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NASCAR has determined the knotted loop was in place in Oct 2019.

NASCAR's findings follow an FBI investigation that determined Wallace, the only Black driver in NASCAR's top racing division, was not the victim of a hate crime. Federal law enforcement officials confirmed the noose was in Wallace's garage since last October, long before he and his team were assigned the stall for this past weekend's scheduled race.

https://www.npr.org/sections/l...ot-into-driver-s-gar
 
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The noose was just fine for Paul Menard. Why is no one investigating how Bubba Smollett got assigned to the only stall at the track that had the noose?

The NASCAR representative should be held responsible for the same amount of bullshit they think everyone else is subject to.



 
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Go to 9:10 in the Bubba Wallace, Don Lemon interview.

Bubba Wallace: “From the evidence that I have It was a straight up noose.”
“I can confirm that I actually got evidence of what was hanging in my garage, over my car around my pit crew guys, to confirm that it was a noose.”

Bubba took the race-baiting a bit further when he stated that the noose was hanging in his garage, over his car.

The rope was hanging along side his garage door attached to the garage door.
This is vastly different then someone hanging a noose over his car.




“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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I'm not about to waste my band-width listening to ANYTHING this ass-hat liar has to say. Like I said in my post on the previous page, that picture looks like totally different (new) rope and my bullshit meter is pegged at Eleventy.



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Originally posted by kimber1911:
The newly released NASCAR image is not the same knot as shown in previous year videos of the garage area.

The newly released image is a new knot on a new rope, intended to clearly look like a noose.

Not the same Knot.


They are not the same knot because they are from different garages. The first picture was from Garage #45, as clearly shown in the video you link. Wallace was assigned Garage #4. So different garage, different rope.

That said, the picture released by NASCAR shows a rope "noose" that does not look like it's been hanging out in the wild for 8 months, and presumably used many times. No weathering, no stains, etc.
 
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^^^^ I updated my post and provided links.^^^^

Thinking a bunch of old white guy’s are starting to get tired of being pegged as a racist, simply because of our skin color.

NASCAR just called 85% of their fans racist, by the way they reacted to a garage door pull.
Guess they saw the success of the NFL and decided to follow suit.
Not a good business model in my opinion.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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FWIW: Changing the "evidence" to fit the narrative of a crime when reporting the incident to the FBI and/or local police department is in fact a criminal offense. Replacing the alleged "evidence" with something more palatable for consumption by the general public as a means of rehabilitating image (NASCAR's as well as that of the reporting party) is not a crime, just a lie. You can bet every penny you own that the reporting party will not tell the investigating agencies the new pics are what was there previously or allow the original report(s)and evidence collected (including pics) to be released to the public.


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One thing is certain.

None of the ropes are hanging over Bubba’s car as he stated in his CNN interview.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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Things have changed so much during my lifetime! When I was a kid in school, if someone complained about being "offended," he'd never live it down. It would have been received just as if he cried and exclaimed, "You hurt my feelings!" Also, no one ever wanted to wear the moniker of "victim!" There's was, perhaps unjustifiably so, a certain similarity between 'victim' and 'loser.'

Yes - things have certainly changed in our culture during my lifetime.
 
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Nascar's photos of the garage pull are exactly as consistent as their rules and the enforcement of their rules! I anyone surprised?


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Things have changed so much during my lifetime! When I was a kid in school, if someone complained about being "offended," he'd never live it down. . . .


Years ago I learned a lesson from a friend, who told me "if you are offended you are a fool". Then he explained. If you take offense because the other person wants to offend you, you are a fool because you are doing exactly what your enemy wants you to do. And if you are offended when no offense is intended you are a fool because you are creating a problem for yourself that doesn't exist. So if you are offended, you are a fool.

I think my friend was correct.




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The newly released NASCAR image is not the same knot as shown in previous year videos of the garage area...

It's my understanding the top photo is a stock photo. It isn't the same stall. The loops in the garage door handles are common.



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hinking a bunch of old white guy’s are starting to get tired of being pegged as a racist, simply because of our skin color.

NASCAR just called 85% of their fans racist, by the way they reacted to a garage door pull.


Exactly, and Bubba just used them to advance the agenda of his sponsor, more air time, more divisiveness, and if you disagree, RACIST!
 
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As boy scouts we made nooses while sitting around the campfire way up in the Angeles Nat'l Forest two days hike from civilization. We did it because our assistant troop leader taught us how and because of the spaghetti western we used to watch. Mine never worked right, but the Scoutmaster made us take them apart for safety reasons. We resisted but he threatened disciplinary work so we complied. Not once did race enter the scene. Not once did it enter our minds. Today given those identical circumstances all the right individual needs to do is be offended and claim victim status and consequences will be imposed. We have allowed our culture to be poisoned with po lo itically correct moral supremacy.



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When I was in my early teens, I and other friends were intrigued by nooses and perfected making working models, then got bored as there was really no use for them,


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Oregon politician confesses to penning 'anonymous' racist letter to himself

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ore...acist-letter-himself
 
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Resign

Oh, wait, he has nothing to resign from, except the human race. That'll do.
 
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About nine months ago Syracuse University had a TERRIBLE series of HATEFUL messages left in dorms. RACIST messages. Feelings were hurt. Some students felt - wait for it - uncomfortable. I'm upset just thinking about the pain they felt.

Or not.

Gov Coumo (yes, that same turd) sent in the NY State Police and even asked the FBI to help.

https://www.syracuse.com/syrac...cuse-university.html

It was all over the paper but then the topic vanished from the news. I have not seen one word in ages. Usually that's a strong clue of a hoax.
 
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Oregon politician confesses to penning 'anonymous' racist letter to himself

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ore...acist-letter-himself


The last line of the article says “I never meant to file a report, it just kind of spiraled out,” Lopez told the newspaper.

So politician Lopez, the hateful fraud is not your fault??




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