This is interesting. I’ve never heard of a President consulting the enlisted. Likely a good thing...

Report: Trump held private, enlisted-only Afghanistan war meetings – ‘No generals or officers, only enlisted guys that have been there’

Since taking office, President Donald Trump has been meeting with enlisted troops to get a better understanding of how they feel the war in Afghanistan has been progressing.

Trump did not want to meet with higher ranking officers, instead choosing to meet with enlisted troops to get a more candid assessment of the America’s longest-running war, Business Insider reported.

“I want to sit down with some enlisted guys that have been there,” Trump reportedly told advisers, according to Peter Bergen, author of “Trump and His Generals: The Cost of Chaos.”

“I don’t want any generals in here. I don’t want any officers,” he added.

Enlisted members of the military may have been seen as better able to critique the war effort as their roles tend to place them closer to combat and the consequences of a command. Enlisted members are also less concerned with the day-to-day politics that might affect higher ranking officers.

Trump reportedly compared the opinions of senior military officers to those of a restaurant consultant. Rather than taking the advice of the consultant, who would suggest expanding a kitchen for renovations, Trump argued it would be more prudent and cost effective to ask the advice of the waiters who see the day to day operations and can identify the most basic problems in a restaurant’s functions.

One of the first groups Trump reportedly met with were enlisted Navy SEALs who criticized the war and said the war in Afghanistan is “unwinnable.”

“NATO’s a joke. Nobody knows what they’re doing,” the SEALs reportedly told Trump. “We don’t fight to win. The morale is terrible. It’s totally corrupt.”

On another occasion on July 18, 2017, Trump held a White House meeting with four more Army and Air Force senior enlisted service members.

“I’ve heard plenty of ideas from a lot of people, but I want to hear it from the people on the ground,” Trump said at a press conference for the July 2017 meeting.

Following that meeting, Trump reportedly gathered senior military officials to the White House situation room, where he then warned that the enlisted members he spoke with know “a lot more than you generals,” and said that “we’re losing” the war in Afghanistan.

Many senior military officials expressed similar misgivings about the war when speaking candidly with U.S. government agency Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) in an effort to identify failures in Afghanistan. Those candid assessments of those officers, coupled with their more positive public views of the war effort, formed the basis of the ‘Afghanistan Papers;’ which have identified dishonest official views and reports of the war in Afghanistan.

The Trump administration has since gone back and forth on how to bring about an end to the 18-year war. Trump had engaged in peace talks with the Taliban, but called off the negotiations after deadly Taliban attacks throughout the process. Talks briefly resumed in December but were again paused over renewed attacks.

Recent reports have also alleged a Trump decision for the withdrawal of up to 4,000 U.S. troops in the coming weeks and months, though no Trump administration officials have publicly confirmed the reporting.

https://americanmilitarynews.c...hat-have-been-there/

Trump ends Obama's Operation Choke Point

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The Trump administration has ended Operation Choke Point, the anti-fraud initiative started under the Obama administration that many Republicans argued was used to target gun retailers and other businesses that Democrats found objectionable.

Assistant Attorney General Stephen Boyd told GOP representatives in a Wednesday letter that the long-running program had ended, bringing a conclusion to a chapter in the Obama years that long provoked and angered conservatives who saw Choke Point as an extra-legal crackdown on politically disfavored groups.

[/QUOTE]Kennedy echoed his warning publicly during a Fox News interview pledging that if Democrats want a “full-blown trial,” by calling witnesses Republicans oppose, GOP senators would follow suite.

“If they want a trial,” he said, “my God, we are going to have a trial.”[/QUOTE]

This trial,when it comes, "Will" be worth watching to see the Dems fall apart and cook their own goose/nuts in the hilarity that will issue from the proceedings. We live in very interesting times Ladies and Gents. So try to remember as much as possible to tell the Grandchildren the Famous story of how America was brought back from the brink of dissolving. Brought back with Gods use of a man many think uncouth and brass. But he was and is chosen to lead us into a brighter future of Love and respect for what is right and good. Further draining of the swamp is the obvious plan for the second term and we need to help see it happens. For God uses people, places and things to get our attention and make changes to this world as needed. If we only do our part. Keep oil in your lamps and the wicks trimmed. For we will need to shine the light on the wickedness that is still, and will be with us as long as we are here.

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Thanks. Here it is again.

https://thehill.com/homenews/s...eedy-trump-acquittal

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
This is interesting. I’ve never heard of a President consulting the enlisted. Likely a good thing...

Report: Trump held private, enlisted-only Afghanistan war meetings – ‘No generals or officers, only enlisted guys that have been there’

Since taking office, President Donald Trump has been meeting with enlisted troops to get a better understanding of how they feel the war in Afghanistan has been progressing.

Trump did not want to meet with higher ranking officers, instead choosing to meet with enlisted troops to get a more candid assessment of the America’s longest-running war, Business Insider reported.

