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I am looking for the video that RT used. The dubber has a Slavic accent.


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Ukraine rejects Russian claim Kursk forces 'encircled'

https://www.france24.com/en/vi...rsk-forces-encircled

Kyiv has denied its forces in Russia's Kursk region are at risk of being encircled, after US President Donald Trump said he had urged Russia's Vladimir Putin to spare them and avert a "horrible massacre". FRANCE 24's Ukraine



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I am looking for the video that RT used. The dubber has a Slavic accent.
Are you certain the translation is incorrect? Forgive me, but you have a distinct bias on this subject.

Based upon your claim, I blocked someone I used to follow. You need to be certain that you're correct.
 
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Most of the killing could have been avoided...
Any agreement to end this war will be much worse for Ukraine than what was on the table 3 years ago.

And for what? To replace the population with Africans?

All-Ukrainian Association of Companies for International Employment chief Vasily Voskoboinik appeared on state television in February to push for mass migration, saying, “According to estimates by the International Organization for Migration”—a United Nations agency that preaches about immigration being “inevitable, desirable, and necessary”—” and the International Labour Organization, we will need 8.2 million workers.”

“We have a demographic catastrophe. Either we encourage our women to have more children, which would take 18–20 years to reflect in the labor market, or we must realistically seek labor migration from other countries,” Voskoboinik. He seeks to source the migrants from non-Western states and regions such as Bangladesh, Nepal, India, North Africa, and Central Asia—despite various studies showing that non-Western migrants are a massive net drain on the public finances in other European countries.

‘THE FIRST AFRICAN NATION IN EUROPE.’

Raheem Kassam warned that such a course would be pursued as long ago as May 2024, telling War Room host Stephen K. Bannon, “[C]learly, the plan isn’t to keep young Ukrainian men alive to rebuild the nation after all this is done… So, who do you think they intend to import into Ukraine to rebuild the country? If I can put it so bluntly, Ukraine will be the first African nation in Europe in 10 to 15 years’ time.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...lace-dead-ukrainians



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Trump-Putin To Hold Tuesday Call On 'Ending War In Ukraine, Dividing Certain Assets'

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...iding-certain-assets

Both the US and Russian sides have confirmed that Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin will hold another phone call on Tuesday. Trump previewed that he plans to continue discussions to end the war in Ukraine, and he cryptically referenced negotiators having already discussed "dividing up certain assets."

"I’ll be speaking to President Putin on Tuesday. A lot of work’s been done over the weekend," Trump told reporters on Air Force One while en route back from Florida to Washington.

"We want to see if we can bring that war to an end. Maybe we can, maybe we can’t, but I think we have a very good chance," Trump said.

The US is still proposing a 30-day temporary ceasefire, which Putin has already questioned as a likely means by which Ukrainian forces can simply rearm, replenish, and regroup.

"We will be talking about land. We will be talking about power plants," Trump said when asked by a reporters about concessions. "I think we have a lot of it already discussed very much by both sides, Ukraine and Russia. We are already talking about that, dividing up certain assets."

Trump's special envoy who met with Putin in Moscow last week, Steve Witkoff, has said that the Russian president "accepts the philosophy" of Trump’s ceasefire. Still, the Kremlin has repeatedly said it will not accept anything that's a short-term solution.

Putin and Trump had an initial phone call spanning 90-minutes less than a month after Trump was inaugurated, to talk about moving toward a potential Ukraine peace plan.

The Russian Defense Ministry has meanwhile indicated that Moscow will demand Kiev's neutral status and that NATO can never accept Ukraine for membership.

This appears to be Moscow's only and main 'security guarantee' that it wants in place: "Part of these guarantees should be the neutral status of Ukraine, the refusal of Nato countries to accept it into the alliance," Russia's deputy foreign minister Alexander Grushko said Sunday. Of course, this is to include a ban on NATO building up military infrastructure in Ukraine as well.

But other Western allies are challenging the progress made, and are likely even trying to sabotage any potential deal. "If Ukraine requests allied forces to be on its territory, it is not up to Russia to accept or reject them," French President Emmanuel Macron has said.

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Limited Ceasefire Agreed --at least between the US and Russia

Will Ukraine and Europe Support the deal?

https://weapons.substack.com/p...rue&utm_medium=email

A preliminary readout of the Trump-Putin telephone call says that the two leaders agreed on a limited ceasefire arrangement covering energy facilities in Ukraine and Russia. It is questionable if Ukraine will accept the deal.

“The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.”

The Kremlin said “It was emphasized [presumably by President Putin] that the key condition for preventing the escalation of the conflict and working towards its resolution by political and diplomatic means should be a complete cessation of foreign military assistance and the provision of intelligence information to Kyiv."

The negotiations will take place in "a bilateral mode" meaning no Ukrainians and no Europeans. The sides agreed on "experts groups" to work out the terms of a possible agreement to settle the Ukraine conflict. The "bilateral mode" separates the US and Russia from immediately having to deal with Ukraine. The deal between Putin and Trump also clearly displaces the Europeans, particularly the EU and NATO, where Washington no longer finds either the EU or NATO helpful or constructive.

It appears this means the Russians will stop its attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure and Ukraine will stop long range attacks targeting Russia's energy infrastructure. In Ukraine's case this would mean Ukraine won't attack refineries, oil and gas transit hubs, pipelines and fuel storage sites. Russia will stop attacking power plants, electricity distribution systems, and other parts of Ukraine's energy distribution system.

There is a good chance Ukraine will not honor the Trump-Putin agreement.

The limited ceasefire is likely to be set for 30 days, but probably could be extended if the parties agree.

The talks covered other bilateral issues beyond Ukraine.

