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Biden: 'We must continue to speak Breonna Taylor’s name, support her family still in grieving, and never give up on ensuring the full promise of America for every American."

Kamala Harris: "Tonight, I’m thinking of Breonna Taylor’s family who is still grieving the loss of a daughter and sister.

We must never stop speaking Breonna’s name as we work to reform our justice system, including overhauling no-knock warrants."


https://www.breitbart.com/2020...mid-street-protests/


State Police on the scene

https://twitter.com/i/status/1308960469240213504


 
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Another episode of "This will make your morning a little brighter"!

BLM idiot lays down in front of a cop on a bicycle, he pushes the bike over his head.

https://twitter.com/KittyLists.../1309022991062364161





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I watched AG Cameron’s press conference yesterday on his findings. Still to come are the Feds report on possible Civil Rights issues.
In responding to reporters’questions, AG Cameron made the point he was not going to release Grand Jury material, and was going to hold his information close to the belt to preclude tainting further ongoing work or Officers’ legal proceedings.
Later in the day, as expected, Gov. Bershear and the Mayor wanted the materials released.
I was favorably impressed by Cameron; stand your ground, Sir.
At the 11:00 PM newscast, the lead story was the shooting of the two LMPD officers, followed by their condition, one critical and 1 still in surgery. Prayers for a full recovery for both men.
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Was she committing a crime at that time? Was her boyfriend committing a crime at that time? .

Your position is that a warrant cannot be served and a suspect cannot be arrested unless they are actually committing a crime during the moment of the arrest. Think about what you are saying.



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Is KSP there? They have a reputation of not messing around.


That's an understatement...lol
I have seen KSP beat the FUCK out of a guy INSIDE a hospital when he started resisting being strapped to the gurney.

No complaint filed, the nurses didn't blink an eye
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absolut18

I'll try to explain.
Now this is coming from someone who's done this a few hundred times. Knock, No-Knock.
Ill Start at the beginning, and one of the very things this country we live in is based upon- The United States Constitution.
Scroll on down to the "Amendment" part, go to #4, which states:

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”


I "The Police", can't just kick your door in on my own. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.
***HOWEVER*** I can if I have a good reason!

I sit my ass down in front of a computer and type out a Search Warrant. I present all the facts (That's things that have happened and that can be proven ie - evidence; video or observations from surveillance, documents, narcotics from past buys...) on this Search Warrant. Then (depending on the situation), my boss gets to look at it. After that, a States / District Attorney looks at it too. They'll tell me if any changes need to be made to the body of my Warrant. Once they give me a "thumbs up", I go see a dude(tte) in the Funny Black Robe called a Judge.
(S)He's a legal expert. They review the warrant, and give the final approval so me and my merry men can go kick someone's door in and lock them up. It's not a case of "Ennie, Meeany, Miney, Mo, this door here has got to go" or "I've got nothing better to do at midnight..."

This is all 100% legal under the U.S Constitution. Look up just a little to where it says "...against unreasonable searches and seizures..." So the Founding Fathers even realized that there might be a point where the Government (ie The Police- and not the one with Sting) may need to search your property and effects. Look at that sentence again- see the word "UNREASONABLE"? That's where the Government DOES NOT get to kick your door in for, as you put it "Speeding". IIRC from one of my Law classes, The members of SCOTUS have gone over cases pertaining to the 4th Amendment more than any other Amendment.

Do a little reading about this on your own, check out a case that went to the Supreme Court in 1967 Katz v. United States 389 U.S. 347, Coolidge v. Hampshire 403 U.S. 443, Illinois v. Gates 462 U.S. 213 and Maryland v. Garrison, 480 U.S. 79

If you care to brush up on Knock / No-Knock, peruse Richards v. Wisconsin, 520 U.S. 358 and Wilson v. Arkansas, 514 U.S. 927

Now that I've roughly explained how "The Government" gets to boot your door down at 12:40 in the AM, it's time to move on to the next portion of this conversation:
THAT BITCH WAS NOT INNOCENT.

She may not have been the person who fired a shot at the Officers conducting the Search Warrant, but that bitch got what was coming to her: DEAD.
The unfortunate part was that it was at the hands of a Police Officer.

This may sound harsh, and I may come off as an asshole (which I admittedly am), but I've been playing this "Cops and Robbers" game for quite some time now, and in a pretty busy and bad place. The one thing that I learned early on in my career is "The game may be cold, but it's fair".
She was a bad guy. Bad guys don't really live to see retirement and collect a 401K and the gold watch. Or they land up in prison.

There's many pages of evidence, surveillance and wiretaps (all legal when a Search Warrant is obtained) supporting my claim that she was a Bad Guy.

Now, in normal circumstances, Her Boyfriend could be charged with murder because HIS ACTIONS of being a Bad Guy and firing at the Police were the Proximate Cause which lead up to her death. But this is 2020 and the country, or at least parts of it (mostly the parts controlled by Democrats) are all fucked up.


