The live feed is kind of a snoozer. It is kind of interesting when the camera guy focusses in on the brass knuckles on the road, the frozen water bottles and the occasional 8 ball. It seems the cops are building rapport with some of the protestors.

I’m tired of these people. Time for the grownups to take charge.

Looks like Louisville was a little better prepared than Portland. I wonder why...

I hope that Anarchist bitch with Food not Bombs that parked the U-Haul gets arrested, but I won't hold my breath.

Food not Bombs is, what I like to call, a group of communist missionaries. They bring food to the ghetto and then spread the good word of Anarcho-Communism.

So, did the U-Hall driver commit a chargeable crime? I'd like to think conspiracy to incite a riot, conspiracy to commit acts of domestic terrorism, and other Federal charges that go over the local D.A.'s head.

But is delivering banners, shields, umbrellas, and other "defensive" gear a crime? Clearly the intent is to provide materials to defend against the lawful use of force by police, or to assault police in a manner that is impervious to the non-lethal weapons the police are likely to use. But what if nothing legally classified as a weapon was distributed?

Lawyers please respond with your opinions. Busting open the sources of funding is essential to establishing a coordinated multi-state criminal organization that is subject to RICO statues.

In any case, the Feds should pick her up for conspiracy and question her about associates, financing, etc. She's not going to hold up very long when threatened with a long Federal prison term, and is offered a deal. FBI should examine her financial records with a microscope. She is clearly sloppy and completely inexperienced or she would have done something to prevent herself from being so easily connected to the U-Haul.

I saw the “shields” used offensively, thus, dangerous weapons. There were a number of funny sacks unloaded as well... could not see contents.

On the state level, for starters, charge her with Riot in the first degree (felony) and Inciting a Riot which is a class A misdemeanor.

Easy, low hanging fruit charges.

absolut18 clearly has no clue how decent sized drug operations work.

It is not uncommon for numerous folks to work together in dealing drugs. They have multiple locations to produce, then store the drugs, another to keep money and weapons, then the regular old place that they live. It is also not uncommon for folks to have different jobs pertaining to different parts of the operations. So while one may never actually see of touch the drugs they very well can run the money or do other jobs directly related to narcotics trafficking.

If you actually read the warrants and the 39 page report leading up to the warrants you will clearly understand they knew Breonna was a money runner and she was the person that rented the vehicles, used her vehicle, and did most of the providing for the operation. By her own voice on recorded jail phone calls she specifically talks about going to the TRAP HOUSE to get money. That there alone tells you there are multiple places and a single residence will not provide the officers all the evidence they need.

If you actually read the warrants the most important part of the warrant in regard to Breonna Taylor’s apartment is the listing that they were in search of DOCUMENTS related to drug trafficking along with the possibility of drugs and weapons etc. Simply requesting a warrant does not mean any and all things listed on the warrant will be there. If a search warrant was served on a suspects residence in a murder investigation and a body was listed on the warrant and a body was not found at the residence because it was dumped else where or hell the body was states away and never was near the suspects residence that does not mean there is not tons of evidence pertinent to the case that can be taken from the residence or the crime in question did not happen.

In these operations the DOCUMENTS are most likely to be at the main living residence and not the stash house or the trap house as to this is where folks have their bank statements, rental car agreements, etc. etc. because most of these things require a drivers license or ID which a person involved in dealing drugs is not going to put the stash or trap house address on.

The whole don’t shit where you eat kind of thing.

So because they did not find drugs in her main residence does not mean they weren’t dealing drugs.

It means it was a pretty decent sized operation especially when 4 locations were hit simultaneously. And yes the investigation and cases are on going on the other subjects involved.

As for the boyfriend he was initially arrested and charged for shooting the sergeant but KY has a very very strong castle doctrine and that charge was dismissed.

He admitted to hearing the knocking and that is why he grabbed the gun. He states he just heard knocking and nothing about Police.

