa’s gun control bureaucracy and red tape. The government has a near monopoly on force and it is unlikely that the mobs will change much in terms of policy, but they do make life hell for the rest of the population.

The civil unrest in this region is, in my opinion, a preview of what is to come in the US and other western nations. We have already seen riots in France, Italy and other parts of the western world over legislation that would make the experimental mRNA vaccines mandatory through vaccine passports. I would point out that the liberty media has warned OVER AND OVER that governments would try to enforce vaccine passports and make vaccines mandatory. We were called “conspiracy theorists” for this; now we are proven right once again.

Covid laws will lead to unrest in the US, just as they have led to unrest in South Africa. The Biden Administration continues to push for total vaccination of Americans despite all science running contrary to his initiatives and claims. As I outlined in my article ‘Biden’s Vaccine Strike Force Plan Stinks Of Desperation’, the facts on covid do not support vaccine mandates or passports, and this is why around half the US population continues to defy the restrictions and refuses to take the jab. The only reason why medical tyranny has been beaten back in the US is because around 50% of US households are armed. We are not yet South Africa because of our gun rights, so be thankful for the millions of gun owners out there creating a deterrent to tyranny.

The goals of the establishment will remain, however. They are going to continue to ignore the fact that Covid’s death rate is a mere 0.26% of those with confirmed infections. They are going to continue to ignore the fact that natural immunity is a part of herd immunity. They are going to continue to ignore the fact that covid infections and deaths dropped off a cliff in January of 2021 well before the vaccines were rolled out in the US. And, they are going to continue to ignore the fact that the experimental mRNA vaccines have no long term testing to prove they are safe for humans.

The science is unimportant to them. Covid is only a tool for gaining control. They do not care about public safety in the slightest.

Economic Decline And The Dark Cloud Of Inflation
There are some differences between the US and South Africa in terms of motivations and economy, but the gap is not as wide and some might think. The US is exhibiting similar signs of decline in terms of poverty, small business closures and inflation.

South Africa’s unemployment rate and poverty rate appears much higher, but the US has the ability to hide real poverty through temporary stimulus measures, welfare programs and eviction moratoriums. When the covid checks run out and evictions return, we are going to see a massive spike in poverty levels in the US once again. Furthermore, core price inflation has hit 30 year highs due to trillions in money printing and dollar devaluation, along with struggling supply chains. For now, increased demand created by covid checks is giving the illusion that the economy is in recovery, but just as home sales are now plunging after a short term spike, so too will demand in most sectors of the economy.

This does not mean that prices will fall with demand, however. For example, lumber prices are in decline as demand lessens, but after rising by 300% in some areas they have a long way to go and will probably never go back to their pre-pandemic levels. We are now seeing the same dynamic happening in housing sales vs. house prices. When demand is falling but price inflation continues to rise or remains high, this is a sign of a stagflationary crisis. And if this is the case, then the US economy will falter dramatically in the coming months, leading to poverty levels similar to South Africa. Money printing is a temporary fix that leads to longer term disasters.

It is also only a matter of time before a covid variant (like the Delta variant) is used as an excuse to bring back lockdowns across the country. And make no mistake, they will attempt harsher and harsher mandates similar to those in South Africa in order to intimidate people into submitting to the jab and the passports. At this stage, the US government will have not only mass riots on their hands, but also an armed rebellion. Undoubtedly, supply chains will crash if they have not already been disrupted by lockdowns or a related financial crisis.

The question at that point will be this: Who will rebuild? If it’s the elites and the covid cult, then freedom will disappear forever. If it’s liberty minded people, then there might be a chance to bring our civilization back from the brink. Everything depends on who is left standing after the chaos subsides.

South Africa is a warning to Americans: Do not get too comfortable. Do not get complacent. Be ready for the next shoe to drop. Prepare accordingly, and understand that a fight is coming.

The establishment will place its bets that the unrest and economic disaster will create manufactured consent. They believe that the public will be sufficiently desperate and will beg for totalitarianism as a solution. Do not find yourself among the desperate, and if you can, organize your community to weather the storm.