“I want to sit down with some enlisted guys that have been there,” Trump reportedly told advisers, according to Peter Bergen, author of “Trump and His Generals: The Cost of Chaos.”

“I don’t want any generals in here. I don’t want any officers,” he added.
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Great post, feersum!! That is damned smart!! If he's meeing with only the NCO's, those guys will tell it exactly how it is! Getting information from where "the metal meets the meat"...DAMNED smart!!

I have yet to tire from all the winning!!!

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Great post, feersum!! That is damned smart!! If he's meeing with only the NCO's, those guys will tell it exactly how it is! Getting information from where "the metal meets the meat"...DAMNED smart!!

I have yet to tire from all the winning!!!

I’m reminded of the faxed joke that I had on the wall in my cubicle in the early nineties. I want to say it was titled “The Plan”. The line employee was asked about the plan. His response was, “It is a crock of shit and it stinks!” As it passed up through the ranks it was softened, passing through “fertilizer” and ending up described as “That which aids growth and is very strong!” Upon being told this, the company president saw that it was good and ordered the plan implemented. The last line, below a little vertical white space, is: “And that is how shit happens.”

Perhaps our President has seen a version of the joke and is looking for unvarnished opinions.

I wonder if he’ll be able to make much progress on repairing some of the damage OBlunder did to the officer Corp. if one is operating in a political environment (and let’s face it, executive positions in a large company or flag positions in the military are nothing if not political) one must know the political environment and fit in. When you have a “leader” like OBlunder who makes it abundantly clear he doesn’t want to hear anything contrary to his way of thinking you will either become a yes-man very adept at polishing turds or you will be shown the door. What is truly needed, and what I suspect our President is working hard to develop, is a leadership team that outwardly supports and promotes “the company line” while privately giving honest feedback and advice. I suspect the one thing PDJT’s staff will have learned not to say is “That’s impossible.” It doesn’t take much imagination to hear him responding, “Hush and get out of the way so I don’t run over you while I do it.” A much better response might be, “We haven’t figured out how to do that yet Mr. President, but we’re on it and will report back soon with a plan.”

Not tired of winning either.

above is a DJT re-tweet

Heheh. The "Impeachment Pizza". I guess it has NOTHING on it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I would add to the list of REAL news men and women:

Mike Gallagher
Dennis Prager
Dr. Sebastian Gorka (always think of Gurkha cigars when I hear/see his name )
Sam Malone (local Houston radio host...STAUNCH Conservative! And HILARIOUS!!)
"The Sage" Larry Elder
Jay Sekulow
Moon Griffon (pronounced "gre-FONN" out of Lafayette, LA)

Honorable mention:

Bill O'Reilly

For the love of all that is good and holy, NEVER EVER include:

Michael Medved (friggin' closet Libtard)
Hugh Hewiit

Also should add Andrew Wilkow to that list of people that report the Real news.

Idle question for the constitution savvy among us.

If nancy sends the articles over to the senate and they voted to remove the Don, would he be able to run for election in 2020?

Yea, I know the senate is not going to remove him, but damn the landslide he would win by would be a huge FU to the swamp.

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Dennis Prager

Yep, that gentleman deserves a spot on that list, for sure. He's a good man to have on our side.

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If nancy sends the articles over to the senate and they voted to remove the Don, would he be able to run for election in 2020?

I don't foresee this happening, but I've found myself wondering as well. I've seen some silly speculation about them impeaching Trump, removing him office, Pence takes over, Trump wins 2020 handily, and then since his first term was "nullified," he'd possibly be eligible for another two election cycles. I don't believe it and like I said, it seems like silly speculation, but if that's accurate and Trump is up for it, wouldn't that be a real kick in the taint for the Dem's?

Hey Smudge...did you get an e-mail from me? Sent it to the address in your profile.

I like that President Trump thinks very far outside the box. He probably told someone at some point ‘what box’

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I would add to the list of REAL news men and women:

Mike Gallagher
Dennis Prager
Dr. Sebastian Gorka (always think of Gurkha cigars when I hear/see his name )
Sam Malone (local Houston radio host...STAUNCH Conservative! And HILARIOUS!!)
"The Sage" Larry Elder
Jay Sekulow
Moon Griffon (pronounced "gre-FONN" out of Lafayette, LA)

If we're going to list Conservative talk show hosts, I'll add Dan Proft. You'll hear his name more soon. He's been on a local radio station here in Chicago, but he's going national.

Good news IMO.

“Donald Trump's national security adviser said Sunday that Mike Pompeo told him he doesn't intend to run for a Senate seat in Kansas in 2020.

Robert O'Brien told ABC News that instead the Secretary of State intends to stay in his position with the Trump administration.

'I hope and expect that Secretary Pompeo will stay,' O'Brien told ABC News White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl Sunday morning.

'I spoke with him about this two nights ago,' O'Brien continued. 'He said he's not running for Senate. He said he's staying in as secretary of state. And I'm – this is one American who's very pleased that the president picked Mike and that Mike is committed to staying.' …”

https://mol.im/a/7834701