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The moment to moment bodycam footage of George Floyd's arrest. Note at 1.48 min the female passenger's warning to Floyd. Not exactly the narrative hammered in to the public by the mass media. The comments are pretty much unanimous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?...dIw&feature=emb_logo



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The far-left cities are doing everything they can to increase violent crime, shootings, and murders. Then they will use this as the reason they need more gun control. This is fairly obvious now.
 
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Not sure if it's been posted here, but if...IF...the post-mortem autopsy that's readily available online is accurate, a cursory reading pretty much proves Floyd died of causes OTHER THAN the police officer's actions. But BLM, the demoshits, ANTIFA, and all the rioter...err...peaceful protesters won't believe one word of a sworn document by a coroner. Again, that is IF the autopsy being circulated is indeed true.



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Someone, please give me the gist of that video. I'm somewhere I can't turn up the audio and I have no earphones with me.

Also, if you know how to do so, I recommend downloading that video before youtube removes it.
 
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Someone, please give me the gist of that video. I'm somewhere I can't turn up the audio and I have no earphones with me.

Also, if you know how to do so, I recommend downloading that video before youtube removes it.
I think the gist is, Floyd was either highly drugged up, mentally ill, or both. Even the woman with him noted he was off in the head. Most of his dialogue throughout the video makes no sense, but what is absolutely confirmed is that he heeded exactly zero of the officer's instructions. That video paints an entirely different picture than the one the media and liberals would have us believe happened.


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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Not sure if it's been posted here, but if...IF...the post-mortem autopsy that's readily available online is accurate, a cursory reading pretty much proves Floyd died of causes OTHER THAN the police officer's actions. But BLM, the demoshits, ANTIFA, and all the rioter...err...peaceful protesters won't believe one word of a sworn document by a coroner. Again, that is IF the autopsy being circulated is indeed true.
Can you offer up any particular links to the autopsy and/or overviews of its results? I haven't gone looking yet.


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Posts: 33845 | Location: Orlando, FL | Registered: April 30, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Various things are coming to a head in Louisville KY now, as we’ve been plagued with all sorts of disturbances since March, all stemming from the death of Breonna Taylor at the time of a no-knock warrant for drug trafficking.

LMPD has been less than responsive and forthcoming with their investigation. The investigation has since been taken over by the State Atty Genl with results expected soon.

LMPD Chief sacked by Dem Mayor less than 1 month from his retirement, as a demonstration turned fatal after individual fired at LMPD/National Guard and they returned fire. LMPD officers had turned off their body cams (grounds for firing Chief), so investigation had to rely on store security cams (less than clear). Additional AG investigation of second death also expected soon.

Louisville Metro Council has begun investigation into LMPD actions, but Acting LMPD Chief and Safety Director walked out of today’s Metro Council meeting when they were being questioned.

We’ve been having continuous demonstrations (riots) weekly. Violent demo caused large damage in downtown govt/business area, with windows boarded up. Last week, the BLMers marched into a trendy shop/restaurant area east of downtown (known as NuLu) and DEMADED that shop owners and restaurants have a 23% black employment of staff, “or else” (think of Don Corleone making an offer that can’t be refused). Not setting well with the shop owners/restauranteurs.

Last night, the BLMers and their AntiFa allies attempted to burn down the Hall of Justice court building; FBI called in for investigation.

The re-scheduled Kentucky Derby is supposed to happen on Labor Day weekend, with the State Fair 2 weeks before that; but questioning because of the a CoVid uptick in the State, not to mention the civil disturbances.

The Dem Gov and the Dem Louisville Mayor are more concerned about the face mask requirements and CoVid numbers, disregarding the 100% rise in number of shootings over last year numbers. The NG was sent home after the fatal shooting, so it’s been left to LMPD to handle. Large number of officers have put in for retirement since June.

The Dem Mayor was re-elected in 2018 with 60+% vote; he’d be lucky to get 25% now.

There are a couple of other SigForum members from metro Louisville area, and I’m sure they’ve got their own viewpoints on what I’ve written. As I’ve said, things are coming to a head here soon.

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Can you offer up any particular links to the autopsy and/or overviews of its results? I haven't gone looking yet.
I received an e-mail from my pseudo dad, but it did not include a source. I'm working on that to see if he has one...



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Thank you. bigdeal. Of course, as we all know, the leftists care nothing about the truth. They ignore any and all facts which don't fit their narrative.


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Good grief, he was yammering away the minute they pulled-up on him. Didn't listen to a single-word the cops instructed him to do, didn't answer any questions, refused to calm himself...

Given the company he was hanging around and the neighborhood, it certainly comes across like he was on something or, coming down from something, along with a dose of mental issues. The lefties pushed for body cameras, here's more evidence and the proof is there, Mr.Floyd while his death is unfortunate, he didn't help himself whatsoever.
 
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Also, if you know how to do so, I recommend downloading that video before youtube removes it.


