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To use a British-ism, HANS does fuck-all for initial range of lateral head movement. It's designed to prevent a basilar skull fracture and similar, like what killed Dale and others. You know, your big honkin' poorly attached head moving around enough that it severs your spinal cord. Generally not a good thing.

If you look at people driving or riding in these cars without HD neck muscles, their head moves around a LOT.

If you recall when Oliver Bearman subbed for Carlos in Saudi Arabia this year, by the middle of the race his head was all over the place. In interviews afterwards he indicated he was sore for quite some time. This for a guy who'd been running F2 and single seaters his whole life, and was prepping for hopeful F1 seat.

It sometimes seems ex F1 drivers are hyperbolic about so much, but in this area I think they are being truthful about the enormous demands.



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Watched the first half of testing, day 1.
Mostly had it on in the background, listening to the commentary & would flip over to it for video when something interesting popped up.

Other than a couple spins, the 10 almost all made full race distance.
Other than that, just a lot of on track running & data collection.




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Mandatory 2-stop for Monaco GP

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...Ue16nwpOcqBe9f6PYgkq

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The FIA World Motor Sport Council has approved proposals for a mandatory two-stop strategy to be implemented at the Monaco Grand Prix.

It comes following a meeting between stakeholders on Wednesday, coinciding with the start of pre-season testing at the Bahrain International Circuit.

The change, which will apply to both wet and dry races, has been pushed through “with the primary intent of improving the sporting spectacle” of the event.

Drivers will now be required to use at least three sets of tyres in the race, with a minimum of two different tyre compounds to be used if conditions are dry.




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Monaco has always been a hard place to pass but the cars are so much larger than a few years ago, it’s virtually impossible.
An interesting experiment.
I think they have modified the DRS this year, so it’s less effective but the logic behind that seems suspect to me.
I’m ready to see some racing.


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Hopefully, it will do the job that couldn't happen last year when LeClerc and Ferrari were running slower laps than F2 cars just to save tires. Hell, if you aren't going to bring back refueling to help get the cars smaller, mandating a minimum of 2 pit stops will help spice things up as it felt like the majority of races have become boring 1 stops.
 
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Or have Pirelli reduce the number of compounds & make them less durable [but not prone to exploding] and make an extra stop a factor of tire wear, not by the rules.
Give them some fast, sticky tires that wear a bit quicker. That, plus the slightly smaller '26 cars might work.

Monaco will still be a parade, though. Without a major car size reduction, not sure how you make passing a possibility there.




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Same way they did during the Schumacher years: In Laps and Out Laps.
 
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But, with cost caps, and the ever increasing focus on sustainability, no concept of needing extra sets of tires [above the current allocation] for 20 cars, would never fly.

IIRC, once they're mounted, they cannot be dismounted & reused.
Australia, Covid, I recall that all the tires had to be left & were sent to a concrete plant for fuel. Even though almost all of them were unused.




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They already get 20 sets of tires per race weekend. That's already more than enough, and if this isn't going to be a big deal at Monaco with the cost cap, it won't be for anywhere else.
 
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Soft tires doesn't help.
The tires shed the rubber bits, marbles, and everywhere but the racing line ends up covered in those roundish bits that look and act much like loose gravel.
Just creates even more of a parade.
The pit extra stop is about all they can do. The track layout is the problem and not much can be done about that.


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I wish we could just go back to the v10. . . use the smaller chassis as well.



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I wish we could just go back to the v10. . . use the smaller chassis as well.


There's been some talk about it recently. Doubt it will go anywhere, but we can hope.
Watched Hungary & Spa 2004 today. 19.5k rpm from the BAR, love that sound.




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I hate two things about IndyCar. The 'everyone uses the same chasis' car. That does not make me want to watch it. And the windshield.

anyway, I hope that since they are technically faster than F1 now (so I have seen argued on several youtubes) maybe, that will force a return to a simpler and more elegant time. When cars were pure, and built for speed. . .



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The aeroscreen is necessary on ovals as speeds are higher and a regular halo wouldn't stop debris. However, I'm wondering if they can save weight going with a halo on road courses to offset the weight from the aeroscreen and hybrid.

While I'd like to be back to multiple chassis, I'm happy with everyone in the same chassis. It turns IndyCar into a Driver's Championship, and cuts down on the excuses. Hopefully, the new car will be finished in time for 2027 because while the DW12 has provided amazing racing during its service, it's been Frankensteined to a point where we need something new.
 
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I hate two things about IndyCar. The 'everyone uses the same chasis' car. That does not make me want to watch it. And the windshield.

anyway, I hope that since they are technically faster than F1 now (so I have seen argued on several youtubes) maybe, that will force a return to a simpler and more elegant time. When cars were pure, and built for speed. . .


Sample size of 1, but as of 2019, F1 was still faster on lap times.
COTA Records [race laps only]
2019 F1: 1:36.169
2019 Indy: 1:48.8953
12 seconds is a pretty big margin for the best lap from each.

