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Could they possibly withhold the articles in hope of retaking the Senate in 2020? If Trump is reelected (when he is), if they retake the Senate, they could just use the articles to remove him, right?

No.
The actions of one Congress do not bind a future Congress. The House would have to vote again on impeachment.

I'm guessing that's what all the mention of "this is all about a clock, and a calendar" was about. Good to know.

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Originally posted by RNshooter:
I have a question:

Could they possibly withhold the articles in hope of retaking the Senate in 2020? If Trump is reelected (when he is), if they retake the Senate, they could just use the articles to remove him, right?

They might even use it as a rallying cry: "Hey, we can't keep him from getting reelected, but we can remove him! Give us 51 Senators!"
They might even shift strategy to focus on Senate races when they realize that the Presidency is out of reach, with their lousy candidates.

Is this possible?

Bruce

The articles expire. As I understand it, they'd have to:
-Retain the house (not looking good for the dems so far since the people who showed up in 2016 who didn't show up in 2018 will show up in 2020 and regain seats lost in 2018 or more)
-Re-impeach The President all over again
-Gain a majority in the senate to move forward with a trial(not looking good either).
-Require a 2/3rd's majority in the Senate to remove President Trump.

With the amount of donations that have poured in to the Trump war chest this year and just this week alone, plus the economy, plus the lack of a viable contender, plus the siphoning of black voters, democratic voters and independents that were unsure of President Trump four years ago....it's not remotely probable that they will be successful in removing The President.

Tony.

Hehe

can't take credit for this but they have a name for the STD that causes a $40 million waste on a fake impeachment

its called Schiffilis

^^^

Worse than the 7 year itch...which will become the 8 year itch after he's re-elected!

This made me laugh...these rocket "sturgeons" are going to explode in 2020 ...it's hard to believe the ignorance of some people




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/ilDj1JcdpVE

^^ Makes me feel like that guy in Idiocracy. If I hang out with these people, I am the smartest man in the world by default.

Boy, are they gonna be pissed when someone exxxxxxxxplaaaaaaaaainssss impeachment to them.

Jeff Flake...Fuck this RINO!!! glad he is gone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...019d451db_story.html

By Jeff Flake
December 20, 2019 at 5:40 PM EST
Jeff Flake, a Republican, represented Arizona in the U.S. Senate from 2013 to 2019. He is a resident fellow at Harvard University and a contributor to CBS News.
To my former Senate Republican colleagues,
I don’t envy you.
It might not be fair, but none of the successes, achievements and triumphs you’ve had in public office — whatever bills you’ve passed, hearings you’ve chaired, constituents you have had the privilege of helping — will matter more than your actions in the coming months.
President Trump is on trial. But in a very real sense, so are you. And so is the political party to which we belong.
The latest Trump impeachment updates

As we approach the time when you do your constitutional duty and weigh the evidence arrayed against the president, I urge you to remember who we are when we are at our best. And I ask you to remember yourself at your most idealistic.

We are conservatives. The political impulses that compelled us all to enter public life were defined by sturdy pillars anchored deep in the American story. Chief among these is a realistic view of power and of human nature, and a corresponding and healthy mistrust of concentrated and impervious executive power. Mindful of the base human instincts that we all possess, the founders of our constitutional system designed its very architecture to curb excesses of power.
Those curbs are especially important when the power is wielded by a president who denies reality itself and calls his behavior not what it is, but “perfect.”
Personally, I have never met anyone whose behavior can be described as perfect, but so often has the president repeated this obvious untruth that it has become a form of dogma in our party. And sure enough, as dogma demands, there are members of our party denying objective reality by repeating the line that “the president did nothing wrong.” My colleagues, the danger of an untruthful president is compounded when an equal branch follows that president off the cliff, into the abyss of unreality and untruth.

Call it the founders’ blind spot: They simply could not have envisioned the Article I branch abetting and enabling such dangerous behavior in the Article II branch. And when we are complicit, we cede our constitutional responsibilities, we forever redefine the relationship between Congress and the White House, and we set the most dangerous of precedents.
My simple test for all of us: What if President Barack Obama had engaged in precisely the same behavior? I know the answer to that question with certainty, and so do you. You would have understood with striking clarity the threat it posed, and you would have known exactly what to do.
Regarding the articles of impeachment, you could reasonably conclude that the president’s actions warrant his removal. You might also determine that the president’s actions do not rise to the constitutional standard required for removal. There is no small amount of moral hazard with each option, but both positions can be defended.

But what is indefensible is echoing House Republicans who say that the president has not done anything wrong. He has.
The willingness of House Republicans to bend to the president’s will by attempting to shift blame with the promotion of bizarre and debunked conspiracy theories has been an appalling spectacle. It will have long-term ramifications for the country and the party, to say nothing of individual reputations.
Nearly all of you condemned the president’s behavior during the 2016 campaign. Nearly all of you refused to campaign with him. You knew then that doing so would be wrong — would be a stain on your reputation and the standing of the Republican Party, and would do lasting damage to the conservative cause.
Ask yourself today: Has the president changed his behavior? Has he grown in office? Has the mantle of the presidency altered his conduct? The answer is obvious. In fact, if the president’s political rally in Michigan on Wednesday is any measure, his language has only become more vulgar, his performance cruder, his behavior more boorish and unstable.

Next, ask yourself: If the president’s conduct hasn’t changed, has mine? Before President Trump came on the scene, would I have stood at a rally and cheered while supporters shouted “lock her up” or “send them back”? Would I have laughed along while the president demeaned and ridiculed my colleagues? Would I have ever thought to warm up the crowd for the president by saying of the House speaker: “It must suck to be that dumb”?
As I said above, I don’t envy you. You’re on a big stage now. Please don’t accept an alternate reality that would have us believe in things that obviously are not true, in the service of executive behavior that we never would have encouraged and a theory of executive power that we have always found abhorrent.
If there ever was a time to put country over party, it is now. And by putting country over party, you might just save the Grand Old Party before it’s too late.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
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Joke's on Nancy, because if she refuses to ship the thing to the Senate, then the whole impeachment was a joke. And now it looks like she's boxed herself into a corner. Either she sends that thing to the Senate on Mitch McConnell's terms or ... there was no impeachment. Talk about hoisted on her own petard...

I don't think there is a time limit on submitting Articles of Impeachment to the Senate--for all I know it can wait years, undiminished in power. I think Nancy Pelosi is willing to delay until after the 2020 election, hoping that the Democrats retake the Senate. Convince me I'm wrong.

flashguy

If you think that she can hold onto that shit for months, I think you are very much mistaken. Thre's no way that such a maneuver would be considered valid, and any rational person would condemn such horse shit. No way that's gonna happen. The clock is ticking on this airhead old bag.

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
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Joke's on Nancy, because if she refuses to ship the thing to the Senate, then the whole impeachment was a joke. And now it looks like she's boxed herself into a corner. Either she sends that thing to the Senate on Mitch McConnell's terms or ... there was no impeachment. Talk about hoisted on her own petard...

I don't think there is a time limit on submitting Articles of Impeachment to the Senate--for all I know it can wait years, undiminished in power. I think Nancy Pelosi is willing to delay until after the 2020 election, hoping that the Democrats retake the Senate. Convince me I'm wrong.

flashguy

Scroll to the top of the page.

Bruce

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Convince me I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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Originally posted by flashguy:
Convince me I'm wrong.

You are wrong.

Took those very words right out of my mouth.

Couldn't agree more Bisleyblackhawk. Rino bastards are just as bad as the left, one and the same.

Oh my! This is good.



“ If they ever decide to send the Articles to the Senate.......A Total of 2 American Presidents will have been impeached
For Humiliating HILLARY”. - Juanita Broaddrick

Around the neighborhood rumor mill, I heard someone say that if a President were impeached, his term would be null and void, thus allowing him [Constitutionally] to run again for potentially two more terms. I don't think this is true, but I'm sure someone here can prove or disprove it.

My goodness, if it were true I would think the left would be howling in agony right now with the thought of 12 years' worth of MAGA.

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Originally posted by Bisleyblackhawk:
Jeff Flake......

Hey Jeff we don't care about your opinion.

^^^^^
That, and Flakes's 15 minutes was up a loooooooooong time ago. "...and the horse on which he rode."