Finally, always remember who the people are that caused this mess in the first place. Rioters and looters are going to be a problem, but they are not the true enemy. The people behind the curtain need to be dealt with if we are ever going to find peace again.


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Thanks for the post. A good and interesting read.
 
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wcb6092: I was just going to post that article here... I'm glad you beat me to it. Thanks!

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This is exactly the same path that socialists/Marxists in the Democratic Party are pursuing in the US


I sure hope enough of us have the will and wherewithal to resist before we allow them to destroy the greatest country on Earth.



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Six or seven years ago, I first mentioned in a thread the end goal of the left to nationalize the local police. A sort of TSA style union force.

The notion received some scoffs from the “policing is no more dangerous than being a safe salesman” crowd.

Each time we have a thread about wide spread gun confiscation, I always tell the neighsayers that the local cops won’t be part of it in free areas. It is always met with but....but....but....

Anyone with a functioning brain stem that can apply a small modicum of logic has to wonder why the left is so desperate to destroy the institution of law enforcement in this country. The why behind it all. It’s simple. The government comes to the rescue. They load your locals with out of state people who have no ties to the community. Who have no qualms of voting the right way, no qualms of Jack booting the right way. No qualms to “just follow orders”.

That is the goal and has been for quite some time. You can bicker about your ideas of what your local police may or may not do. But, the left has a plan and you’re not a friendly in this plan.




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Six or seven years ago, I first mentioned in a thread the end goal of the left to nationalize the local police. A sort of TSA style union force.

The notion received some scoffs from the “policing is no more dangerous than being a safe salesman” crowd.

Each time we have a thread about wide spread gun confiscation, I always tell the neighsayers that the local cops won’t be part of it in free areas. It is always met with but....but....but....

Anyone with a functioning brain stem that can apply a small modicum of logic has to wonder why the left is so desperate to destroy the institution of law enforcement in this country. The why behind it all. It’s simple. The government comes to the rescue. They load your locals with out of state people who have no ties to the community. Who have no qualms of voting the right way, no qualms of Jack booting the right way. No qualms to “just follow orders”.

That is the goal and has been for quite some time. You can bicker about your ideas of what your local police may or may not do. But, the left has a plan and you’re not a friendly in this plan.


And if there is any local force left they will become a paper tiger. The feds will come down on them hard for "civil rights" violations, while the Nationalized Police will be beyond reproach. This country was founded on a limited Federal government. Our founders lived through this already.


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I’ll add to Jerry’s post above that I am sickened at how quickly the people in this country gave up freedom throughout this whole pandemic. A nationalized police force is exactly what the Marxist left want, and they are marching toward it. It is great to see some of the states push back, because they didn’t count on that level of resistance. Benjamin Franklin was famously quoted as saying, “Where there is liberty, there is my country”. I am a Tennessean until this state proves it is not worthy of my support, I will remain. I can say assuredly, unlike South Africans many of us folks won’t be running out of ammo.


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Six or seven years ago, I first mentioned in a thread the end goal of the left to nationalize the local police. A sort of TSA style union force.

The notion received some scoffs from the “policing is no more dangerous than being a safe salesman” crowd.

Each time we have a thread about wide spread gun confiscation, I always tell the neighsayers that the local cops won’t be part of it in free areas. It is always met with but....but....but....

Anyone with a functioning brain stem that can apply a small modicum of logic has to wonder why the left is so desperate to destroy the institution of law enforcement in this country. The why behind it all. It’s simple. The government comes to the rescue. They load your locals with out of state people who have no ties to the community. Who have no qualms of voting the right way, no qualms of Jack booting the right way. No qualms to “just follow orders”.

That is the goal and has been for quite some time. You can bicker about your ideas of what your local police may or may not do. But, the left has a plan and you’re not a friendly in this plan.