AFAIK, COTA is one of the few that has run most of the mainline series. I was shocked to see that even F4 is faster than Nascar there: 2:08.107 vs 2:11.549, on the full course.

Nascar ran the shorter course this year, and was still slower than F1 on the full course Big Grin
Nascar: 1:39.244
F1: 1:36.169




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Mandatory 2-stop for Monaco GP

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...Ue16nwpOcqBe9f6PYgkq

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The FIA World Motor Sport Council has approved proposals for a mandatory two-stop strategy to be implemented at the Monaco Grand Prix.

It comes following a meeting between stakeholders on Wednesday, coinciding with the start of pre-season testing at the Bahrain International Circuit.

The change, which will apply to both wet and dry races, has been pushed through “with the primary intent of improving the sporting spectacle” of the event.

Drivers will now be required to use at least three sets of tyres in the race, with a minimum of two different tyre compounds to be used if conditions are dry.


Saw an interesting comment from Bernie Collins about the two stop saying basically if you're starting last she'd stop on lap one then again on lap two. Really wouldn't have anything to lose.
 
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I saw that too. Run the hard & hope for some chaos to run you up the order. I'd have to look, but I wonder how many of the rookies have run Monaco, does F2 do support races there?

If you can get ahead, Monaco has proved many times that an inferior/broken car can hold the lead. Senna/Mansell, Riccardo/Hamilton. A good strategic driver can hild a faster car behind fairly well.




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Cadillac gets the official green light for 2026
Back to 22 cars on the grid!

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...axQLtLPc7k9TFl4eNrQN

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It has been confirmed that the Cadillac Formula 1 Team have received final approval to join the sport, with the team – who are backed by TWG Motorsports and General Motors (GM) – set to be part of the F1 grid in 2026.

Today, the FIA and Formula One Management announced that the Cadillac Formula 1 Team have met their requirements to join the existing 10 teams starting next year.

Stefano Domenicali, President and CEO of Formula 1, said: “As we said in November, the commitment by General Motors to bring a Cadillac team to Formula 1 was an important and positive demonstration of the evolution of our sport.

"I want to thank GM and TWG Motorsports for their constructive engagement over many months and look forward to welcoming the team on the grid from 2026 for what will be another exciting year for Formula 1.”

FIA President Mohammed Ben Sulayem added: “Today marks a transformative moment, and I am proud to lead the Federation in this progressive step for the championship. The FIA Formula One Championship's expansion to an 11th team in 2026 is a milestone. GM/Cadillac brings fresh energy, aligning with the new FIA 2026 regulations and ushering in an exciting era for the sport.

“The Cadillac Formula 1 Team’s presence in the paddock will inspire future competitors and fans. Their entry strengthens our mission to push motorsport’s boundaries at the highest level.”

Dan Towriss, CEO of TWG Motorsports, said: "For the past year, we have worked hand in hand with GM, to lay a robust foundation for an extraordinary Formula 1 entry.

“Now, with 2026 in our sights after today’s final approval from the FIA and Formula One Management, we’re accelerating our efforts—expanding our facilities, refining cutting-edge technologies, and continuing to assemble top-tier talent.”

GM President Mark Reuss commented: “We’re thrilled the Cadillac Formula 1 Team is official, as the team has been accelerating its work.

“We’re incredibly grateful for the support from the FIA and Formula One Management leadership for us and for our partners at TWG. The excitement only grows as we get closer to showcasing GM’s engineering expertise on the prestigious global stage of F1.”

The announcement comes after appointments were confirmed across recent months, including former Marussia Sporting Director Graeme Lowdon joining as Team Principal and industry veteran Russ O’Blenes becoming CEO of TWG GM Performance Power Units, which will contribute towards Cadillac becoming a “full works” team by the end of the decade.

“I couldn’t be prouder of the effort put in thus far by the entire Cadillac Formula 1 team," said Lowdon. "This announcement is the next step in getting on the grid and continued work toward building a full-works team.

"Through the long and thorough application process, we never lost pace in planning or belief in our mission. We can’t wait to go racing and give fans a new team to cheer for."

O’Blenes added: “Ongoing preparation and development of our power unit continues, and we’ve been working hard to hire some top tier talent. As we continue to add more experienced engineering personnel, we look forward to running our first V6 in the near future.”

The Cadillac outfit – which has bases in Fishers, Indiana; Charlotte, North Carolina; Warren, Michigan; and Silverstone, England – have assembled a team of over 200 people working on aerodynamics, chassis and component development, software and vehicle dynamics simulation since the squad's bid to enter Formula 1 was announced, with development work continuing at pace ahead of joining the grid in 2026.




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Now the pieces start moving to fill those 2 seats.
Assumption would say an American driver gets 1 seat, maybe promotion from Indy. IIRC, Colton Herta was the favorite last season when all this was brewing.
Bottas seems to be favored for the 2nd seat, if they want an experienced driver alongside a rookie.




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Bottas would be my pick.
He's a level headed, experiences and fast guy that would be very helpful to a new team on a steep learning curve.


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