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Those first 3 laps before the red flag were spectacular racing. TIGHT everywhere and hips, elbows, and knees out!!! It looked like bumper bikes old school Nascar type racing and it was fun. Aleix had a few good hits from MM93 and they took a toll on him. Pecco lost a lot in that race yesterday. Not saying he would have won the race, but I'm certain he wouldn't have 11th behind the guy that caused the red flag to begin with...Don't want to take anything from Dani--all last week, I was hoping that he would whip the shit out of the entire field and win. Kind of a F-U to HRC. Alas, he couldn't do it but damned if he didn't try. Finishing 10th behind the Marquez bros was very solid considering it's been 3 years since he raced. Olivera should be furious at Michelin. I'm sure there are gonna be some harsh words from his team regarding the chunking in the front tire. Maybe he overcooked them, but to me, it simply looks like a manufacturing defect. As for the track and it's safety? I think there are better ones available to race on and if the riders themselves have safety concerns, then we should listen. Personally, I'd like to see more rider input about track selection. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Safety commission meets every Friday evening after practice at every round. There are some very vocal riders about Spielberg. Rubber chunking off Michelins is nothing new. 2006, Rossi had it happen 2-3 different times. Shanghai comes to mind. Whole sections of tires just like you posted above. Crazy, 15 years ago and same problem. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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Joan Mir speaking about safety issues at the Red Bull Ring. Link to article "T3 is critical, really dangerous especially in the wet," said Mir, who finished second in Sunday's race. "What is also very dangerous on this track is T1 and T3 because at the exit of these corners there is an uphill and then it drops down. And if something happens there, you don't see it." On lap three, KTM rider Dani Pedrosa fell on Turn 3. Several riders narrowly missed him before Lorenzo Savadori of Aprilia hit his bike. The bikes came to rest in the middle of the track and caught fire. Pedrosa, returning to MotoGP after two years as a test rider, walked away but Savadori was removed on a stretcher and will have an operation on a broken right ankle on Monday. Also from the article and quite interesting.... “There are some critical points but for sure Turn 3 is critical because normally it's there where we always have accidents or they have to stop," said Sunday's MotoGP winner Jorge Martin, who struck a slightly more optimistic note. "It seems that in future the layout will be different so I think they will solve this problem because we arrive at a very high speed into that corner and also there is an uphill after, when you open the throttle. "You can't see and that's why maybe Savadori crashed. So I think in the future it will be okay." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Vinales suspended by Yamaha
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Gerloff back in GP if MV gets more than a 1 race suspension? The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Mav has been badmouthing his boss and tried destroying one of the allotted engines out of spite. My guess is he’s out for the rest of the season. Aprilia is crazy if they get in bed with him. He’s quite a diva and I’m not impressed by his performance. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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No. You’d think so with all these new school so called “experts” who have watched the sport for a couple seasons and think they know everything. Some of these journalists are straight hacks too. The newer or younger gens know nothing of destroying a tire in pit lane or on the cool down lap blowing smoke all over the fucking place! Those were the days, I’m especially fond of them one handed. Vale’s were epic on the NSR and 211v. Nah, he left it in 5th and didn’t upshift to 6th for the “couple seconds” Yamaha wanted him to. Let’s call it 2 races last weekend because of yet another red flag at the safest track in the world. Race 1 he is there, menacing and a threat for the rostrum. Race 2, start goes to shit. I think the ground loop, telemetry, got all fucked up because he started from pit lane. If you remember, bike stalled. Whether he caused it or a clutch snafu/bike issue. He pushes it into pit lane for a pit lane start, almost left pit lane for the sighting lap, then reversed it up to just hold there, no sighting lap for him. Probably fucked up the telemetry (electronics are all tied to the ground loop in the track so the bike knows where it is at all times, like GPS) so all during the race the dash is flashing pit lane, fucking up. So maybe he wasn’t shifting into 6th because the dash, the bike, or something was not working right. Who knows. All I do know is he is getting slagged proper on the GP forums. I’m no fan of his, nor any Spanish rider for that matter, but Yamaha has a real bad history these last few years in the traction area, the engine, and especially the electronics. Problem after problem. It was so bad a few years ago the chief Yamaha GP engineer had a special press conference and publicly apologized to Mav, Vale, and the public. The Japanese just don’t do things like that, so it was bad. Yamaha has a history, like Suzuki, of investing when they are down, then when the bike is competitive they quit investing, and get left behind by other mfr’s. Namely Honda and Ducati in recent years. Mav has had issues with the M1 in recent years, Vale as well. So it’s not unique to Viñales. Jarvis and Yamaha really fucked up when they sacked Mav’s crew chief, Esteban Garcia. Esteban and Maverick are close friends and it’s not something Maverick wanted, at all, but Yamaha did what they wanted to do. That’s where all this shit started, the sacking of his crew chief. This is why Maverick is like fuck this, I’ve had enough. He and Vale got nothing but excuses and I think the reality is last year, this year, development is wrapped like a bow around Fabio. They did this exact same thing before with Lorenzo. And it’s the same problem that has plagued Repsol in recent years with Honda wrapping the whole bike around Marquez, which is why nobody else has done shit with it. Vale didn’t go to shit in one year, hell less than a year. He was on the podium last year, fighting at the front, and this year in the rear with the gear. The reality is the M1 has not been developed for him and his riding style for years. It’s still the Lorenzo style development. Fabio does so well because he rides a lot like Lorenzo, at least much more closely to that style than either Mav or Vale. And just a guess but Mav has been there longer and all of a sudden all dev is going to Fabio. That + firing his crew chief = disaster. Lin Jarvis is a bit of a prick. And more evidence for M1 issues, look at Franco. He was what #2 last year in the championship, winning races. Then this year, fuck all, even before the injury. Night and