The police LEGALLY ENTER because they have a no knock warrant, yes it was written and signed as a no knock warrant, but they knocked anyway.

They took the boyfriend at his word because it is very possible the knocking could be heard in the apartment but the words police may not have been. That right there is called reasonable doubt to which there can be none of for a conviction.
Again KY was a VERY strong castle doctrine.

It will be nice if all the details are released so more light is actually shed as to what was going on in the apartment but it will likely be awhile as this is still an active case in regard to the other targets of the connected warrants.

Of course none of the above details mean anything to the rioters nor peaceful protectors.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Of course none of the above details mean anything to the rioters nor peaceful protectors.

or absolut18

I wonder if our friend the U-Haul driver isn't already sweating a bit what with all the noise on social media. Could be she's nervous enough to tell authorities a lot of things, as long as she gets to do it in an outraged tone of voice.

absolut18 cannot grasp the facts
Some people can stand under a waterfall and not know they are wet
This bitch was living an evil lifestyle, and died for it

absolut18

I'll try to explain.
Now this is coming from someone who's done this a few hundred times. Knock, No-Knock.
Ill Start at the beginning, and one of the very things this country we live in is based upon- The United States Constitution.
Scroll on down to the "Amendment" part, go to #4, which states:

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”


I "The Police", can't just kick your door in on my own. That's a violation of the 4th Amendment.
***HOWEVER*** I can if I have a good reason!

I sit my ass down in front of a computer and type out a Search Warrant. I present all the facts (That's things that have happened and that can be proven ie - evidence; video or observations from surveillance, documents, narcotics from past buys...) on this Search Warrant. Then (depending on the situation), my boss gets to look at it. After that, a States / District Attorney looks at it too. They'll tell me if any changes need to be made to the body of my Warrant. Once they give me a "thumbs up", I go see a dude(tte) in the Funny Black Robe called a Judge.
(S)He's a legal expert. They review the warrant, and give the final approval so me and my merry men can go kick someone's door in and lock them up. It's not a case of "Ennie, Meeany, Miney, Mo, this door here has got to go" or "I've got nothing better to do at midnight..."

This is all 100% legal under the U.S Constitution. Look up just a little to where it says "...against unreasonable searches and seizures..." So the Founding Fathers even realized that there might be a point where the Government (ie The Police- and not the one with Sting) may need to search your property and effects. Look at that sentence again- see the word "UNREASONABLE"? That's where the Government DOES NOT get to kick your door in for, as you put it "Speeding". IIRC from one of my Law classes, The members of SCOTUS have gone over cases pertaining to the 4th Amendment more than any other Amendment.

Do a little reading about this on your own, check out a case that went to the Supreme Court in 1967 Katz v. United States 389 U.S. 347, Coolidge v. Hampshire 403 U.S. 443, Illinois v. Gates 462 U.S. 213 and Maryland v. Garrison, 480 U.S. 79

If you care to brush up on Knock / No-Knock, peruse Richards v. Wisconsin, 520 U.S. 358 and Wilson v. Arkansas, 514 U.S. 927

Now that I've roughly explained how "The Government" gets to boot your door down at 12:40 in the AM, it's time to move on to the next portion of this conversation:
THAT BITCH WAS NOT INNOCENT.

She may not have been the person who fired a shot at the Officers conducting the Search Warrant, but that bitch got what was coming to her: DEAD.
The unfortunate part was that it was at the hands of a Police Officer.

This may sound harsh, and I may come off as an asshole (which I admittedly am), but I've been playing this "Cops and Robbers" game for quite some time now, and in a pretty busy and bad place. The one thing that I learned early on in my career is "The game may be cold, but it's fair".
She was a bad guy. Bad guys don't really live to see retirement and collect a 401K and the gold watch. Or they land up in prison.

There's many pages of evidence, surveillance and wiretaps (all legal when a Search Warrant is obtained) supporting my claim that she was a Bad Guy.

