Guys, we welcome your assistance, but not your fantasies. Bribery? Boat rides? Think before you post. This is not a game.

I have nothing constructive to add other than my best wishes.

Whatever the outcome, might want to make this a permanent reminder of how serious certain places are regarding ANYTHING to do with firearms and for any folks traveling outside or even to places inside the country to be extra aware of what’s in their luggage, trunk or whatever.

I wish I could offer specific help regarding the OP but maybe this will help others.

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Originally posted by corsair:
While brass is nothing to get alarmed about ...

Not to drift the thread, but that belief deserves a cautionary “Don’t bet on it” comment:
Empty cartridge cases by themselves are evidently defined as ammunition that’s illegal to possess (with certain exceptions) in our nation’s Capital. I recall a case some years ago in which someone got jacked up by the DC police based on a report from an ex-wife/SO, just for possessing “ammunition” illegally.

“DC ammunition laws are strict and carry significant criminal penalties if you do not have a license to carry.”
“The [Washington] DC Code defines Ammunition as cartridge cases shells or projectiles. The shells or casing have propellant powder, materials designed, or intended for use in a firearm or destructive device.”

https://rollinsandchan.com/pos...istrict-of-columbia/

Ugh. I’m so Paranoid about that when I go to the airport. Please let us know when the money train for legal help needs to be fired up.

Only thoughts I have are once all rational avenues are exhausted is blow up all the forums. Tourism, sport fishing and of course gun forums. One, to get the legal money but also to lean on their congressman to lean on the embassy to put the word out that the tourist/fishing industry for Americans could dry up.

Also, At the right time, get the word out to the people in media who would care. Tucker, Shapiro, Bongino, crowder, Joe rogan Etc.

Wow, that's insane and a really easy mistake to make. I hope he gets unscathed and soon.

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Originally posted by corsair:
While brass is nothing to get alarmed about, ...

It is in Massachusetts. I bought a 100 round linked belt of empty .308 to make a belt for my daughter when she was going to UMass Amherst. She explained to me that the empty cartridge case itself was a problem in Mass, without a proper permit.

Some places are just nuts, and logic need not apply.

This is an excellent Forum and one that allows us to help fellow members.

Will follow this thread and stand ready to help as I can.

This sucks on so many levels. Nobody deserves to be locked up for ammo.

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Originally posted by ArtieS:

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Originally posted by corsair:
While brass is nothing to get alarmed about, ...

It is in Massachusetts. I bought a 100 round linked belt of empty .308 to make a belt for my daughter when she was going to UMass Amherst. She explained to me that the empty cartridge case itself was a problem in Mass, without a proper permit.

Some places are just nuts, and logic need not apply.

She is correct. Any ammunition or ammunition component requires a MA FID or LTC to posses it.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by corsair:
While brass is nothing to get alarmed about ...

Not to drift the thread, but that belief deserves a cautionary “Don’t bet on it” comment:

Hence my following sentence, to have separate-dedicated bags for the range, separate from other firearm uses, so that no complications arise.

I'd like think that we're all aware enough to know, in the most onerous states, simply having components of firearms and ammunition is enough to raise alarms and even violate laws/statues.

Separate bags for firearms and ammo in today's world is a must. Even though I follow that protocol before every air flight I take my backpack and empty it completely. Mistakes can happen.

Very sad to hear. I hope it gets resolved soon in his favor.

The best local counsel money can buy. They know the lay of the land, the judge, and how things work. Our man has done that. A “Free Dave” campaign on social media ain’t it. Perhaps if those involved were responsible for significant spending past and future but those folks don’t need to participate in a social media campaign as they already know who to call and lobby. A bunch of I won’t go there threats from a bunch of people who were never going to go there to begin with is nothing more than clown car trying to create a circus. It’s a shit situation but at least it’s in a place where the rule of law exists and not some third works banana republic. Good luck Dave. An honest mistake made by a good man doesn’t deserve prison.

Sorry to hear this has happened to you. Hope it will all be over soon and you can come back home.

I hold an enduring belief, this will sort itself out. Here to help if otherwise.

Returning from an out of state range, I removed my jacket and was about to toss it in the overhead, I decided to check the pockets and found a half dozen rounds in my hand. The coat went through the x-ray machine with everything else. Lesson learned for me.

I too join fellow members here wishing you a speedy successful resolution to this nightmare.

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Originally posted by bald1:
I too join fellow members here wishing you a speedy successful resolution to this nightmare.

I too don't have any specific advice, but feel the same way.

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Originally posted by BansheeOne:
A quick search yields a 2019 precedent where a US citizen who ran his boat aground in their waters with 15 guns and 8,000 rounds of ammunition on board was let off with a fine.

This is the incident I referred to in my first post. For this reason, among others, I feel as if Dave is going to be OK. Speaking to him on the phone, he sounds to be in good spirits and handling this far better than some others might.

The day he touches American soil, we'll throw a virtual party for him in the forum and we can all hoist a glass.

I've prayed for you and will continue to do so.

Silent