day for Franco and Vale compared to last year and just more of the same bullshit for Maverick. Mav should just leave. The KTM didn’t work at all for Zarco. The bike didn’t work for him, it wasn’t the right environment, and even though I don’t like his riding or him either for that matter, it was the right move for him to leave KTM and join Ducati satellite team. Look at him now. He’s competitive. And Mav, shit I haven’t seen a Spanish rider in decades that wasn’t hot headed. They all are. It’s their DNA. Want a better example, date a Spanish lady. You’ll figure it out when they are pissed off. Hot headed is putting it mildly. And people are slagging Maverick off. Talking mental problems and what not. Give me a fucking break man. Meanwhile Marc Marquez just slammed into Aleix Espargaro, twice, in both race starts, deliberately, or unnecessarily, and hardly a word. MotoGP is often handbags and bullshit. One rider, zero talk. Another oh he needs to seek counseling. Rose tinted glasses, big time. Aprilia would be stupid not to grab him, and Ducati I know is eyeing him up for 2023 as they wanted him badly before he resigned with Yamaha. Maverick has the raw talent. He just needs the right team and bike. All these guys are mental, egotistic and need some massaging. When Maverick believes in the bike, isn’t getting a bunch of excuses and the bike is working, he is capable of beating Fabio and Marquez, and has done so. He is so damn fast so a change is in order. He switches to something like the Ducati and it’s the same story then slag him off. He’s only 26. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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I think Jarvis has to go personally. He's Yamaha's Puig and he is holding them back. I just read what Miller had to say about the ordeal and completely agree with what he said. End of the day, you're there to collect a paycheck and if you don't do what you're paid to do....well, you get benched!This message has been edited. Last edited by: mutedblade, ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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https://motomatters.com/analys...ursday_round_up.html What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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Prefontaine, your assessment above was comprehensive, intelligent and complete. I completely agree with you. Thank you for that write up. And you are right, while Zarco is not my favorite rider, he is doing well on Ducati. ___________________ "He who is without oil, shall throw the first rod" Compressions 9.5:1 | |||
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Red Bull Ring to get revised turn 2 GP Layout
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Petronas withdraws SRT Title Sponsorship - SRT drops Moto 2/3 teams
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Prior to the flag those first few laps at Austria were awesome. It was close and there was lots of action. I’m hoping for more of that on Sunday. Watching Mir make an aggressive move and get the better of Marquez was pretty damn fun. Cal Crutchlow calls Austria “a shit track” but where did he finish the race? Hmmmm. Doesn’t seem like a track were he is very good... I’d almost be so bold as to call him a shit rider at that shit track. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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And you’d be a damned fool to do so. Cal is the best British rider since Barry Sheene. He has won races, many podiums, and has had more surgeries and injuries than you will your whole life. His body paying the expense for motorcycle racing. Cal is very respected in the paddock, and considered a “straight shooter”. He can say what he wants now because he isn’t a series rider who has been given strict rules about what they can say, what they cannot, and a whole stack of politics. Miller, Crutchlow, are just a few riders that will tell you the truth. Either way I’m not going to sit here and watch you call that man shit. You’re so far damned off base, Cal lives on the Isle of Man. But this is more postings from you that are all hat and no cattle. You don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Time to put you on the ignore list so I don’t have to read the ignorant shit any longer. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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I would have expected someone who lives at the Isle of Man to do a bit better at “the most dangerous track in Motogp”. Maybe it’s not a great idea to call a track shit when your performance at the top level could be called the same thing. He is not a champion at the top level of competition. Period. You can equate him with Barry but he isn’t on that level. If this offends you then it is what it is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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WHAT A RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was probably the most exciting, unpredictable and wonderful race I have seen yet. That pit stop by Jorge Martín was wild! Jorge came in hot and hit the brakes hard enough to send the rear wheel skyward as he jumped off the bike and his crew grabbed it. That was a hell of a show. How many different race leaders were there? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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This pic pretty much sums up that race.... Awesome showdown in the final 3 laps. Fans, commentators, and Dorna are already calling it the race of the decade. I'll admit, not exactly how I thought it was gonna play out but close. I got 2/3rds of the podium right. ETA: Jorge Martin is gonna be a star. He's making the Ducati turn. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Jorge showed at the beginning of the season he’s that Ducati rider Corse has been searching for. These two weekends will grow his confidence immensely and he’s a threat for Marquez and Fabio from here on out. He’s riding the Ducati, as well as Pecco, different than the rest. Riding more the front than the rear. The race was certainly dramatic. I’m not Gaga over it because I was crossing my fingers someone didn’t get seriously injured or worse. The good news is that Red Bull finally listened to the riders and will make the adjustments to the track necessary for safety. Bad news is that today could have gone horribly wrong for someone. Between 2 and 3, you go down, it could be bowling balls. It was real cute at the end that they penalized Brad. Last year they said if there is no advantage gained by exceeding track limits then you will not be punished, but today they went ahead and penalized. Kind of a joke. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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Towards the end of the race before it got crazy you could see the wind was blowing pretty hard. One of the track officials was under an umbrella that was being blown around quite a bit. The Ducati’s aero didn’t seem to be too phased by the wind. I was surprised by that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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