Now, in normal circumstances, Her Boyfriend could be charged with murder because HIS ACTIONS of being a Bad Guy and firing at the Police were the Proximate Cause which lead up to her death. But this is 2020 and the country, or at least parts of it (mostly the parts controlled by Democrats) are all fucked up.


At the end of May, beginning of June, somewhere between getting pelted with rocks and bottles, getting shot at, and "motherfucked" every way you could imaging, I had a conversation with a super angry, but rational gentleman. He was an older black guy. Former US Army Veteran, College educated, and raised a family, and was proud of the fact that he, and everyone in his family were never arrested.
He stated something along the lines of "THAT"S THE NEXT BLACK JESUS?!?! THAT MOTHERFUCKER? THAT'S WHO THEY WANT TO PUT UP ON THE CROSS?" talking about George Floyd. "At least pick one that aint a dope dealin' junkie felon!"

That stuck with me...
If I ever run into him again, I'm buying him a beer!

Now I want you to think about all this rioting and civil unrest all over the country. Pick any of the "causes"; Floyd, Grey, Brown, Taylor, the kid that CPD shot in Englwood, or Pilsn that sparked off riots... Look at their background, not what cnn, msnbc, cbs or any of the other "propaganda" from the likes of Geraldo Rivera spewing the bullshit of "she was America's sweetheart"... take a good look at their background.
Then decide for yourself.

Is KSP there? They have a reputation of not messing around.

Lawyers and LEO. Serious question:

Is there anything problematic with the warrant being signed by the judge in January but not executed till March ?

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Is KSP there? They have a reputation of not messing around.

They are there but unfortunately they answer to the the Governor and well they aren’t going to be much help under this administration.

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Originally posted by ElToro:
Lawyers and LEO. Serious question:

Is there anything problematic with the warrant being signed by the judge in January but not executed till March ?

If that were the actual case that would be problematic.
Though fortunately in this case the Judge signed the warrant on March 12th and it was executed on March 13th.

https://reason.com/wp-content/...mXoIxkNxDlzSZohhDwrw

Not sure where you are getting the January date other than January dates of pole camera footage is mentioned in the information for the warrant.

It’s also worth noting that the officers who served the warrant had no direct knowledge of the investigation. There were multiple warrants to be served in this case. The officerS were simply assigned to serve the warrant. They served a valid warrant, signed by a judge, because a supervisor assigned them to do it.

Portland, federal police break up downtown protest of Breonna Taylor grand jury decision

https://www.oregonlive.com/por...d-jury-decision.html

A downtown Portland demonstration demanding police stop killing Black people came to an abrupt end Wednesday night after a handful of protesters targeted a police precinct with fire and rocks.

Police quickly extinguished the flames as they burned the edge of an awning. But soon after, someone threw a Molotov cocktail toward officers. Police ordered the hundreds of people gathered in honor of Breonna Taylor to leave, then used force to make people move. Federal officers helped.

Federal officers shot impact munitions on downtown streets a half-mile away from the federal courthouse that President Donald Trump pledged to protect.

The scene mirrored many July nights, when federal officers regularly and aggressively dispersed crowds outside the courthouse. Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, who oversees police, decried the federal forces and pledged not to coordinate with them during protests. In an email early Thursday, Portland police declined to immediately describe its level of coordination with federal forces. A spokesperson said that information would be released to the public later.

The night started hours after Kentucky’s top attorney announced earlier in the day that Louisville officers would not face charges in the killing of Taylor. Police fatally shot the 26-year-old Black emergency room technician in March after entering her home on a no-knock warrant.

Demonstrations took place throughout the U.S. and in several Oregon cities. In Portland, hundreds of people filled Southwest Third Avenue in front of the downtown Justice Center, despite the rain. Live videos showed a drum line played along to chants of “Whose life mattered? Breonna Taylor!"

Several Black women addressed the crowd from the steps of the Justice Center and encouraged people to vote and continue pressing for change.