At the end of May, beginning of June, somewhere between getting pelted with rocks and bottles, getting shot at, and "motherfucked" every way you could imaging, I had a conversation with a super angry, but rational gentleman. He was an older black guy. Former US Army Veteran, College educated, and raised a family, and was proud of the fact that he, and everyone in his family were never arrested.
He stated something along the lines of "THAT"S THE NEXT BLACK JESUS?!?! THAT MOTHERFUCKER? THAT'S WHO THEY WANT TO PUT UP ON THE CROSS?" talking about George Floyd. "At least pick one that aint a dope dealin' junkie felon!"

That stuck with me...
If I ever run into him again, I'm buying him a beer!

Now I want you to think about all this rioting and civil unrest all over the country. Pick any of the "causes"; Floyd, Grey, Brown, Taylor, the kid that CPD shot in Englwood, or Pilsn that sparked off riots... Look at their background, not what cnn, msnbc, cbs or any of the other "propaganda" from the likes of Geraldo Rivera spewing the bullshit of "she was America's sweetheart"... take a good look at their background.
Then decide for yourself.


Good post. Thanks for the background.

Has her boyfriend been charged with anything? Did he have prior arrests or convictions? Was it even legal for him to be in possession of a firearm?
 
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Where can I point someone to go read the warrant application and reports? My wife’s hippie friend doesn’t deal in facts and is an emotion based person. I was wanting to show her a website where ,if she chooses to, she can see the facts that this woman wasn’t a good person.



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Where can I point someone to go read the warrant application and reports? My wife’s hippie friend doesn’t deal in facts and is an emotion based person. I was wanting to show her a website where ,if she chooses to, she can see the facts that this woman wasn’t a good person.


https://www.yumpu.com/en/docum...or-summary-redacted1
 
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Where can I point someone to go read the warrant application and reports?...

This may be of help.

https://www.yumpu.com/en/docum...or-summary-redacted1



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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Is KSP there? They have a reputation of not messing around.


That's an understatement...lol
I have seen KSP beat the FUCK out of a guy INSIDE a hospital when he started resisting being strapped to the gurney.

No complaint filed, the nurses didn't blink an eye
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Everything that’s going on you can thank the KEA and teachers unions for. They got that idiot Beshear elected. Every time you see a cop shot, building burned, you can thank a teacher.




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Why hasn't he been charged with attempted murder?

"A suspect accused in shooting two Louisville police officers during protests Wednesday evening has also been identified. Larynzo Johnson, 26, has been charged with wanton endangerment and assault of a police officer. He will be arraigned Friday."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lou...cer-shooting-suspect


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Were drugs found on the premise? No.

Was the man shooting the gun convicted of a crime? No.

Have any of us done wrong in our past, but are not currently guilty of a crime? Yes.

Again, knock down anyone’s door on this forum... and I would expect the same response at that hour. The response was justified IMO.


Just read the latest posts this morning, God this is some stupid shit here. Unbelievable Roll Eyes



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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

NO truer words been spoken.

The teachers and their union did this to Kentucky.

So, it you live in Kentucky, thank a teacher for getting two police officers shot!

Thank them for the rioting also.


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Why hasn't he been charged with attempted murder?...


"... has been charged with wanton endangerment..."

I'll admit to maybe being petty.

The charge against Larynzo Johnson, being the same as the 3 counts of same charges in the indictment of former Officer Brett Hankison, "looks" to me as a slap in the face of the 2 officers who were shot by Larynzo Johnson. (and a slap to the court decision to not charge the other three officers in the Taylor case

His actions were (likely) premeditated and actionable, in the realm of attempted homicide, with malice.

And if that is the case, it further points to despicable people in the State of Kentuky's judicial system. And they need walking papers.




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Where can I point someone to go read the warrant application and reports? My wife’s hippie friend doesn’t deal in facts and is an emotion based person. I was wanting to show her a website where ,if she chooses to, she can see the facts that this woman wasn’t a good person.



Officer Tatum has the information on his website.
https://theofficertatum.com/

He was one of the first to report on this with factual information.

I was hearing information from a local source, and it was matching up with what he was saying.

I hope this helps you.


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Another episode of "This will make your morning a little brighter"!

BLM idiot lays down in front of a cop on a bicycle, he pushes the bike over his head.

https://twitter.com/KittyLists.../1309022991062364161


The best part of that was the clip below it of Governor Noem hunting pheasants.
 
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The best part of that was the clip below it of Governor Noem hunting pheasants.


The worst part of that series was the police being hit in back of head with a bat, and having to pepper spray in the general direction instead of shooting that guy 15 times. Is that really where we've come to? Damn.

https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1309019515628523521?s=20

Sorry - can't seem to copy link directly to tweet, it was posted about 0200 9/24 though.



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The fact that any citizen of this country, feels it's ok to take a swing for the fences with a baseball bat at another humans head, from behind, is disgusting.

To do it to a police officer is almost beyond contempt.

This individual needs to be arrested and charged with attempted murder.




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Every time you see a cop shot, building burned, you can thank a teacher.


I'll let my sister in law who is a teacher in Berea, and my wife who is one in Virginia, both Christians, conservatives, and Trump supporters know.


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Oh, just cool it. You know he has a point.
 
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