Yep. Also recommend downloading part 2, which is here:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L_XDoBV8Xs

Enter the link to the video here to download:
https://www.y2mate.com/en24


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I have the video saved locally, just in case.

The entire 8:34 worth, it's 61.63MB.

Will make myself watch it later.
 
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Good grief, he was yammering away the minute they pulled-up on him. Didn't listen to a single-word the cops instructed him to do, didn't answer any questions, refused to calm himself...

Given the company he was hanging around and the neighborhood, it certainly comes across like he was on something or, coming down from something, along with a dose of mental issues. The lefties pushed for body cameras, here's more evidence and the proof is there, Mr.Floyd while his death is unfortunate, he didn't help himself whatsoever.


It seems that he couldn't breathe before any handcuffs were on him or an officer touched him. Panic attack, drugs, mental issues, or a combination of the three. The other narrative in question is that he was already secured in the vehicle then yanked out before the kneeling. He was never under control from the video posted.

I originally thought cop overboard or worse. Now I'm left thinking poor decision to call medical assistance right away. Now negligence vs malice.

I don't have all the information, nor am I wise enough to make the call, but this does call into light the original theory of overzealous cops (or racist cops). Looks like an unidentified medical situation due to drugs or mental illness.

Wow, is all I can say untill I know more. Might just be a tragic situation vs malpractice.



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Among Floyd’s “natural diseases” were “severe” coronary artery disease, high blood pressure, and hypertensive heart disease, the top cause of death from high blood pressure, the WebMD website says.

Floyd also suffered with cardiomegaly, an enlarged heart, and had a “clinical history of hypertension.”

Floyd also used dangerous drugs, the report says. The autopsy found fentanyl and methamphetamine in his bloodstream.

Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid pain reliever, the Centers for Disease Control says, that is “50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.” Opioids are respiratory depressants.

Floyd complained that he couldn’t breathe before Chauvin pinned him to the ground.

Beyond the findings of serious heart disease and opioid use are those directly related to his fatal encounter with Chauvin.

Floyd suffered multiple “blunt force” wounds, but “no life-threatening injuries [were] identified,” the report says.

A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae
B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal structures
C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries
D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column injuries, or visceral injuries
E. Incision and subcutaneous dissection of posterior and lateral neck, shoulders, back, flanks, and buttocks negative for occult trauma

The absence of petechiae — small red or purple spots in the eyes or skin from bleeding capillaries — is significant because they occur in upwards of 85 percent of strangulation or traumatic asphyxia deaths; i.e., increased pressure on the neck of the kind that Chauvin applied to Floyd.


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I believe the toxicology report indicated the negligible presence of methamphetamine and some other drugs. As Skins says they should have called for medical. When he said he was claustrophic that should have been a clue. His constant yammering from the jump looked more like a manic state than a resistant manipulative individual. On the other hand, cops cannot be expected to be mental health experts.
 
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DEMADED that shop owners and restaurants have a 23% black employment of staff, “or else” (think of Don Corleone making an offer that can’t be refused). Not setting well with the shop owners/restauranteurs.

Frown Mad


Can we make the same demand based on the racial makeup of the location for the NBA, NFL and other sports teams?


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You can read the entire autopsy report and toxicology findings here


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Looks like they were being very professional in dealing with him and trying to get him into the police car. He kept claiming he was claustrophobic. And it's likely the officers thought he was just making up excuses.

They get him in the car with officers on one side pushing and one on the other side pulling, and then he shoves himself all the way through and out the other side. During all this he says he is having a heart attach and can't breath. Again sounds like excuses because he is still resisting.

Then they are on the ground, holding him down. He starts calling for his mama, and then says he can't breath.

Certainly possible he did have a heart attack, and they did not believe him, and therefore didn't call for EMS. This does not look like 1st or 2nd degree murder. Looks like manslaughter though negligence and failure to provide care, if that.

I would like to hear the officers' side of the story but they're not going to say anything until trial.

Edited to add:

Just read the autopsy, no sign of neck injury. I would bet Chauvin will say knee contact with the neck was incidental and no force was applied, with all weight on the other knee. And that he knew he was not causing any breathing issue, and the autopsy report supports this.

But the family hired a celebrity M.E. that says the cause of death was strangulation so it's going to come down to which M.E. the jury believes.
 
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DEMADED that shop owners and restaurants have a 23% black employment of staff, “or else” (think of Don Corleone making an offer that can’t be refused). Not setting well with the shop owners/restauranteurs.

Frown Mad


Can we make the same demand based on the racial makeup of the location for the NBA, NFL and other sports teams?


No, that would be racist. Wink




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Interesting that the city is using the state statute on weapon prohibition on public schools and university grounds to declare any public property where a school activity can take place to be a weapons free zone. So if any public property has had or could have an educational activity no weapons allowed. Just a short hop and skip to taking this to include state and national parks, forests, and probably private land. No wonder the governor wont denounce the protests but lectures on political campaigning at the protest sites.


In Indiana, the school event (held off school grounds) must be going on, for it to be a gun free zone.




 
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