As the speeches continued past 9 p.m., a smaller crowd started forming in front of the Second Avenue side of the Justice Center — the Central Precinct of the Portland police.

Portland police declared that gathering an “unlawful assembly shortly” before 10 p.m. It was unclear why. Most people remained focused on the speeches on the opposite side of the building.

Police warned people to leave Second Avenue, live videos showed. Dozens of officers then advanced on the crowd, using smoke and other devices to force people to move. At least one protester responded by throwing a firework toward police.

Demonstrators returned to the larger crowd on Third Avenue and police retreated. After officers left, many people streamed back to Second Avenue. Officers repeated warnings and labeled the gathering a “riot.” It was again unclear what actions led police to make the designation.

People did not immediately leave. Someone lit the awning of the police precinct on fire, according to police and live videos. Another person threw objects, which police later identified as rocks, that smashed windows.

Officers in riot gear rushed in. Someone threw an incendiary device toward officers, videos and police confirmed. Police ordered all people to leave a large section of downtown. Police and protesters faced off on Third Avenue and Main Street. The crowd chanted, “Breonna Taylor!”

Police eventually moved in on the crowd around 10:40 p.m. Portland police forced part of crowd several blocks away to the South Park Blocks.

Department of Homeland Security officers emerged around the same time near the federal courthouse. It was the first time in weeks that federal officers had policed downtown streets.

Federal officers formed a defensive line to block people on Third Avenue and Main Street. Officers at times set off smoke devices toward the crowd gathered nearby. Federal police then pressed west to Fourth Avenue.

Federal officers and Portland police soon pressed people west, at times with physical force, impact munitions or pepper spray. The two forces appeared to stay separate even as they both advanced on the crowd.

The federal push stretched to the Salmon Street Interstate 405 overpass. Officers began retreating around 11:20 p.m. Many people followed them. Federal police responded by shooting impact munitions and setting off some type of irritant that caused people to struggle to breathe and cough.

Smaller groups of protesters continued to wander, and Portland police arrived to drive the crowds away. An Oregonian/OregonLive journalist witnessed six arrests. It was unclear how many people were detained or arrested.

The sporadic showdowns between police and small groups of demonstrators continued past midnight. When some people made their way back to the Justice Center, police repeated their demands to leave. Several dozen people remained near the building past 1 a.m.

Demonstrations calling for criminal justice reforms began in late May after the killing of George Floyd, who died after a Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck and ignored pleas for air. The protests have taken place nearly every night in Portland, except for a recent stretch when wildfire smoke filled the city.

Portland police have received criticism for officers' use of force against protesters in response to building damage, thrown eggs or dumpster fires. Mayor Ted Wheeler banned the use of tear gas earlier in September.

KPTV Fox 12 reported late Wednesday that the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and Oregon State Police cited the tear gas ban in their decisions not to help police planned counter-demonstrations Saturday.

Daryl Turner, who leads the Portland police union, appeared on Fox News Wednesday night to denounce how city officials had responded to calls for police reform. The City Council voted to cut the police force budget and end the bureau’s gun violence unit, among other changes.

Turner criticized actions to defund police as “political stunts.”

“Politicians bent on power, who perpetrate misinformation and untruths, are just as guilty as using their privilege to hijack this movement, the movement of racial equity, the movement of social justice, as the rioters who are committing violent acts, burning and looting and causing chaos in the streets," Turner said.

Interviewer Martha MacCallum asked Turner what he thought about the grand jury decision in the Breonna Taylor case.

“I haven’t read enough to comment on that,” Turner said.

Video of Molotov cocktail here:

Riot is declared in Portland as BLM protesters hurl Molotov cocktails at cops and thousands take to the streets in demonstrations across the nation following Breonna Taylor grand jury decision

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...rs-NYC-protests.html

Anti-Police Rioters Attack Police Officers Who Were Putting Out Fires In Louisville

https://www.dailywire.com/news...-fires-in-louisville