Originally posted by CRASH_PRO:
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Originally posted by cavscouttj:
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Originally posted by CRASH_PRO:
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Originally posted by cavscouttj:
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Originally posted by johntsi:
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Originally posted by cavscouttj:
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Originally posted by CRASH_PRO:
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Of course i had to take it to the range right away to test it! Anyone remember earlier i was saying the Geissele SD-3G was working fine? not anymore... Even with the added back pressure of the silencers it was failing to reset about 1 out of 10 rounds with Lawman 147gr ammo. I switched to Fiocchi 158gr and it was about one every other magazine using my Revolution and Octane 9. I switched to the SG-2 and it seemed to be running find for another couple of mags (maybe i just got lucky? Maybe it's not silencer dependent?) and then it ran flawless for about 20 rds of low powered Emcon suppressor ammo (which is very quiet!). I was really surprised it was working with those loads and not the lawman as it's it's the hottest load of the bunch. That stuff is loud suppressed and sometimes goes super out of my 16" where none of the other 147gr i shoot will.
Before it was cut, it was VERY dirty and the action was sluggish but yet worked flawlessly with the SD-3G! After getting it back i cleaned and oiled it, and then i started having problems.
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Not sure I follow. If the bolt fully cycles and picks up the next round, the hammer has to be cocked. If you are holding back on the trigger, and then let off, you should hear the click of the disconnector release the hammer to the sear, and then you should be ready to shoot. Where in this cycle are things going awry?
Reset is *you* letting off of the trigger so the disconnecter lets go of the hammer. So "failing to reset" is confusing. Saying a trigger is short reset, means you only let off a little for it to work.
Will it consistently lock the bolt open on an empty mag? This is the basic test related to gas port size and dwell time and such.
The issue mine is having with the s3g is the hammer is following the bolt back so the hammer is not reset. It loads the next round but the hammer is in the fired "not reset" position.
My S3G came with two trigger springs. You might try the other one. Other than that, call Geissele. They will take care of you.
He summed it up nicely. If you play with your mpx, the bolt has to go back really far too get the hammer to catch the disconnecter. It can eject and pick up a new round without "resetting".
Mine also came with 2 springs although i already have the lighter one installed. I don't see how a heavier one would help. Also per a post few pages back, Geissele doesn't recommend the 3 gun trigger for this very reason. I don't see how they could help unless they switch me trigger packs to the SSA-E.
I just tried with some dummy rounds to rack the bolt enough to eject and no more. Every time it cocked the hammer. I ask my original question again:
Will it consistently lock the bolt open on an empty mag? [This is the basic test related to gas port size and dwell time and such]
If it has enough rearward movement to lock the bolt to the rear, I do not think its possible to NOT cock the hammer-- absent a disconnector issue. In any case I see no reason not to get the opinion of the manufacturer.
So it worked in yours but do you have a Geissele SD-3G trigger in it? If not, buy one and try again. I am able to eject a round and pick one up without the trigger resetting.
If i contact Sig they will tell me replace the factory trigger.
If i contact geissele they will tell me is a known issue and to use the SSA (this was discussed several pages ago)
I bought a bought a Hiperfire 24c, should arrive tomorrow. I will see if i get the same issue. I contacted Hiperfire and was told one person to date claimed to have issues with this setup. I'll find out for myself and if i do I'll drop it in an AR.
From other websites seems some are having luck with CMC triggers. I have one, they are OK. Would rather use something else but if this doesn't euro, that maybe next.
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