Dang! I kinda liked that guy. I really hate to see that turned out the way it did.

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Nacho?

That last phone call to dad was, I think, the nail. Dad wanted good for him, he wanted dad protected.

What's the take on the guy who shaved his beard off??

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Originally posted by urbanwarrior238:
That last phone call to dad was, I think, the nail. Dad wanted good for him, he wanted dad protected.

What's the take on the guy who shaved his beard off??

I believe he was sacrificed to take the place of “Lalo’s” dead body from the ambush. There had to be a body and he was it. Burned up, wasn’t he?

Just watched my DVR recording of it.

Nacho was a scumbag drug dealer.

But a very sympathetic character, which is not unusual in the gangster genre. It was a sad end to his character, he did not make it to Canada after all.

His death reminds me of Frank Pentangeli in Godfather II. He took one for the people he worked for, and for the family left over to be taken care of.

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Originally posted by Butch 2340:
Nacho?

How about his BHP? That is one awesome gun.

Huh...I have the puzzle pieces, but can't put them together...

Episode 5, "Black and Blue": What in the hell does Lalo need with the lead German digger's wife?? How would he have even known who the guys were that were working for Gus digging the meth facility under the laundromat??? Would be interesting to know what the sticker says that is on the bottom side of the slide rule encased in resin.

After next week's episode is the mid-season break...

Not for sure. Lalo is one cagey guy. I bet he is off to see the other men who worked in the dig.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Huh...I have the puzzle pieces, but can't put them together...

Episode 5, "Black and Blue": What in the hell does Lalo need with the lead German digger's wife?? How would he have even known who the guys were that were working for Gus digging the meth facility under the laundromat??? Would be interesting to know what the sticker says that is on the bottom side of the slide rule encased in resin.

After next week's episode is the mid-season break...

These ^^^ out of the Blue storylines is what makes this and BB such a classic. It will all eventually come together in some epic event. And I agree, how did he find her? For what purpose? It didn't gel but it will!!

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Huh...I have the puzzle pieces, but can't put them together...

Episode 5, "Black and Blue": What in the hell does Lalo need with the lead German digger's wife?? How would he have even known who the guys were that were working for Gus digging the meth facility under the laundromat??? Would be interesting to know what the sticker says that is on the bottom side of the slide rule encased in resin.

After next week's episode is the mid-season break...

Sticker underneath is the company that encased and engraved the slide rule.

What better way to find out the names of the persons involved in the design and construction of the meth lab than starting with the one who contracted to do the job and work backwards from there?

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Not for sure. Lalo is one cagey guy. I bet he is off to see the other men who worked in the dig.

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I nailed that one. Nice to see Lalo take one for the team!

**SPOILER Below (sort of)**

Well now we know why we never see Howard in BB. I still think Kim eventually (once they get a hold of the vets' little black book) gets herself disappeared by the vacuum cleaner guy.

Now we wait for The last half of the season which starts 11 July.

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Well now we know why we never see Howard in BB. I still think Kim eventually (once they get a hold of the vets' little black book) gets herself disappeared by the vacuum cleaner guy.

I have some thoughts about this, but will hold off for a while.

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Well now we know why we never see Howard in BB. I still think Kim eventually (once they get a hold of the vets' little black book) gets herself disappeared by the vacuum cleaner guy.

Now we wait for The last half of the season which starts 11 July.

No I don't think vacuum cleaner for Kim. She's too daring, up for a challenge, she's learned from Jimmy to be conniving. I think Kim and Lalo have destiny together?? Just saying...

Is Lalo setting Jimmy up to get Mike over? Did Lalo figure out the Desert shoot out, finding his car.etc..

Cant Wait. What a ride it's been.

The teaser when the house is getting emptied out, all I saw were what appeared to be Jimmy’s personal effects being removed or did I miss anything of Kim’s being taken out too?

Does Kim run off with Lalo? I think Kim craves money and power, that’s one way to get it. She recognizes Jimmy’s in over his head and can only go so far, he’s a low level player. But with Lalo, who knows how far she can go?

Jimmy goes off the deep end, gets leaned on by the Feds or the cartel? Decides to break clean and go off the radar? How do we know Vacuum Cleaner guy didn’t set Jimmy up in the mall scene and preparing to start blackmailing him? New identity #2 was going to be double the original price.

Last night redeemed this series for me. I've been a vocal critic of BCS for a variety of reasons, I'm now anxious to see it play out.

Halfway through the last show, I told my wife how much I resented BCS. I was in awe of Breaking Bad, a show that was filled with characters I didn't like, played by actors I didn't like. But they had caught lightning in a bottle, the show worked so well!

As such, BCS has seemed so much more forced. But last night Jimmy and Kim have been made to face who they truly are, try as they might, they'll not escape that. They can spout their platitudes, equivocations and perceived good intentions, they can't really hide now. I say good, I'm on for the ride to the end.


***spoiler for shovelhead***

Gotta be careful looking at YouTube, one suggested vid for me highlighted Kim's golden toilet.

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The teaser when the house is getting emptied out, all I saw were what appeared to be Jimmy’s personal effects being removed or did I miss anything of Kim’s being taken out too?

Does Kim run off with Lalo? I think Kim craves money and power, that’s one way to get it. She recognizes Jimmy’s in over his head and can only go so far, he’s a low level player. But with Lalo, who knows how far she can go?

Jimmy goes off the deep end, gets leaned on by the Feds or the cartel? Decides to break clean and go off the radar? How do we know Vacuum Cleaner guy didn’t set Jimmy up in the mall scene and preparing to start blackmailing him? New identity #2 was going to be double the original price.

Time lines with BCS and BB tell a lot. Kim and Lalo aren't players in BB. Yet Jimmy has a going practice in his shit-hole strip mall location and is a big player in the end game of BB. We know Walter and Jessie work in the lab after completion, and at that time Chicken man is pretty secure, well as secure as a major player in the drug trade interacting with the Mexican bad guys can be. What a show.

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Does Kim run off with Lalo? I think Kim craves money and power, that’s one way to get it. She recognizes Jimmy’s in over his head and can only go so far, he’s a low level player. But with Lalo, who knows how far she can go?

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I doubt it. Lalo is a stone cold sociopath and Kim could care less about money. She did not appear excited after Howard was killed. More like repulsed. Lalo himself goes for the stripper type.

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Originally posted by shovelhead:
How do we know Vacuum Cleaner guy didn’t set Jimmy up in the mall scene and preparing to start blackmailing him? New identity #2 was going to be double the original price.

That's highly unlikely. He could have done it to Walt and didn't. Walt is higher on the wanted list and probably had more money to extort. He has shown to be a stand up guy, making at least one return trip all the way to NH to resupply Walt.

Sadly, since Robert Forster has passed, all we are likely to see is an old red Previa pulling up to get Kim.

Early in this season I was convinced that Kim would die at some point in this final season, well before the Breaking Bad timeline overlaps.

The BCS people have already said that Walt and Jessie will reprise their roles before this season is over. Jesse already knew who Saul was when he drove Walt there. I have to think if Kim were killed, Saul would not have been able to be so happy go lucky/flippant in his first scenes in BB.