Spot on! It's worth noting too that the larger the agency, the less accountable it is. If the Left gets it's wish (a national police agency that replaces all state and local departments), we'll just have a bigger version of the FBI. More of this shit on all levels:

"The first attack on U.S. soil for which ISIS claimed responsibility — a 2015 shooting in Garland, Texas — was instigated by the FBI, according to an investigation by CBS' "60 Minutes" and government documents obtained by an attorney involved in the case. In a macabre twist, an undercover FBI agent who encouraged one of the shooters to "tear up Texas" was also physically present at the scene of the crime, mere feet away from the shooters. Prior to that, a separate informant was paid $132,000 by the FBI to pretend for three years to be friends with the future shooter. When the man found out his supposed friend had taped more than 1,500 hours of their conversations on behalf of the intelligence agency, he withdrew from his religious community and eventually fell into online religious extremism. An FBI trainer suggested in an interview with "60 Minutes" that, had the attack been bigger, the agency's numerous ties to the shooter would have led to a congressional investigation."

https://www.salon.com/2017/03/...on-u-s-soil_partner/


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Six or seven years ago, I first mentioned in a thread the end goal of the left to nationalize the local police. A sort of TSA style union force.


I remember that, and it's also been discussed here and there in this thread. It’s coming.


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OK, take it easy, please. Let's save the rhetoric.
 
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Yeah, too far. I dialed it back.


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Last June Portland’s Mayor Ted Wheeler, who is also the police commissioner, decided to put an end to the Gun Violence Reduction Team (GVRT) as part of an effort to reimagine policing. The $6 million that would have gone to the team was redirected ” toward communities of color.”

After the GVRT was cut, the number of shootings and murders in Portland skyrocketed. Last September there were 110 shootings in Portland, a 243% jump compared to a year earlier. At the end of the year, Portland had more than 900 shootings, double the previous year.

The spike in violence continued into 2021

In early March, Mayor Wheeler announced he was seeking funding for a new GVRT albeit with a different name and some new oversight.

If approved, the city would restore nearly all of the functions – though not the name – of the city’s Gun Violence Reduction Team, a program that was disbanded in 2020 in response to longtime community demands.

“We are not bringing it back,” Wheeler said. “To be clear, the part about GVRT that was objected to by many members of the community was that there wasn’t community oversight. There wasn’t clarity in terms of what the engagement was. There wasn’t the collection and the transparent dissemination of data.”

The new plan would create an independent watchdog to oversee the new program that will bring back many of GVRT’s functions.

One of the qualifications for the new team is that applicants show the, “ability to identify and dismantle institutional and systemic racism in the bureau’s responses to gun violence.”

Portland can’t find officers willing to take positions on the new Focused Initiative Team. A total of 14 opening were announced in May. More than two months later, there have been only four applicants
 
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Clearly squaring the lie of Leftism with the truth of reality has driven these people mad.



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I read this AM (On another board) that the Portland PD can't find enough officers who want to be on the GVRT or whatever "woke" title its called, to field it.

Not surprised. Who would want to stick their neck out in that socialist paradise. For what? Regards 18DAI


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They will find some of the new guys to staff it. They always do. Something about the ability to wear your bb hat backwards and a pair of jeans.
 
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Exactly!
There's ALWAYS some young, dumb fool that thinks he knows more than the old-timer.

Here's the other way they get to staff the unit:
Reverse seniority

Units like GVRT need experienced officers that know what they're doing. Cops that aren't afraid of chasing bad guys down a dark alley in a bad neighborhood, also smart enough to know how to do it right. The right supervision and the right boss that will put his people above any political bullshit.

This "new and improved" unit, especially with any sort of "community oversight" won't attract any veterans that know how to do the job. But "The Brass" still wants that Unit running. So they put a bunch of new cops just off of probation, or "misfits" that don't fit in where they're at. The supervision ain't going to be much better.
Now it's the blind leading the blind... No one teaching anyone how to do stuff right. Whatever "productivity" they bring in will be "quantity" instead of any real "quality", nothing but smoke and mirrors.


But as Bulldog said, they sure the hell will look cool with a backwards baseball cap and jeans / 5-11 tacti-cool pants on, beard, "Grunt Style" t-shirts and a wad of dip in their mouth.


As Bulldog, Klusk or I how we know... Wink


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