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Vinales to Aprilia
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I recorded the race on Hulu/NBCSN and they let nascar play over so my recording ended literally right before the warm up lap. UNBELIEVABLE! So pissed. And I looked and couldn't see that they are going to replay it. | |||
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It sucks having to pay, but the Moto GP Videopass is a real value if you watch all of the races. You can even go back and watch races from way back (though the quality is lacking). ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Watching now, 7 laps in, it went to golf during the pre-race & I was worried it would overrun the race. Came back to GP just before lights out. NBCSN on YouTubeTV. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Airing a lame AF NASCAR race over MotoGP should be illegal. I’d be pissed too. They aired a bullshit race series over one of the best races I’ve ever seen. Crap like that is what drove me to get the MotoGP subscription and I can honesty say it is 100% worth the cost. Sadly, the coverage MotoGP in America is abysmal at best. I’ve actually enjoyed the hell out of getting access to the free practice sessions. The qualifying process is such that even the free practices play a role in qualifying and are surprisingly fun to watch. The behind the scenes access it gives you post race is pretty cool too. Regarding the recent news of Maverick going to Aprilia I am glad they were able to come to terms for a contract for 2022. It’ll be cool seeing Maverick rejoin his old team mate in an attempt to once again lift up a struggling manufacturer to greatness. I hope he finds success on the Aprilia. Having ridden only inline fours at the top level it’s going to be interesting to see how he adjusts to the V4 Aprilia. I’ll be rooting for Maverick and Aleix Espargaró so long as they are not battling a GSX-RR. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Wow, that was an insane close to that race. Some amazing riding to do that on slicks! Really shows the difference between slicks & wets on a damp/wet track. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Add in difference in power delivery, electronic aides, brakes, & suspension and it made that 1st place finish that much more spectacular with a “dry” bike. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Do you guys know if both of the bikes MotoGP riders use have power settings/fuel maps for rain? Was there a power setting Brad was able to toggle to on his bike during the race to reduce power while on those slicks? I assume if there is a rain setting it probably was designed to be run with rain tires? I wonder how Brad pulled it off? Do you think he switched to the lowest power delivery fuel map and hoped for the best? It was pretty amazing to see the side by side real time comparison between rain tires and slicks during a race. The lean angle and performance those rain tires deliver is quite shocking. The championship is looking like it’s going to be a battle between Ducati and Yamaha. I think the Ducati has improved the most this year, it’s gained even more straight line speed and in the hands of a rider like Jorge it can turn almost as well as a Yamaha or Suzuki. When piloted by a rider like Jorge or Bags the Italian machine looks like a real deal championship contender this year. If Suzuki can’t pull off a title defense (it’s not looking good) I’d love to see one of Ducati’s riders beat Fabio and win the championship. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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MotoGP Races in the Wet – What Changes? It doesn't specifically say that the bikes have pre-set fueling/maps for wet. I think most teams would have at least 1 setting that would reduce power though, just in case and especially if rain is anywhere in the forecast, just to get the rider back to the pits if it did start to rain. I'll have to look, but I think Simon did a Tech Talk on wet bike prep. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Judging by the riders being instructed "Mapping 2" on the dash, I can't imagine any reason to not have a 'rain' map. BB definitely had some wild slides on those closing laps. Can't imagine how that had to feel. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Mutedblade thank you for posting up that link! Very good stuff! There are more links in that article that gave me quite a bit of interesting reading material. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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They have several maps. One to reduce fuel towards the end of the race if the system calculates the rider has spent too much fuel. Another for rain. Map changes power, timing, TC, a bunch of parameters. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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That's what I figured. I've seen the commentary popup showing 'Mapping 2' pretty often after the 1/2 point of the race. Wasn't sure if it was more power or conserve. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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As the bike burns fuel and its weight changes along with the tire condition the mapping tries to take that into consideration and provide the most power possible without providing too much power. If they didn’t alter the fuel maps they would probably all run out of fuel before the end of the race. They have a specific amount of fuel that has to get them to the end of the race. It’s a balancing act where they attempt to provide the best possible performance throughout the entirety of the race. Right now I cannot fathom how Ducati is making that kind of power and not running out of gas towards the end of the race. They did their homework and it’s amazing to watch. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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F1 is the same since refueling was banned. Except they're more restricted on 'power modes' and have to race in the setting used in quali. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Desmo valves sip fuel compared to pneumatic valving. This is why Ducati consistently bust everyone’s ass down the straight. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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I didn’t even think about the desmo valves. If Suzuki is still running that centrifugal driven VVT it doesn’t seem to be doing much at all to help them in the HP department. At least not in top speed, it might be a factor to their good starts in past races. Anyone know if they ditched that VVT design they had when they first rejoined MotoGP. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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Let me just say on a sidenote, that I have experience with this. ___________________ "He who is without oil, shall throw the first rod" Compressions 9.5:1 | |||
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British GP - Vinales Out, Crutchlow In
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It makes sense. It’s good for the fans to have a hometown hero compete at their Grand Prix. It’s also removing the chance of Maverick and Fabio having any contact with each other again at the start of a race. That contact between Fabio and Maverick at the beginning of the Dutch GP is when the situation really blew up. Sure that situation was simmering before but during the Dutch GP it reached critical mass. The celebration after the race was beyond weird. The last thing Yamaha wants is the possibility of Maverick and Fabio knocking each other out of the race like Iannone did to his teammate years ago. I don’t see Maverick riding a Yamaha ever again. ***edit to correct that contact was at the Dutch GP not TT***This message has been edited. Last edited by: stickman428, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance | |||
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