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I believe in the
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The DOJ just filed a brief asking the court to not go forward with an en banc hearing.

The administration will rescind the original order.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Originally posted by JALLEN:
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The present opinion would have no impact to the new order. In theory.....


I understand your reasoning here.

I'm guessing at this point President Trump just wants to be proven right.


The initial report was wrong - the EO will be revised and no more appeals on the previous order.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20170216-story.html

Trump administration says it will revise travel ban instead of continuing appeals



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
 
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Lawyers, Guns
and Money
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^^ That's smart.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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THE WRATH OF TRUMP! Big Grin

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the Trump of God"
"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 5:3, King James Version (KJV)
 
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President Trump is the Fucking MAN!

Bravo Zulu



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I would encourage any members that haven't watched the President's press conference today, to do so.




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
 
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Reminder: you guys remembering to send President Trump a word of support/encouragement/thanks every now and then?
www.whitehouse.gov then "participate" then "contact the White House" then select "President".
Remember we the people are the only ones supporting him.



You've got to know what to do when you don't know what to do.
 
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Best damn news conference I've ever seen! It's going to be a great eight years!
 
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"The Dems are revolting!"

"Yeah, I've heard they can be obnoxious too".


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"The Dems are revolting!"


Odd that the republicans were so well behaved in 2009 and 2012.

Yet they are the ones badmouthing everyone. They just don't get it.


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https://www.c-span.org/video/?...olds-news-conference

C-span gives a lot better coverage.

41


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ha ha, Chuck Todd of NBC not happy

Chuck Todd ✔ @chucktodd

"This not a laughing matter. I'm sorry, delegitimizing the press is un-American'

1:44 PM - 16 Feb 2017

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Chuck Todd: what a pathetic POS. A real "elite" type of guy

The "press" has delegitimized itself, and is behaving "un-American" every single day
 
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I believe in the
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Reminder: you guys remembering to send President Trump a word of support/encouragement/thanks every now and then?
www.whitehouse.gov then "participate" then "contact the White House" then select "President".
Remember we the people are the only ones supporting him.


After "participate" where do you find "contact the WH?" I see only WH tours, internships etc.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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regarding the issue of appealing the 9th circuit, President Trump said at 18:15 in the video that they would appeal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-3ARo5g8KQ

Obviously it was decided to drop it and just go w the new EO

Things are moving fast

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to email the WH, try

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact#page
 
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JAllen, it's under "share your thoughts".



You've got to know what to do when you don't know what to do.
 
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This has the smell of John "Songbird" McCain all over it.

A GOP senator on Thursday reportedly responded to President Trump's extended press conference blasting coverage of multiple administration controversies by suggesting that the president consult a therapist.

"I got a text from a Republican senator who said in this text, 'He should do this with a therapist, not on live television,'" CNN's John King reported, noting that he also received texts from Democrats.

King did not reveal the name of the GOP senator.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-...apist-in-text-to-cnn
 
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I believe in the
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JAllen, it's under "share your thoughts".


Ok, under that menu bar top left.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Get my pies
outta the oven!

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This is dedicated to CNN today (with apologies to Capt Philips) Big Grin



 
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Is the Left Playing with Fire Again



By Patrick J. Buchanan

To those who lived through that era that tore us apart in the ’60s and ’70s, it is starting to look like “deja vu all over again.”

And as Adlai Stevenson, Bobby Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey did then, Democrats today like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are pandering to the hell-raisers, hoping to ride their energy to victory.

Democrats would do well to recall what happened the last time they rode the tiger of social revolution.

As the riots began in Harlem in 1964 and Watts in 1965, liberals rushed to render moral sanction and to identify with the rioters.

“In the great struggle to advance civil and human rights,” said Adlai at Colby College, “even a jail sentence is no longer a dishonor but a proud achievement. … Perhaps we are destined to see in this law-loving land people running for office … on their prison records.”

“There is no point in telling Negroes to obey the law,” said Bobby; to the Negro, “the law is the enemy.” Hubert assured us that if he had to live in a slum, “I could lead a mighty good revolt myself.”

Thus did liberals tie themselves and their party to what was coming. By 1967, Malcolm X had been assassinated, Stokely Carmichael with his call to “Black Power” had replaced John Lewis at SNCC, and H. Rap Brown had a new slogan: “By any means necessary.”

Came then the days-long riots of Newark and Detroit in 1967 where the 82nd Airborne was sent in. A hundred cities were burned and pillaged following the assassination of Dr. King on April 4, 1968.

And what happened in our politics?

The Democratic coalition of FDR was shattered. Gov. George Wallace rampaged through the Democratic primaries of Wisconsin, Indiana and Maryland in 1964, then ran third party and carried five Southern states in 1968.

His presidency broken by Vietnam and the riots, LBJ decided not to run again. Vice President Humphrey’s chances were ruined by the violent protests at his Chicago convention, which were broken up by the club-wielding cops of Democratic Mayor Richard J. Daley.

Race riots in the cities, student riots on campus, and that riot of radicals in Chicago helped deliver America to Richard Nixon.

Came then the huge anti-Nixon, anti-war demonstrations of the fall of 1969, the protests in the spring of 1970 after the Cambodian invasion and the Kent State killings, and the Mayday siege by thousands of anarchists to shut down D.C. in 1971.

Again and again, Nixon rallied the Silent Majority to stand with him — and against them. Middle America did.

Hence, what did its association with protesters, radicals and Black Power militants do for the Democratic Party?

Where LBJ swept 44 states in 1964 and 61 percent of the vote, in 1968 Humphrey won 13 states and 43 percent.

In 1972, Nixon and Spiro Agnew swept 49 states, routing the champion of the countercultural left, George McGovern.

And the table had been set for California Governor Ronald Reagan, who defied campus rioters threatening him with violence thusly: “If it takes a bloodbath, let’s get it over with.”

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Without the riots and bombings of the ’60s and ’70s, there might have been no Nixonian New Majority and no Reagan Revolution.

Today, with the raucous protests against President Trump and his travel ban, the disruption of Congressional town meetings, the blocking of streets every time a cop is involved in a shooting with a black suspect, and the rising vitriol in our politics, it is beginning to look like the 1960s again.



There are differences. In bombings, killings, beatings, arrests, arson, injuries and destruction of property, we are nowhere near 1968.

Still, the intolerant left seems to have melded more broadly and tightly with the Democratic Party of today than half a century ago.

Where Barry Goldwater joked about sawing off the East Coast and “letting it drift out into the Atlantic,” Californians today talk of secession. And much of Middle America would be happy to see them gone.

Where Nixon was credited with the “cooling of America” in 1972, and Reagan could credibly celebrate “Morning in America” in 1984, any such “return to normalcy” appears the remotest possibility now.

As with the EU, the cracks in the USA seem far beyond hairline fractures. Many sense the country could come apart. It did once before. And could Southerners and Northerners have detested each other much more than Americans do today?

Fifty years ago, the anti-Nixon demonstrators wanted out of Vietnam and an end to the draft. By 1972, they had gotten both. The long hot summers were over. The riots stopped.

But other than despising Trump and his “deplorables,” what great cause unites the left today? Even Democrats confessks to not knowing Hillary Clinton’s presidential agenda.

From those days long ago, there returns to mind the couplet from James Baldwin’s famous book, from which he took his title:

“God gave Noah the rainbow sign/ No more water, the fire next time.”

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