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Trust me. They claim ~600k people in Floria possess CCL's. The vast majority of those still in Florida during and after this storm will be carrying. I'll damn sure be one of them. I do not follow so called 'laws' that intentionally put me in at risk. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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We did not have the huge problem with looting after Katrina that New Orleans did. There was some. People take advantage of these situations, and it is wise to be armed. A local attorney used his shotgun to save his life. He was not expecting a 27 foot storm surge and his house was quickly flooding. He blasted out his French doors to let the water rush through. He would have drowned. Several days later when there was no electricity there were some miscreants in the neighborhood. Two blasts from the shotgun into the air and they left. I do not recall anyone here on the Coast who was a law abiding citizen being in trouble for carrying a firearm. When the National Guard arrived they were a little more jumpy at first, but calmed down after a while. | |||
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Im with you. Ill be around the house from now until its passed. Ill damn sure be protected in the same fashion I usually am, and am licensed by the state to be. Just the thought of that right being questioned whem Im most likely to need it infuriates me. | |||
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Legal or not, that's a situation I'd be armed for. | |||
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 latest NOAA forecast (11 pm EDT) | |||
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Well done sigmonkey!  | |||
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I lifted this from today's Miami Herald. I think it expresses the feelings of those that live in Florida or in areas impacted by hurricanes. When Donna hammered the state in 1960, we huddled inside my parents’ shuttered house and listened to the news on a transistor radio, hoping we wouldn’t run out of batteries. There was no Weather Channel, no colorful cone to contemplate, no spaghetti models to ponder. The sound of trees snapping is what told us the storm had arrived. Now, thanks to amazing science, we can start fretting 10 days in advance, as soon as the first unruly cloud creeps off the coast of Africa. Here’s a line that native Floridians love to hear: “You were born here. You must be used to this.” Seriously? Nobody ever gets used to it, no matter how many hurricanes they experience. If you’re not worried, you’re a certifiable moron. The wait is always grinding. The blow is always frightening. The cleanup is always grueling. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I for one can do without the media hype, and all the anticipatory anxiety that goes along with that. Having time to prepare also means have LOTS OF TIME TO WORRY. JHMO | |||
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In retrospect, I might add that following the hurricane with Andrew, we had a lot of clean-up from the destruction to homes and businesses. In order to quickly clear the streets and roadways, they contracted services. Many backhoes and bulldozers were up and down neighborhoods pushing debris into piles to be picked up and transported to the fill sites. Leaving behind so much debris to include screws, roofing nails and other sharp objects on the roadways. Within the first month following clean-up, I had 3 flats from roofing nails and screws left behind on the roads. Everybody I know pretty much had several flats in the affected areas, so be mindful, I'm sure there's going to be plenty of clean-up from debris! Regards, Will G. | |||
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I wonder how the 20+ story high rise buildings in Miami Beach will fare in 120 mph winds. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Link to the European and American ensemble models. The ensemble models are spaghetti plots of multiple runs of each model with slight changes in the variables. Looking at the European ensemble model, it looks like any changes would have the storm going west of the current forcast track. The current NHC forecast also looks like it's going west of Miami, up the middle of Florida and then into Georgia. The 2am Tuesday is about 35 miles northeast of our current location. At the very least, it looks like we're not driving home, Punta Gorda, on Monday. We'll have to decide sometime tomorrow if we should leave Georgia and which way to go. | |||
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 ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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He must have been standing on his balcony. [snicker] -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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Maybe they will act as a buffer.
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Relax Floridians. This entire section of Florida Statutes relates to Riots, Affrays, Civil Disorder CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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They seem to hold up fine. In fact, my coworker who is on the ship with me now lives in Fort Lauderdale right on the Intracoastal, and he told his wife to go into one of the condominium high rises that he has access to to ride out the storm. It's on the 18th floor. It'll definitely be safer there than in his house. He said that during Wilma he lived on the 18th floor of a building and could feel and even see the building swaying, but in the end he came out fine. Must be pretty unnerving though to see plates shaking and chandeliers swaying with the building. The sound of the wind is also pretty intense as it moves between the buildings and whatnot. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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If this is an historic storm past experiences might not reflect the reality on the ground. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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The hysteria being whipped up by the news media does not match reality, either. Calling this storm "historic" is, at this point, silly and wishful thinking on the part of those who benefit from the hysteria. Anyone ever hear of Hurricane Andrew? This storm may very well be worse than Andrew, but we do not yet know what will happen. | |||
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The media has really been putting their best acts forwards here in Miami locally. They're really doubling down with this storm as it approaches. In fact, their faces seemed a little disappointed that the storm has most recently been downgraded to 155mph this morning, but they add that hook that "Don't forget folks...it's still right on the border of a category 5, which makes it a devastating Category 4" Now, here locally they're pushing huge storm surge warnings and and massive flooding  Honestly in the 63yrs I've lived thru storms here in Miami, I've never heard the media scaring the folks as much as today, it definitely creates shear chaos.Regards, Will G. | |||
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I am not surprised in the least. | |||
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Those buildings are often some of the safer ones. Solidly build with steel and cement. Stay on the first floor or two where they may be flooding and away from windows where the wind is coming from. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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