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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by sdy:
Mueller:

"I take your question."

What does that even mean, "I take your question"?

"I recognize that you've asked a question, and understand the question you've asked."

IOW, nothing.

This from Newt Gingrich...



Newt Gingrich: I watched Mueller's testimony. Here's my biggest question

The biggest conclusion I reached after watching Robert Mueller in front of Congress was that he clearly did not have a detailed knowledge of the report issued in his name.

He failed to answer more than 200 questions.

He frequently was not familiar with citations from his own report.

On several key points, he contradicted his own report and his own letters to Attorney General Barr.

When he said he never asked his team their political views I believe him.

It also signals that the most charitable conclusion you could reach was that Mueller had come of age in an era of professional responsibility and did not realize he now lived in an era of harsh, even vicious, partisanship.

My first reaction to his assertion that he did not ask the political opinions of his staff was that it was laughable that he could randomly assemble a hard-line anti-Trump group of Democratic prosecutors without a single pro-Trump Republican lawyer in the room.

However, the more I watched him, the more I came to the conclusion that he had been a figurehead. The tough younger Trump-hating Democrats had networked with each other and assembled a legal team dedicated to destroying Trump and protecting the Clintons.

Seen from this perspective, it is a tribute to President Trump that despite their best efforts these deeply hostile prosecutors simply could not find any evidence of serious wrongdoing. They could write innuendo -- and huff and puff -- but in the end the Trump wall of obeying the law withstood the best these smart, tough widely-experienced Democratic prosecutors could do.

Wednesday’s stunningly inadequate performance by a widely respected career civil servant (my own tweet on his appointment had been entirely positive and it was only while watching the team he assembled that I grew hostile to his project) raises its own new questions.

If Mueller has been as out of touch with his report over the last two years as he was Wednesday, then who was driving the team and who was writing the report?

It is clear Mueller does not know the details of his own report or of the two years of investigations behind the report.

Who then does know all those details?

Who masterminded putting Paul Manafort in solitary confinement for months?

Who made the decision to not look into the Steele Dossier, the company that paid for it, or the links to the Clinton campaign?

After Wednesday’s disastrous performance by the so-called leader of the Mueller investigation and report, the attorney general should ask for a thorough internal review of how that system worked, who made the decisions, and how internally hostile to the president they were.

There was no Mueller report. There was a report signed by Mueller, but it was really someone else’s work. This was the biggest lesson from Wednesday's hearings.



https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...vestigation-congress

Almost a year ago I wondered if Mueller was actually in charge of the investigation when we were told he wouldn't talk or take questions about it. I think the 15 Hillary lawyers ran the the show and he was used as a front to make it look credible. The Dems took a chance yesterday hoping he'd do their dirty work for them and it blew up in their faces.

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Originally posted by Sigmanic:
This from Newt Gingrich...

When he said he never asked his team their political views I believe him.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinio...vestigation-congress

On that part of his testimony, I believe him too. What wasn't mentioned was that most of these employees were not just casual Dems who made and occasional contribution to a candidate. They were super hard core partisans, many of whom attended or planned to attend Hillary's "victory" party. As such, they had an obligation to disclose that to Mueller and remove THEMSELVES from consideration for the jobs. I did not work in law enforcement when I was a Federal employee, but a part of our code of ethics was to not work on any cases that you had a personal relationship with the subject or had any relationship that gave the appearance of bias, either pro or con. Shame on these employees.

Watching MSNBC right now...to them the most important thing to come out of the dimwit fiasco yesterday is “Russia Russia Russia” cyberactors...not much on the failure of their “savior” Bob’s performance to the American people. They have really been damaged

IT'S NOT A TOOMAH!!

How much damage has MSNBC done to the Left with their conspiracy theory coverage of this issue? Krystal Ball has an opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...B2c&feature=youtu.be

When Republicans were commenting on how "pro Clinton biased" the Mueller team was, sitting next to Mueller was Aaron Zebley.

Zebley was former FBI. He went into private private practice in 2014. He worked at the same firm as Mueller (WilmerHale law firm).

Zebley left Wilmerhale (and his million dollar plus job) to join the Mueller SC team in 2017.

When he was at Wilmerhale, Zebley represented the man who set up the private Clinton email server. That man was Justin Cooper.

I didn't watch all the testimony, but that would have been an example for Republicans to bring out. Don't know if they did.

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Originally posted by sdy:
When Republicans were commenting on how "pro Clinton biased" the Mueller team was, sitting next to Mueller was Aaron Zebley.

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I didn't watch all the testimony, but that would have been an example for Republicans to bring out. Don't know if they did.

I don't know if it came up during the testimony, but it was hammered hard on Twitter and articles the day before.

It was requested that he be able to testify, but that was rejected; instead he could only consult / advise Mueller.

I'd venture that if he had been allowed to speak, he would have taken a lot of the questions.


https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.de08c42c4a03

https://www.washingtontimes.co...rmer-chief-staff-as/

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Originally posted by sdy:

When he was at Wilmerhale, Zebley represented the man who set up the private Clinton email server. That man was Justin Cooper.

I didn't watch all the testimony, but that would have been an example for Republicans to bring out. Don't know if they did.

Yes, it was mentioned during questioning by Rep. Kelly Armstrong, R-N.D.

That was one time that Mueller got indignant and defended his hiring practices.

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Originally posted by sdy:
Last Sunday James Comey tweeted:

This week, an American patriot takes center stage: he doesn’t want attention; has principles and follows them; and always tells the truth. What an opportunity for young people to be inspired. What a great opportunity for both parties in Congress to follow his example.

guess I missed the inspiration part

Maybe he meant a different Robert Mueller...…..HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.

Nuff said. No more need to elaborate.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.

It keeps getting delayed and delayed. I think it's September now. And that is-- I hope-- what is keeping Barr from doing anything-- he needs to wait for the release of the IG's report.

Mueller hired Weismann
Weismann hired the Dem lawyers
Weismann wrote the report
Weismann wrote the press release
Mueller was briefed on the Dem questions
Mueller stalled on the Rep questions
It has clearly been a biased investigation from day one.
You ain't seen nothing yet. As long as Trump is President (5 1/2 more years) the Dems will do anything they can to bring him down. Hell he beat the best(Hillary) the Dems could throw at him. Wish I could be around to see how this goes down in history. I hope Trump pardons all of them. Even Cohen being the jerk he is.
Just my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.

It keeps getting delayed and delayed. I think it's September now. And that is-- I hope-- what is keeping Barr from doing anything-- he needs to wait for the release of the IG's report.

Watch this video with Joe DiGeneva from the Trump thread, he answers this at the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MHCZ89I77M

Bottom line, the rats see the jig is up and an actual prosecutor is looking into things (Durham), so they are all clamoring to have Horowitz re-interview them so they can revise what they said before and maybe avoid being indicted.

The IG doesn't matter anyway, it is what comes out of the DOJ/Durham investigation that will matter.

My fingers are crossed....but this attempted coup took nearly 3 years to unwind, I'm not expecting to see perp walks anytime soon.

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I'm not expecting to see perp walks anytime soon.

The problem with this is that Barr only has until noon on 20 January 2021 to get people charged and in the court system. Nothing after that is guaranteed. That's why all the delays. Tic toc run out the clock just like they did when they kept delaying info to the republican house.

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I'm not expecting to see perp walks anytime soon.

The problem with this is that Barr only has until noon on 20 January 2021 to get people charged and in the court system. Nothing after that is guaranteed. That's why all the delays. Tic toc run out the clock just like they did when they kept delaying info to the republican house.

Yeah, but his real deadline is next summer, to wreak havoc on the 2020 election.

Everyone pointed at Grandpa Mueller's "sterling" resume when he was named Special Counsel. If his name is on the Report was just for credibility, it begs the question; how much else in Mueller's past is built on bullshit or the laurels of others?