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As usual, they're blaming this on "climate change".
Their government is criminally incompetent.
Fires and mudslides regularly happen there but it's always unforeseen, they say.
They have their pronouns down, but basic public safety is a mystery.


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As usual, they're blaming this on "climate change".
Their government is criminally incompetent.
Fires and mudslides regularly happen there but it's always unforeseen, they say.
They have their pronouns down, but basic public safety is a mystery.

The climate-change excuse doesn't wash in built-up/urban areas.
This is pure mismanagement with a possible dose of illegal encampment fire getting out of control. Topanga Canyon is a well known hippie refuge.


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Oregon and Washington are sending strike teams this morning.

It's a 1000 mile drive for them just to get there.
 
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Look, I don't want to be a pedant about this, but there are no planes not because of no water but because it's too dangerous for planes/helicopters right now. The winds are gusting at 80 mph and the pilots would be flying in zero visibility situations with mountain/canyon topography and up/down draft situations AND firestorm situations. Planes just can't go now.


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Just heard about the Eaton wildfire this afternoon, had no idea. I grew up in the area, actually lived in two different houses in the evacuation areas of the fire. Read that at 6:30am today, it was 3000 acres, and four hours later, it expanded to almost 11,000 acres. My sister lives in a town six miles away from the evacuation line of the fire, I just texted her, crazy smoke but she'll be fine, but what a clusterfuck.

There is ZERO excuse for empty fire hydrants, just insane.



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As usual, they're blaming this on "climate change".
Their government is criminally incompetent.
Fires and mudslides regularly happen there but it's always unforeseen, they say.
They have their pronouns down, but basic public safety is a mystery.


James Woods lost his home, along with many others, someone offered up the Climate Change excuse and his retort is classic James Woods.

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/s.../1876941213703565373

 
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There is ZERO excuse for empty fire hydrants, just insane.


Agreed, but that has nothing to do with the lack of planes in the air.


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been livestreaming the the coverage on KTLA
 
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They did this to themselves. This is what decades of mismanagement gets you. I'll keep the people in my prayers, its terrible situation.


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People evacuating leave their cars, locked, on the roads preventing fire fighters reaching homes.




James Woods lost his home, his Twitter page had personal videos and images of the fire near his house. He also states that one of the major insurance companies canceled all policies in his neighborhood four months ago. https://www.breitbart.com/poli...es-before-wildfires/

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/s.../1877046767755084027



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I lived in the foothills in Orange County '02-'05. Even back then California wasn't maintaining fire breaks like they were supposed to which resulted in fires getting into residential areas.

Since then, they've gotten worse and began blocking electric companies from doing right-of-way maintenance so the brush contacting the electrical equipment is starting fires.

The next thing that will strike these hilly burned areas is landslides. It's a viscous circle where they have a 4-month rainy season (it's pretty modest as in 12" total) where brush grows, followed by 8 months of drought where brush dies, then they get fires in the dry brush, and next rainy season there is no longer any brush holding up their soil with crap structural integrity so they get landslides.



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One of my earliest memories is of watching Watts burn during the riots in 1965. My parents had decamped to the home of a retired USMC Brigadier General they knew from when we lived in Vegas, so we weren't quite as exposed to the danger in Hermosa Beach.

The General's house had huge picture windows looking over the LA basin.

Today the residents of Watts get to watch Palos Verdes and Malibu burn.





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The politicians are never held accountable for their decisions and never pay a price, other than possibly not being re-elected:

California Rules Caused Insurance Companies to Cancel Policies Before Wildfires

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) and the Democrat-run government of California caused insurance companies to cancel many of their fire insurance policies — with many residents of Pacific Palisades losing their policies just before the wildfires.

As Breitbart News has reported for years, many insurance companies have stopped selling new policies in California “because of the increased risk of wildfires and the rising costs of construction in the state — and because the state’s regulators will not allow it to price new policies based on future anticipated risk, only on historical risk.”

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...es-before-wildfires/



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Heard from work colleagues in SoCal that the fire above Pasadena, the Eaton Fire has burned large swaths of Altadena and LaCanada, whipping-out many of the Spanish Revival-styled homes that were built back in the early mid-century period. This is the area above and around the Rose Bowl and Jet Propulsion Laboratory.




Nothing in the Communist handbook on how to deal with this self-inflicted catastrophe huh, asshole?
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Just heard about the Eaton wildfire this afternoon, had no idea. I grew up in the area, actually lived in two different houses in the evacuation areas of the fire. Read that at 6:30am today, it was 3000 acres, and four hours later, it expanded to almost 11,000 acres. My sister lives in a town six miles away from the evacuation line of the fire, I just texted her, crazy smoke but she'll be fine, but what a clusterfuck.

There is ZERO excuse for empty fire hydrants, just insane.


Fire hydrants DO NOT get water directly from a reservoir. They receive water from tanks up high (mountain and hill tops in Socal, towers in flat areas). From the tanks the water gets its pressure (pumps might help a bit).

In this situation, four (4) 1,000,000 gallon tanks were emptied in less than 18 hours. They do get replenished but the rate of usage due to four (or five?) MAJOR fires drained them too fast hence, water pressure at higher elevations was not present. Water is available closer to sea level.






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Not that she could, will do or make any dynamic decisions on how to fight a fire but;

Why in the hell is the Mayor of Los Angelas in Ghana, Africa, to attend an inauguration of a politician? Who pays for her travel/expense for that horse shit and what is Ghana offering back to Los Angelas??

Thank goodness we moved out of that state.
Rant over.


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Hey, fire is destroying thousands of acres in the LA area and burning down people's homes, but at least the good news is that FJB is a great grandfather today!

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2...oud-imagine-n2184108



 
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After years of being told about forest management and fire risk remediation, and ignoring those warnings. I just can't find any compassion for these people.
 
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