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After Zelenskyy goes to a swing state to attack Trump’s vice presidential candidate, he better really pray Kamala Harris wins.

It was political, policy, and presidential malpractice for Biden to let Zelenskyy go down that road. Biden has compromised support for Ukraine by tying it directly to a partisan presidential election.

And notice just how approving so much of the press corps and Democrats are who regularly wail about election interference in the United States. They seem to be just fine with it if it helps Democrats.

So please do not be surprised when more Republicans turn against Ukraine and fewer care about the very real issue of electoral interference by foreign governments. It looks like the Democrats and much of the press really don’t care so long as it helps the left or, at least, hurts Donald Trump.

Erickson has always been "a staunch supporter of funding Ukraine and supporting Zelenskyy".
He's right about this being "disgusting".

But I think he's wrong about it helping Kamala or hurting Donald Trump. I think enough people see through Zelenskyy:
Zelenskyy is a gold digging whore, a corrupt scumbag, nothing else.

If anything, it hurts Kamala.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Putin is now campaigning for “Russians” to have more sex/babies.

(The response is quite cynical from my family.)

Apparently, even the slaves he has left are now refusing to reproduce - Russia has always used wars to try to disguise her genocides.

It will
Be interesting to see if Putin’s regime can realize it’s pushed their favorite form of Russian to the point they will not reproduce.

(DC is in the same boat. So is much of Western Europez)

Putin will, probably, go full lebensborn, if nothing else works. Not sure if the Western Europe is still brutal enough to engage in forced reproduction

Yeah Putin could just allow uncontrolled migration that will destroy the Russian culture

Russia has had a long goal of expanding to “natural” borders, then using wars to exterminate all of the non-Russians inside of those borders.

(Tsars, Soviets, etc all had a similar goal.)

There is a lot of immigration into Russia, but mostly as mercenaries.

(And some concern about why lots of men from the same regions are now immigrating to traditional targets of Russian genocide)

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President Zelenskyy

He needs a new title after cancelling elections and staying on as dictator past his original term.

I still think he, a lampost and a rope will have a date someday.

Trump accuses Zelensky of refusing to strike a deal on war

https://www.breitbart.com/news...trike-a-deal-on-war/

Former US president Donald Trump on Wednesday accused Ukraine’s leader Volodymyr Zelensky of refusing to “make a deal” to end his country’s war with Russia.

“We continue to give billions of dollars to a man who refuses to make a deal, Zelensky,” the Republican White House candidate said in sharply critical remarks at a campaign rally in North Carolina.

“Every time he came to our country, he’d walk away with $60 billion,” Trump said, derisively describing the Ukrainian president as “probably the greatest salesman on Earth.”

“What do you have left now?” Trump sneered. “The country is absolutely obliterated.”

A face-to-face meeting between Trump, who has been highly critical of the aid Washington and the Pentagon have disbursed to Kiev, and Zelensky had been floated for the sidelines of the ongoing United Nations General Assembly in New York.

But the meeting is expected to be scrapped, according to US media, which reported Trump did not appreciate the interview Zelensky gave to The New Yorker magazine, in which the Ukrainian president said he believed the 78-year-old Republican “doesn’t really know how to stop the war.”

Trump’s remarks came shortly after Zelensky addressed the United Nations and accused Russia of plotting potentially catastrophic attacks on Ukrainian nuclear plants.

Trump claimed in early September he had a plan “guaranteed” to end the war but would not reveal it unless he wins the US presidential election.

He also repeatedly asserted he would settle the war between Moscow and Kiev within 24 hours — without explaining how.

In recent months he has been particularly critical of US funding for Ukraine and has called on Europe to step up its contributions.

When contacted by AFP, Trump’s team refused to confirm whether the meeting between the two men had been scrapped.

Zelensky joins Putin, campaigning and advocating for Kamala Harris in Pennsylvania

Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, has already stated that he favors Kamala Harris for president.

But his wartime rival, Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, has decided to go Putin one better by literally campaigning for Harris in Pennsylvania on the public dime, throwing out statements condemning President Trump to voters.

According to the Daily Caller:

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy flew into a key U.S. swing state this week on a taxpayer-funded aircraft after publicly criticizing former President Donald Trump and Republican Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance.

Zelenskyy touched down in Scranton, Pennsylvania, on Sunday in a U.S. Air Force C-17A aircraft and toured a local munitions factory that has been producing armaments for Ukraine amid the country’s ongoing war against Russia. During his visit, Zelenskyy met with high-level Democratic Pennsylvania officials such as Gov. Josh Shapiro, Sen. Bob Casey and Rep. Matt Cartwright and expressed his gratitude “for their support.”

Which is clearly foreign election interference, as well as likely illegal, given that he had been using a U.S. government aircraft to do it.

It's also bad optics.

President Trump was nearly murdered a mere week ago by a dirtbag who proclaimed a fanatical devotion to Ukraine's war. Now Zelensky has turned up to try to knock President Trump out another way? He should sit this one out.

More important, the Biden-Harris administration has given him all the money he's wanted, $61 billion on the last run, blowing out the U.S. budget to do it (which creates inflation here), and even getting our factories whirring for him, in contravention to the claims by the Bidenites that he was only getting military surplus.

