^^^Awesome!

You tell them all.....Mr. President!!

We often comment on this board that the left is mentally ill (or retarded in my view). After reading this article, I feel quite confident that the left, both on this side of the pond and over there, have learned absolutely nothing from the past 3+ years. But what is overwhelmingly clear, they are terrified of what's potentially coming. Note the condescending tone and outright smears of those on the right throughout the provided article, while an underlying sense of terror permeates the entire piece. I'm beginning to think there is 'no' solution that will ever be possible so long as this cabal of morons are a part of the equation.

Donald Trump's impeachment was right - but it will help the president win the US election

Everyone seems really eager to confirm that impeaching president Trump was the right thing to do, but no one asks: what’s next?

Look no further than what Boris Johnson has achieved in the UK, and you will grasp what might be coming in the US. Impeachment is set to win Trump the 2020 presidential elections.

I hear you saying the US is different. The voting system, the priorities of the people, the partisan politics and, above all, the political culture. That’s absolutely right. But does that most certainly mean that the outcome must be different? I very much doubt it.

Impeaching President Trump may be the right thing to do in the presence of such compelling and substantial evidence of the abuse of power and obstruction of congress, and many more.

Most fact-driven people, with a little bit of sanity, know that Trump should have been removed from the White House long ago, let alone giving him the chance of being there from the beginning. But, just like Brexit, impeaching him now will be followed by an equally substantial rise of the far-right nationalism posing an unprecedented threat to the liberal democratic system across the western world.

The irony is that it all starts in the UK. The British majority unexpectedly voted for leaving the EU in February 2016, followed by Trump’s rather jaw-dropping victory in the elections held in November the same year. Now, Brexit will most likely be carried out officially by the beginning of 2020, and Trump (this time unsurprisingly) might win the elections at the end of the year.

The political shock and awe seen in 2016 will not be present this time because the impeachment saga will feasibly hit the Democrats and bolster Trump’s legacy.

Hilary Clinton, and now Nancy Pelosi, were not yet ready to understand what had really happened or how the electorate across the party divide perceive the liberalism they supposedly represent. And more importantly, how the right (far and central) is swiftly winning the hearts and minds of the liberal traditional voters.

This happens because the right extremism seems, sadly, on the right side of history.

Nancy Pelosi did the right thing by laying the case for Trump’s impeachment in the House of Representatives, just like Jeremy Corbyn when he promised a referendum to let British voters decide on the final withdrawal agreement with the EU. But whatever the morals over this, the right thing in politics sometimes doesn’t take you anywhere.

Pelosi understands that the impeachment won’t pass the Senate or do any harm to Trump’s election campaign. She might believe that the historic show was necessary to keep the Democratic Party united. British voters have seen this in the near past, and they all know it doesn’t end well.

The fundamental change that liberals look unable to grasp is the people’s scepticism of the liberal democratic order that has prevailed across the Atlantic and dominated the greater west since the end of the Second World War. Democracy, in its current worn-out condition, is broken. People are struggling, from Chile to Hong Kong, to find a more effective alternative that represents their 21st-century aspirations. It is a struggle that is likely to keep blistering throughout the next 50 years.

In the Anglo-Saxon world, people look at the socialists and democrats as the gatekeepers of this liberal democracy. Many of them don’t want to hear tirades about old fashioned socialism or free broadband. They seem more ready to give their ears to Boris Johnson’s false claims about recruiting 50,000 nurses and building 40 hospitals or his gawky battle cry of “make Britain great again.”

It might be the left-leaning columnists and another punch of loud socialists on Twitter that propped up Bernie Sanders’s candidacy as a serious concurrent for the presidency. But people in the US, too, don’t seem very fond of “democratic socialism” or Bernie’s “New Deal” politics.

Most of us on the liberal bank of the river didn’t yet figure out how Brexit has deeply changed the UK, and are still unable to envisage how Trump’s impeachment will turn the table in his favour. The populist “politics of lies”, on both sides of the Atlantic, was so effective and powerful as to convince many that having a Final Say referendum and impeaching Trump is a part of the “enemy of the people” plots against the “will of the people.”

The major shift from pure economics to culture in election campaigns resonated greatly with voters, and in the UK, had the whole political map redrawn. Labour and Lib Dem leaderships were smashed under the wheels of a new kind of wicked populist leaders who have no problem destroying the facts to feed their base with the untruths they want to hear.

After the red wall has collapsed, I can see the blue wall of America tottering from afar. In 2016, Donald Trump was able to win victories in the three blue wall states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. In 2020 he might sweep across the Democrats’ heartlands and have the wall completely demolished.

