"I recognize that you've asked a question, and understand the question you've asked."
IOW, nothing.
July 25, 2019, 01:22 PM
Sigmanic
This from Newt Gingrich...
Newt Gingrich: I watched Mueller's testimony. Here's my biggest question
The biggest conclusion I reached after watching Robert Mueller in front of Congress was that he clearly did not have a detailed knowledge of the report issued in his name.
He failed to answer more than 200 questions.
He frequently was not familiar with citations from his own report.
On several key points, he contradicted his own report and his own letters to Attorney General Barr.
When he said he never asked his team their political views I believe him.
It also signals that the most charitable conclusion you could reach was that Mueller had come of age in an era of professional responsibility and did not realize he now lived in an era of harsh, even vicious, partisanship.
My first reaction to his assertion that he did not ask the political opinions of his staff was that it was laughable that he could randomly assemble a hard-line anti-Trump group of Democratic prosecutors without a single pro-Trump Republican lawyer in the room.
However, the more I watched him, the more I came to the conclusion that he had been a figurehead. The tough younger Trump-hating Democrats had networked with each other and assembled a legal team dedicated to destroying Trump and protecting the Clintons.
Seen from this perspective, it is a tribute to President Trump that despite their best efforts these deeply hostile prosecutors simply could not find any evidence of serious wrongdoing. They could write innuendo -- and huff and puff -- but in the end the Trump wall of obeying the law withstood the best these smart, tough widely-experienced Democratic prosecutors could do.
Wednesday’s stunningly inadequate performance by a widely respected career civil servant (my own tweet on his appointment had been entirely positive and it was only while watching the team he assembled that I grew hostile to his project) raises its own new questions.
If Mueller has been as out of touch with his report over the last two years as he was Wednesday, then who was driving the team and who was writing the report?
It is clear Mueller does not know the details of his own report or of the two years of investigations behind the report.
Who then does know all those details?
Who masterminded putting Paul Manafort in solitary confinement for months?
Who made the decision to not look into the Steele Dossier, the company that paid for it, or the links to the Clinton campaign?
After Wednesday’s disastrous performance by the so-called leader of the Mueller investigation and report, the attorney general should ask for a thorough internal review of how that system worked, who made the decisions, and how internally hostile to the president they were.
There was no Mueller report. There was a report signed by Mueller, but it was really someone else’s work. This was the biggest lesson from Wednesday's hearings.
Almost a year ago I wondered if Mueller was actually in charge of the investigation when we were told he wouldn't talk or take questions about it. I think the 15 Hillary lawyers ran the the show and he was used as a front to make it look credible. The Dems took a chance yesterday hoping he'd do their dirty work for them and it blew up in their faces.
July 25, 2019, 01:35 PM
erj_pilot
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
July 25, 2019, 02:00 PM
Fed161
quote:
Originally posted by Sigmanic: This from Newt Gingrich...
When he said he never asked his team their political views I believe him.
On that part of his testimony, I believe him too. What wasn't mentioned was that most of these employees were not just casual Dems who made and occasional contribution to a candidate. They were super hard core partisans, many of whom attended or planned to attend Hillary's "victory" party. As such, they had an obligation to disclose that to Mueller and remove THEMSELVES from consideration for the jobs. I did not work in law enforcement when I was a Federal employee, but a part of our code of ethics was to not work on any cases that you had a personal relationship with the subject or had any relationship that gave the appearance of bias, either pro or con. Shame on these employees.
July 25, 2019, 02:09 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
Watching MSNBC right now...to them the most important thing to come out of the dimwit fiasco yesterday is “Russia Russia Russia” cyberactors...not much on the failure of their “savior” Bob’s performance to the American people. They have really been damaged
"we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet
July 25, 2019, 02:30 PM
parabellum
IT'S NOT A TOOMAH!!
July 25, 2019, 04:27 PM
Sigmanic
How much damage has MSNBC done to the Left with their conspiracy theory coverage of this issue? Krystal Ball has an opinion.
When he was at Wilmerhale, Zebley represented the man who set up the private Clinton email server. That man was Justin Cooper.
I didn't watch all the testimony, but that would have been an example for Republicans to bring out. Don't know if they did.
Yes, it was mentioned during questioning by Rep. Kelly Armstrong, R-N.D.
That was one time that Mueller got indignant and defended his hiring practices.
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July 25, 2019, 06:10 PM
kramden
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Last Sunday James Comey tweeted:
This week, an American patriot takes center stage: he doesn’t want attention; has principles and follows them; and always tells the truth. What an opportunity for young people to be inspired. What a great opportunity for both parties in Congress to follow his example.
guess I missed the inspiration part
Maybe he meant a different Robert Mueller...…..HAHAHAHAHAHA!
July 25, 2019, 07:15 PM
12131
Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.
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July 25, 2019, 07:21 PM
Jimbo54
Nuff said. No more need to elaborate.
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July 25, 2019, 07:27 PM
justjoe
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.
It keeps getting delayed and delayed. I think it's September now. And that is-- I hope-- what is keeping Barr from doing anything-- he needs to wait for the release of the IG's report.
"You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone."
July 25, 2019, 07:34 PM
9mmnut
Mueller hired Weismann Weismann hired the Dem lawyers Weismann wrote the report Weismann wrote the press release Mueller was briefed on the Dem questions Mueller stalled on the Rep questions It has clearly been a biased investigation from day one. You ain't seen nothing yet. As long as Trump is President (5 1/2 more years) the Dems will do anything they can to bring him down. Hell he beat the best(Hillary) the Dems could throw at him. Wish I could be around to see how this goes down in history. I hope Trump pardons all of them. Even Cohen being the jerk he is. Just my 2 cents.
July 25, 2019, 07:39 PM
Strambo
quote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Sorry if I missed it, guys, but where the hell is that IG Horowitz's report? All I've been hearing for the longest time repeatedly is, it's done, or almost done, and it's any day now, when it will be released. Damn, what's the hold up? I want to see the treasonous maggots be held accountable and go to prison.
It keeps getting delayed and delayed. I think it's September now. And that is-- I hope-- what is keeping Barr from doing anything-- he needs to wait for the release of the IG's report.
Bottom line, the rats see the jig is up and an actual prosecutor is looking into things (Durham), so they are all clamoring to have Horowitz re-interview them so they can revise what they said before and maybe avoid being indicted.
The IG doesn't matter anyway, it is what comes out of the DOJ/Durham investigation that will matter.
My fingers are crossed....but this attempted coup took nearly 3 years to unwind, I'm not expecting to see perp walks anytime soon.
“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik
The problem with this is that Barr only has until noon on 20 January 2021 to get people charged and in the court system. Nothing after that is guaranteed. That's why all the delays. Tic toc run out the clock just like they did when they kept delaying info to the republican house.
July 25, 2019, 07:54 PM
RHINOWSO
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
quote:
I'm not expecting to see perp walks anytime soon.
The problem with this is that Barr only has until noon on 20 January 2021 to get people charged and in the court system. Nothing after that is guaranteed. That's why all the delays. Tic toc run out the clock just like they did when they kept delaying info to the republican house.
Yeah, but his real deadline is next summer, to wreak havoc on the 2020 election.
July 25, 2019, 07:57 PM
jsbcody
Everyone pointed at Grandpa Mueller's "sterling" resume when he was named Special Counsel. If his name is on the Report was just for credibility, it begs the question; how much else in Mueller's past is built on bullshit or the laurels of others?