Actually, he's getting new stuff, and the humming factories, intended to show economic activity in recession-battered Pennsylvania, tell a different story. How that affects U.S. readiness is unknown, but we know there are problems across the board with that.

But for Zelensky, the money flows -- for arms, street sweeping, bureaucratic pensions, for all sorts of stuff, and one of his top people has said that corruption is so widespread that everyone is "stealing like there is no tomorrow." I wrote this last November:

The sad thing here is that the officials taking this money must know that the war effort is lost and Ukraine isn't going to win in the end. The army is dead, the numbers aren't there, and the locals are embracing the E.U. in order to emigrate. Since the officials are all stealing, they're all wagering that Russia is going to win, and with that the reality, they're amassing their own nest eggs in places like Cyprus, Monaco and Switzerland for themselves in order to land with their feet on the ground. Why fight for Ukraine's future when you've already calculated that there is none and your best bet is to just look out for yourself before the Big Guy's cash flow runs out?

That's what seems to be going on here, yet guys like Joe Biden, and Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky keep calling for more, more, more money to flow for the war effort, making increasingly hollow appeals about democracy and the West being at stake when the only thing that is at stake is their own bank accounts.

Besides this Ukrainian hog wallow for the elites over there, consultants in Washington are getting rich off the big-dollar contracts that flow from all this war largesse that Zelensky can never get enough of.

Now he's out campaigning for Harris and more likely than not, it's about the money, honey, and perhaps a bit of blackmail from the White House.

It will backfire on him, as all open foreign interference efforts do on the perpetrators. Voters don't like that. Remember when random Brits wrote letters to random Ohio voters asking them to vote for John Kerry? It backfired.

One hopes that the Pennsylvania public will be onto this awful game and punish Harris for it, too

It's also a bad decision by Zelensky from his own perspective. Because if Trump wins, he isn't likely to forget this little campaign stunt, coming on top of a Ukraine-linked assassination attempt, a phony Ukraine-linked impeachment, and a mountain of fake news about Russia, Russia, Russia. Trump may stop that war all right, since he has a record of opposing, stopping, and preventing wars and keeping peace, but Zelensky won't be getting any victory parades he can brag about after this kind of behavior, because someone else might just be in his place instead.

https://www.americanthinker.co...in_pennsylvania.html

The Babylon Bee:

‘Trump Will Start World War III,’ Says Party Autographing Bombs To Be Launched At Russia

^^^ Fucking scumbags.

God willing.

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God willing.

OMG. That commercial was dynamite, back in the day. I think 1988?
It would be great to re-run it, morphing Dukakis into Zelenskyy and then Kamala.

Of course it wont be their kids going to war. Just the middle class and the poor. Fodder for these elitists.

Think of all of the millions of lives, billions of dollars, and diplomatic relationships that would have been saved had Zelensky listened to reason and allowed Russia to have a little bit of territory. Anyone who still supports this clown is part of the problem and I look forward to Trump taking office and righting this situation. Three years in and no end in sight.

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
Think of all of the millions of lives, billions of dollars, and diplomatic relationships that would have been saved had Zelensky listened to reason and allowed Russia to have a little bit of territory. Anyone who still supports this clown is part of the problem and I look forward to Trump taking office and righting this situation. Three years in and no end in sight.

Yeah that happened in 2014 with Obama and the Crimea annex. Never stops.

I don't agree with paying for this war, but let them fight on otherwise.

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Yeah that happened in 2014 with Obama and the Crimea annex. Never stops.

+ Belarus, Venzuela, Hungary, Brazil, India, Slovakia, Nigeria & other central African countries. Now beginning in the rest of Geogia, Mongolia & many countries. Over a million Russians have escaped Putin. Putin is a homicidal madman who's control over Russians came gradually but is now absolute. Putin will not quit until he is eliminated.

He looks like a scolded child. He won't even look at Trump. That's fantastic.

Well now I know where to go soon to find a fire sale on yachts and mansions. Only a few more months before Trump hands victory to Russia and that freeloader will be hung by his own people

Trump wouldn't be handing victory over to anyone. Stop it.

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
Well now I know where to go soon to find a fire sale on yachts and mansions. Only a few more months before Trump hands victory to Russia and that freeloader will be hung by his own people

Oh FFS you cannot be serious.

It’ll be more like Trump separating two fighting children and telling the one to knock it the fuck off and to make it right with the other.

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
Think of all of the millions of lives, billions of dollars, and diplomatic relationships that would have been saved had Zelensky listened to reason and allowed Russia to have a little bit of territory.

Yeah, because that always works when you give in to the demands of crazy dictators.




How many times do we have to repeat the same mistakes before we learn?

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
Only a few more months before Trump hands victory to Russia and that freeloader will be hung by his own people

I don't find either of these outcomes objectionable, honestly. If us cutting off our aid to Ukraine means handing it to Russia, then so be it.

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How many times do we have to repeat the same mistakes before we learn?

Oh look, a comparison to Hitler and WWII. How fresh and thought-provoking.

What's this "we" stuff? How about Europe handles Europe's problems? How many times do you need to repeat that mistake before you learn? What we're learning on this side of the Atlantic is that it doesn't matter how many times we have to step in and "save democracy," that Europeans will always need another few generations of American blood to save it again before living memory of the last war fully fades. How about you guys get your own shit in order this time?