The Democrats are effectively riding the same Labour and Lib Dem train and hoping to reach a different destination. Unfortunately for them, history works in a more predictable way.

The US and Europe have seen in the past five years far-right bigotry skyrocketing. This was just the beginning. The second phase, which is likely to unravel during 2020, will witness its real surge. And as liberal democracy was an Anglo-Saxon remedy to Europe after the war, this might well be the Anglo-Saxon epidemic that, in the absence of any credible resistance and leadership, might devour the whole continent.

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Compare and contrast that video and its message to the platform, agenda, and approach of those running for president in the Dem party. It's night and day. November of 2020 is going to be a very good year for President Trump.

^^^ Barf. What a load of tripe.

(The Independent article)

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Most fact-driven people, with a little bit of sanity, know that Trump should have been removed from the White House long ago, let alone giving him the chance of being there from the beginning.

More evidence the left is delusional.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
^^^ Barf. What a load of tripe.

(The Independent article)

Ahmed is full of shit

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
^^^ Barf. What a load of tripe.

(The Independent article)

Ahmed is full of shit

Couldn't resist.

flashguy

The Bourbons, and the Left: “They have learned nothing; and have forgotten nothing.” (attributed to Talleyrand)

https://thehill.com/homenews/a...rs-to-wealthy-donors

behind the scenes in recent months, former President Obama has gone to bat for Warren (D-Mass.) when speaking to donors reluctant to support her given her knocks on Wall Street and the wealthy.

And if Warren becomes the nominee, Obama has said they must throw the entirety of their support behind her.

The former president has stopped short of an endorsement of Warren in these conversations and has emphasized that he is not endorsing in the Democratic primary race.

But he also has vouched for her credentials, making it clear in these private sessions that he deems her a capable candidate and potential president, sources say.

“He’s asked all of the candidates who have sought his advice three questions: Is your family behind you? Why you? And why now? She checked the box for all,” said one longtime Obama ally.

“He obviously thinks she’s very smart,” one Democratic donor added. “He thinks her policy ideas matter. And I think he sees her running the campaign with the most depth.”

A source close to Obama said the former president would go to bat in the same way for any of the Democratic candidates running for president, pointing to comments Obama made last month.

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I hope Warren is the DEM candidate

Well...if Obama checked her creds she must be legit!

Count me among those confused by various claims of Senate powers & responsibilities regarding "impeachment".

And color with additional confusion when tossing in the "Nixon case". No, not Richard Nixon.

SCOTUS voted 9-0 in 1993 regarding plenary power of Senate. BAM. No 'trial' and Upchuck Schumer tribulations required.

If this document is true, I'm all for it.

https://www.thepostemail.com/2...uit-president-trump/

"presence of such compelling and substantial evidence of the abuse of power..."

The only compelling and substantial evidence seen yet to date regards Biden's uncorked confession regarding the extortion of the Ukrainian prosecutor's office to get Viktor Shokin fired, to alleviate pressure on young Hoover Biden's employer, Burisma.

There is also good reason to suspect that the "impeachment" sham was a conspiracy involving Schiff-fer-brains' office

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Most fact-driven people, with a little bit of sanity, know that Trump should have been removed from the White House long ago, let alone giving him the chance of being there from the beginning.

More evidence the left is delusional.

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He made some statement the other day about how women make much better leaders than men. Didn't think he was referring to Warren.

I would like to know how Pelosi feels the Senate trial is unfair when the House hearings didn't allow the President to have attorneys present or call witnesses in his defense.

The whole House hearings were a case of he's guilty and we're going to prove it. That isn't how our justice system works.

Aside from that, for me the root cause of the issue is real illegal activity by Biden and son. I don't see how being a political opponent makes him immune from investigation.

Maybe I'm not thinking about this whole impeachment thing appropriately at this stage, but why would McConnell even discuss the trial aspect of this at all at this point. Seems that maybe the approach could be to hold a vote right out of the gate (assuming the articles are ever released to the senate) to determine if the two articles are even valid as a basis for impeachment. Since neither represents a crime, and SCOTUS has already taken up the executive's appeal about having to release info to Congress effectively invalidating Article # 2, a simple majority vote could invalidate the entire impeachment farce.

I just don't see why the senate should allow this BS any credibility/validity at all by accepting that its worthy of a trial.

Awesome Trump re-election video

Not a real one but it should be.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...W1w&feature=emb_logo

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
I would like to know how Pelosi feels the Senate trial is unfair when the House hearings didn't allow the President to have attorneys present or call witnesses in his defense.

Well, that's because she is referring to fairness to the accuser--the prosecutor--and not the accused. Commies will be commies.

This one is SO appropriate right now: