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Oriental Redneck
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Hey, fire is destroying thousands of acres in the LA area and burning down people's homes, but at least the good news is that FJB is a great grandfather today!

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2...oud-imagine-n2184108

That goddamned son of a bitch. January 20th cannot get here soon enough.


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Another fire has started in the Hollywood hills.
 
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Another fire has started in the Hollywood hills.


Given that the winds on the ground are pretty mild at the the moment v. the over-the-top finds that started the other fires, this one is suspicious.

L.A has enough nuts that it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out a crazy person started it.
 
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After years of being told about forest management and fire risk remediation, and ignoring those warnings. I just can't find any compassion for these people.

Huh?
You do understand this is a urban fire, not a wilderness/wildland fire... Check out a map or, two, these are homes right next to each other sharing fence lines, block after block. Completely different situation than a forest fire.
This fire is a case of poor resource management by department and city leadership, along with a massive dose of underfunding.
 
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Originally posted by FenderBender:
After years of being told about forest management and fire risk remediation, and ignoring those warnings. I just can't find any compassion for these people.

Huh?
You do understand this is a urban fire, not a wilderness/wildland fire... Check out a map or, two, these are homes right next to each other sharing fence lines, block after block. Completely different situation than a forest fire.
This fire is a case of poor resource management by department and city leadership, along with a massive dose of underfunding.


This right here.
 
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Holy shit! The fucking imbecile.

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The state hasn’t built a new reservoir in 45+ years. The state population is nearly double today the last time a reservoir was built.

The Santa Ana winds have been blowing for millennia.

But I’m pretty sure it’s climate change…


The democrats have a supermajority and control every office in CA…. I gotta ask these folks: Is it bad enough yet?
 
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At 0500Z It’s looking like the LA valley now has eight big, uncontrolled wildfires, with the new ones popping in the West Hollywood/ Century City neighborhood. It reminds me of the 1991 Oakland firestorm that burned itself out by consuming the available fuel.

God help them if this gets out of hand. There a MST of consumables in that basin. In a way, it reminds me of Tokyo in the first week of March 1945.





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With 1000÷ buildings gone, the insurance payout is likely approaching 3 billion.





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With 1000÷ buildings gone, the insurance payout is likely approaching 3 billion.

2000 and growing...

The topography of the Palisades Fire has the potential to race through those canyons and reach up into the Valley through Calabasas and Woodland Hills. The Eaton fire is up against some seriously steep terrain, same also with the Hurst (Sylmar) fire which seems to burn every other year. The Sunset fire, right in the middle of Hollywood has the potential to become the most costly fire ever as it has some of the most high-priced neighborhoods in the entire US in its path...Laurel Canyon, Coldwater Canyon, Holmby Hills, Franklin Canyon, Bel Air.
 
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After years of being told about forest management and fire risk remediation, and ignoring those warnings. I just can't find any compassion for these people.

Huh?
You do understand this is a urban fire, not a wilderness/wildland fire... Check out a map or, two, these are homes right next to each other sharing fence lines, block after block. Completely different situation than a forest fire.
This fire is a case of poor resource management by department and city leadership, along with a massive dose of underfunding.


Let's check back in a week or two, see what shakes out.
 
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What went wrong?

Meagan Kelly Report

Skip to the 6:50 mark if you don't want to watch the whole broadcast

https://youtu.be/D31MNyo1awo?si=j4CgA08yd3ghC7Sb


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I follow a Meteorologist with a page called WXrisk, summed it up nicely.

WELCOME TO ANOTHER BLACK SWAN EVENT :

I have a family member who has relatives who were extremely well known, very rich connected physicians in Southern California and Los Angeles. They bought a mansion in Pacific Palisades 25 years ago for probably a million dollars - I don't even know what it's worth now. At least up until 3 days ago. (And yes we have visited them many times to their beautiful Pacific Palisades home.)

Yes it has been wiped out. burnt to the ground. Oddly enough some of my family members are recalling one of my comments when we first came out there 25 years ago. I looked at all the undergrowth and small bushes, dried weeds, small trees, dense undergrowth and scrubs and said “this is a fire trap. I can't believe people are actually building these homes in these areas.”

#PacificPalisades #PacificPalisadesFire #PalisadesFire #BlackSwan #lafires

Well here we are in another Black Swan event - The last one of course was Hurricane Helene in the mountains of Western North Carolina but now we have this one.

