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The track limits on T10 entry was a new thread. Usually it's track limits on exit. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Most other tracks are self-limiting in that regard. Street and natural road courses would require the car to be out in the dirt beyond any entrance curbing but this track is on a huge asphalt lot. Maybe a very large and abrupt curb could limit this but might be a safety issue they don't want. Putting a gravel section on the outside of the entrance like they have at the exit of several corners might be the answer. I'd like to see them add some sections with more real corners for passing purposes before next year. Even a chicane or two would be an improvement. That would also help the tire life so they don't need the artificial lap limits. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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At least Yuki still has a job despite the late decision. He very well could have ended up jobless as just about everyone has all of their personnel signed for next year. I get the feeling that McLaren choking at Qatar has killed Piastri's WDC chance, and McLaren's "Papaya Rules" neutrality is going to let Verstappen steal the WDC in front of international television. | |||
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Numerically, I think Vegas hurt McLaren much more. It's frustrating, but hopefully this weekend will be free of controversy. I hope they don't do scripted rules like in Qatar ever again. _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | |||
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That wasn't scripted, it was a flat mistake. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/...s-win-away/10781333/
I'm not entirely sure why they didn't run at least one McLaren on softs as they wouldn't run the full 25 lap stint and Piastri finished about 8 seconds behind Verstappen. That might have been down to "Papaya Rules" but not pitting was just a screw up. In other news: https://racer.com/2025/12/03/a...s-ahead-of-abu-dhabi
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I meant scripted by Pirelli/FIA. It was immediately obvious to everyone that McLaren made a mistake. If it happened with Piastri too close to the pit entrance, or just past it, then I understand that (not sure where he was relative to the entrance on track) but not pitting the 2nd car was inexcusable - perhaps out of "fairness" they treated them the same. 2 races in a row that McLaren team decisions have cost the points that would have sewn this up by now. _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | |||
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Whoops. At least this time it was on safety grounds like last year, but hopefully it's fixed new year with the new cars and new compound. At least it wasn't artificial like Monaco this year. All of this could be fixed by refueling... | |||
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Regarding the Qatar strategy missteps by McClaren… That race clearly shows the Achilles heal of McClaren that is their inability to think on the fly and act accordingly. Red Bull on the other hand are the masters of just that. ———- I was watching FP1 earlier today and they mentioned that Honda offered Red Bull a ridiculous price on their engines if Yukon would stay as their #2 driver. Obviously they declined but did accept a better than normal deal on their engines if Yukon would stay part of the team which he did… ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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Red Bull has only one car to be concerned with so that simplifies things. Their strategy does seem to be spot on most times and Max knows how to use that to his best advantage. Not sure about that engine story since Honda’s going to Aston and RB to Ford next year. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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That was my thought on it too. Semantics, but, IIRC, the RBR engine next year is Red Bull Powertrains, woth Ford assisting on the hybrid portion. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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W O W! Those last two qualifying laps by Max were amazing…no one had an answer! It’s going to be an amazing race tomorrow! ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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Verstappen on pole with Norris 2nd. Normally, I'd say Max is the champion, but all Norris needs to do is stay on the podium and he's the champion. I think Oscar is cooked. | |||
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Norris just has to finish in the top three and it doesn't matter what the others do. After the end of lap one, it will be much easier to predict. That's where his biggest challenge is, don't choke and be too conservative and don't crash.| Max and Oscar will both just have to go for the win, even though Max could still win if Lando's out for any reason. Russell's the wild card who could screw up the plans of any or all the others. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
We will see if they can get Lando to relax going into the first turn. Just let Max go. "but what if Oscar tries to dive in there." "What if Russel goes for it . . . " The first two laps will be interesting. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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Lando just need a solid start and a clean sweep through the first lap. He can tail Max all the way to the WDC. No sense taking any risks for him, he's got the most to lose into T1. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Outstanding. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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My phone spoiled it for me...was scrolling on here & YouTube popped up the WDC result... Still looking forward to watching the race, the back the the archives for the shirt off-season. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Lando owes Kimi Antonelli a very nice Xmas gift, | |||
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