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Your give-a-crap meter won't have to work very hard. Jeffxjet is talking about non-rev flights (a Delta term). Airline employees do it all the time and try to plan their trips according to flight bookings. They wouldn't get bumped if they bought a ticket. Go ahead jeffxjet, give us the full story on all your "bumpings". | |||
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| I am a leaf on the wind... |
My give a crap meter is done too. You guys are all obviously experts and know everything about the aviation industry so I'm going to stop wasting my breath trying to give you inside knowledge. It's not going to change any minds so I'm done. Let jljones give you the low down. Apparently living near a train depot is all it takes. _____________________________________ "We must not allow a mine shaft gap." | |||
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I guess this question will just have to go unanswered. Don't need to wonder why. . | |||
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So I guess you're not going to tell us about your gut wrenching "bumpings"? I'll bet they would bring us all to tears. I was looking forward to it, being a stupid ignorant wretch. You got bumped doing non-rev flights didn't you?  | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom  |
So overbooking makes the airline more money, so use some of that money to buy people out of their seats. I'm older and wiser, so I'm not jumping ship for $400 cash, but I'm still jumping if offered $4000. Someone will want cash money more than a seat. Make it worth their while. Beating the shit out of your customers because you don't want to pay them more is not acceptable. I don't care how much you need to get to your next gig. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom |
Any chance of getting the wanta-be brown shirts criminally prosecuted for assault? I'm sure they can claim they were just defending themselves from this 69 year old Kung Fu master. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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I heard talk of this possibility on the local Chicago news today. For what that's worth. It's a possibility since the brown-shirts were wearing jackets that said "Police" when in fact they are not Police, but private security. I think somebody mentioned this earlier in the thread, as well, and it's nice to see that there may be pressure on local prosecutors to go after the guys. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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I've learned a lot lurking this thread. Apparently no matter how obvious a situation appears, 2% of "experts" will stick to their preconvieved opinions while assuming the majority opinion is invalid. I appreciate experience, but I guess sometimes it prevents folks from considering an alternative. Reading this makes me want to tread very carefully in subjects where I consider myself an expert. | |||
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Or they have shareholders and employees to reassure. | |||
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It doesn't take an expert to know how to treat people. Your inside knowledge is worthless when it comes down to basic things that are typically taught to you as as kid. Treat people like you want to be treated. For years the aviation industry as a whole has pretty much treated it's customers as nothing more than cattle. There are some good people you encounter but upper and middle management only cares about the bottom line and not about the customer's well being. It's always about cramming more seats in the plane, cutting services provided, etc..... Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six | |||
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Desperation stinks so bad when you sell something people aren't buying. And we were so enjoying being talked down to. Forever what will we do?? Somehow I think your ego and the same lack of self control of other pilots in this thread won't disappoint! this is a bit troubling though. I'm hoping other airline employees have more self control than what has been demonstrated here | |||
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One question that I have not seen anyone try to answer: As PIC, are you or are you not in control over what happens on your aircraft? Specifically, when the police are beating someone on your airplane, do you or do you not own that situation? Not trying to start anything. I am honestly curious. | |||
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In the air, or even having left the gate and taxiing, PIC is PIC, no question. This situation, I don't know. Who is the Big Kahuna when the airplane is still at the gate and the boarding process is not complete? I have not used an airline for many years, but I remember some flights where passenger boarding started and the cockpit crew was not on board yet, so clearly there was no PIC on board at that time. Who bears ultimate responsibility in that situation? I don't know. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Res ipsa loquitur. That's lawyer talk.... "And gentlemen in England now abed, shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day" | |||
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The problem, as I see it, is, in the same breath as trying to explain why this fiasco happened, they are trying to justify or excuse it. There IS no justificaton or excuse. Another solution needs to be found, period. If it means messing up someone else's flight or a number of others down the line, or even an increase in the price of tickets in the future, that's what needs to happen. | |||
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Who called in the Pinkertons? Does ANYBODY know? And if he isn't a real cop, can he AND his employer be successfully sued along with the airline? Get them ALL, every last one involved, right down to the gate attendant that pointed them the way to go and get him. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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All of you guys saying they aren't the police need to do a quick google search on who they are. I'd also suggest not acting up any any airport, park, or other place that uses a police force separate from the municipal police force in that area. They are police. Real police, with the real authority to deal with miscreants. | |||
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OK, I did a google search, as you suggested, and this popped right up: "Limited authority" seems to imply that they are not "real" police, as does the fact that they are lobbying to be armed. After this show of intolerable behavior I hope they will not be armed with anything more serious than a water pistol. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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So next time you're in Chicago, tell any of them you don't have to do what they say because they aren't "real police". Come back and tell us how that works out for you.  I have friends locally who are "park rangers", and are also often accused of not being "real police". Did you read the Chicago Tribune link I provided? Been to their facebook page to look at their photos? They're real police. They may have a different duty, or may be subject to specific regulations of their department, but that doesn't mean they're not "real". Our airport also has it's own police force. Ours are armed. | |||
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