There are of course extenuating circumstances. For example it may be true that this is the first time Los Angeles County has ever had to fight four major wildfires at the same time. And it may also be true that the high persistent Winds of made things much worse by causing rapid moisture depletion in vegetation.

But comments from ignorant dumb as shit conspiracy kooks are making things worse because their comments hide the TRUTH.

Yes it is correct that the fires in Pacific Palisades have nothing to do with climate change.

Yes the fire management has been very bad and if you are living in LA you can't ever cut the budget for any firefighters Personnel skills or equipment or training. That is all true.

BUT this is the key point :

No one should be building these kinds of multimillion dollar homes in places like Topanga Canyon and Pacific Palisades hills.
Look, these Hills ALWAYS always catch on fire --it is part of their natural ecological process which has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years in the California Mediterranean climate.

When they get big rains there is rapid vegetative growth and southern California over the last couple of years has seen a lot of rain with a reservoir as being completely replenished if not overflowing. Sage underbrush small trees explode across THE landscape but when Southern California moves into dry cycle these areas become very susceptible to catching fire.

The difference 100 years ago, a thousand years ago humans didn't have these huge multi-million dollar homes built into areas which are Essentially firetraps. It is very much the same problem as building these huge ocean vacation beach homes on the Barrier Islands which get blasted by hurricanes, Coastal storms, and nor'easters -sometimes several times in a single year.

Yeah sure many of these people are super rich and they can rebuild. guys like James Wood and Mark Hamill who are as politically different as possible are both suffering the same fate because they (and most of us ) push it and go against the laws of the universe.

Rebuilding does not take away the suffering that all -- even the super wealthy-- have to go through as they watch their entire home life and family memories get blasted away in a horrendous rapidly moving fire that is out of control.
 
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The idea that all Democrats there will be red pilled by this is fanciful, but I like the idea!

Maybe just enough will turn away from the Democrat party to finally effect change


https://x.com/ericabbenante/st...207054105886836?s=46



 
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Originally posted by corsair:
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After years of being told about forest management and fire risk remediation, and ignoring those warnings. I just can't find any compassion for these people.

Huh?
You do understand this is a urban fire, not a wilderness/wildland fire... Check out a map or, two, these are homes right next to each other sharing fence lines, block after block. Completely different situation than a forest fire.
This fire is a case of poor resource management by department and city leadership, along with a massive dose of underfunding.


This right here.



These fires seem to be both. "The blaze claimed more than 1,000 structures and devoured nearly 16,000 acres by early Wednesday evening" from https://nypost.com/2025/01/08/...tructive-blaze-ever/

I've seen other reports of far higher numbers, but that's the one I could find and quote.

16,000 acres = a square measuring five miles by five miles.

I think you can blame infrastructure mismanagement - no new reservoirs in nearly 50 years, funding homeless people people more than the fire department, giving away "surplus" fire equipment to Ukraine - and also forestry mismanagement.

If they want to fix this, they have to build reservoirs, fund fire equipment and KEEP IT, mandate metal or other fire-resistant siding and roofing on new construction, and mandate fire breaks and other good forestry practices.

I predict the state and local governments will do the exact opposite of this.


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NEW: The Hollywood area is completely gridlocked as residents rush to evacuate as the fire in the Hollywood Hills approaches.

Re:Newest fire: Sunset Fire in the Hollywood Hills area

You would think that if you're already surrounded by 3 rapidly expanding fires you wouldn't wait for a new fire to decide to get out.

https://x.com/TaraBull808/stat...estroyed-over-130000




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Joe Rogan's LA fire warning six months ago...

https://x.com/YayAreaNews/stat...estroyed-over-130000




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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The idea that all Democrats there will be red pilled by this is fanciful, but I like the idea!

Maybe just enough will turn away from the Democrat party to finally effect change


No, they'll just do what many of the other Democrat Californians do: leave CA because they're tired of the Democrat-related bullshit (fire and water mismanagement being just one symptom of many), move to a different state, and then try to impose all their Democrat bullshit there like it won't end up with the exact same result in a few decades.

They're going to take their fat insurance checks, move to Texas/Idaho/Montana/etc., buy an even bigger house for half the cost (but double what a local would be willing to pay), and continue on doing the same damn thing.
 
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