The US Embassy in Moscow also reported: "The leaders spoke broadly about the Middle East as a region of potential cooperation to prevent future conflicts. They further discussed the need to stop proliferation of strategic weapons and will engage with others to ensure the broadest possible application. The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel."

The US Moscow embassy also noted "The two leaders agreed that a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside. This includes enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved."

There are many questions going forward including Ukrainian resistance to the limited ceasefire and the upcoming talks "in the Middle East." However, Ukraine does not have much room for maneuver, since the US has now discounted Europe's involvement, taking away the political support Ukraine is trying to leverage.


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‘We Will Definitely Win This War’ – Zelensky Announces Upcoming Call With Trump

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/49193

President Volodymyr Zelensky announced Wednesday that he would be holding a conversation with US President Donald Trump, following Trump’s more than two-hour phone call with Russian leader Vladimir Putin on Tuesday.

Speaking at a press conference alongside Finnish leader Alexander Stubb in Helsinki, Zelensky said:

“We are fighting for our sovereignty, for our independence. And we will definitely win this war. As for what to do next – without us, it is impossible to end this war with a just peace,” he said.

Zelensky also confirmed that he would be in contact with Trump later that day.

“Today, I will speak with President Trump. We will discuss the details of the next steps with him... and I expect to hear from him about his conversation with Putin.”

Zelensky added that he had learned some details about the March 18 conversation but stated, “I would like to discuss the specifics after a direct dialogue with Trump.”

“We are prepared to send our technical team to work on the next steps. When and in what format this meeting will take place – I will be able to clarify later,” he added.

The president also commented on the meeting between the Ukrainian and American teams in Jeddah, calling it “very productive.” He emphasized, “I think everything went well – except for Russia, which is always unhappy when something goes well.”

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“We are fighting for our sovereignty, for our independence. And we will definitely win this war. As for what to do next – without us, it is impossible to end this war with a just peace,” he said.

He really ought to adjust his attitude. As DJT told him "You don't have the cards".



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“We are fighting for our sovereignty, for our independence. And we will definitely win this war. As for what to do next – without us, it is impossible to end this war with a just peace,” he said.

He really ought to adjust his attitude. As DJT told him "You don't have the cards".


Without you, the war could end with Russia taking over the whole country of Ukraine.

I don't understand his position. He certainly knows he cannot win the war against Russia without USA's help, right?



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He's a fool!




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He certainly knows he cannot win the war against Russia without USA's help, right?



I'm not certain he does. He's been pumped up for so long now and put on a pedestal as this historic figure, as a new George Washington of our time that he's got it in his head that he can do this without us and rely on all these European countries which is a complete joke.


 
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It seems to me that if the war ends and he survives for a year then he has won. I have to imagine that unless he does some really impressive brainwashing on his citizens that when it is all over at least some of them will be asking, “We lost our sons for what?” I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a significant group of his citizens who wanted to tear him limb from limb. How he stage manages things so that he doesn’t appear to be either President Trump’s or President Putin’s little bitch may well affect whether he survives long enough to enjoy any of his ill gotten gains.

Not saying he’s doing anything right, just acknowledging that he may well be between a rock and a hard spot…
 
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I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a significant group of his citizens who wanted to tear him limb from limb. How he stage manages things so that he doesn’t appear to be either President Trump’s or President Putin’s little bitch may well affect whether he survives long enough to enjoy any of his ill gotten gains.

He won't run for re-election... he would lose.
He will try to find a country, maybe outside of Europe, possibly in the Caribbean, that will take him in sanctuary.
He will have to pay for it of course, but that shouldn't be a problem.



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I'm not at all convinced Zelensky would lose. It appears the dust up between President Trump and Zelensky triggered a "rally around the flag" response among Ukranians.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0...aine-popularity.html

Another link: https://www.economist.com/euro...or-or-a-popular-hero
 
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Both of those are paywalled and the little blurb at the beginning doesn't say much.

I'm not sure I buy that he's all that loved at home. The propaganda in this war has been so thick, particularly as it involves Ukraine, that I don't buy anything I read in western news. Remember when Ukraine had Russia on the ropes for basically all of 2022, 2023, and 2024? The news was so full of it that it seems like every few months, we even had forum members spouting that line. Those same news sources would have us believing that Trump is the next Hitler, and I should believe that Zelensky is now popular at home because Trump made him look like a bitch in the Oval Office? Not really.


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Russia vs Ukraine is an internecine Slavic squabble that dates back centuries. It has only gotten to be front page news because the “Merchants of Death” (NATO et al) had to find a way to peddle their wares since the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact imploded.

The Slavic version of the definition of Freedom and Liberty has always been who isn’t traipsing around the land burning and pillaging on the peasants.

It’s only become in America’s interest because of one side having nukes and the other one doesn’t, but has been receiving tacit support from the NATO countries who do.


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I'm not at all convinced Zelensky would lose. It appears the dust up between President Trump and Zelensky triggered a "rally around the flag" response among Ukranians.


He can rally the citizenry all he wants. The reserve tank of military aged makes is on empty. Actually the reserve tank of older males is on empty. Who is going to join the fight? NATO without the US? That won't happen. No fighters, no war. Period.
 
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I'm not at all convinced Zelensky would lose.
Far be it from us to attempt to dissuade you of your comfortable fantasy. Enjoy.

Meanwhile, reality abides as we roll towards the inevitable, as Zelenskyy feeds a generation of men into a gigantic wood chipper.

Slobber Ukrainey, or whatever the fuck that stupid shit is that they say.
 
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I'm not at all convinced Zelensky would lose. It appears the dust up between President Trump and Zelensky triggered a "rally around the flag" response among Ukranians.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0...aine-popularity.html

Another link: https://www.economist.com/euro...or-or-a-popular-hero





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