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Ferrari to power Cadillac F1 team in "multi-year" agreement

Ferrari will supply the new entry with a power unit and gearbox for two seasons before the GM team develops its own package

Ewan Gale Dec 10, 2024 at 9:01 AM Upd: Dec 10, 2024 at 11:37 AM

Ferrari has announced a "multi-year agreement" with Andretti Formula Racing to supply the Cadillac Formula 1 entry with power units upon its entry to the championship in 2026.

The team, led by TWG Global - which recently took over the running of Andretti Global - and General Motors, was provisionally accepted onto the grid from 2026 by F1 last month, though full confirmation must yet be given.

GM will run the team under the Cadillac brand and, as part of the previous Andretti-named project that was rejected as the 11th team with previous attempts, announced its intention to manufacture its own power unit to race with.

But the date given for that to be a reality was 2028, meaning a power supply was needed for its initial two years of racing.

A statement from Ferrari read: "Ferrari N.V. today announces a multi-year agreement starting from 2026 with Andretti Formula Racing LLC, regarding the supply of power unit and gearbox to the racing team led by TWG Global and General Motors, subject to Andretti Formula Racing LLC receiving written confirmation from the FIA – F1 that its entry to the 2026 FIA Formula One Championship has been accepted and approved."

GM and TWG Global last week announced former Virgin/Marussia/Manor boss Graeme Lowdon as the team principal for the project to help guide the upstart through its initial development.

The move to supply Cadillac will see Ferrari move back to two customer teams from 2026, with Haas remaining with close ties. Sauber, which is currently powered by Ferrari, will use Audi power when it becomes the German marque's works team.

Ferrari team principal Fred Vasseur added: "It's great to see the commitment of another American team, backed by one of the most highly respected marques in the motor industry, at a time when Formula 1 is increasing in popularity in the United States.

"We are delighted therefore that we will be supplying the team with our power unit and gearbox as the basis of this technical collaboration. It means we will continue to have two "customer teams" in the championship with all the benefits this brings in terms of technical development within Ferrari."

Board director, 1978 world champion Mario Andretti, had revealed a deal was struck with Renault under the team's previous guise, but the playing field had changed given the change of management at Andretti Global as well as the decision for the French manufacturer to cease its power supply in the championship and instead switch its Alpine team to Mercedes power.

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1 step closer to 11 teams, just hope they're not mobile chicanes the first year.

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They shouldn't be any worse than Haas or Sauber. Both off them are teams that have used the trifecta engine/gearbox/rear suspension from Ferrari.

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Final World Destructors Championship standings

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Williams €13,839,600
Red Bull €6,148,400
Ferrari €4,892,600
Aston Martin €4,375,000
Mercedes €4,337,600
Racing Bulls €3,686,200
Sauber €2,924,400
Haas €2,666,200
Alpine €2,371,000
McLaren €2,347,200

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Given the financial straights GM is in it wouldn’t surprise me to see Ferrari supplying engines beyond the 2 years mentioned in the article..

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Given the financial straights GM is in it wouldn’t surprise me to see Ferrari supplying engines beyond the 2 years mentioned in the article..

I think that they had an increase of revenues around 44% over last year. They'll still have to pony up for the RenCen, however.

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Aston Martin €4,375,000

Was Stroll 4M of that?

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As of last month, Stroll was slightly ahead of Alonso, but both were at close to $1.7 million.

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As of last month, Stroll was slightly ahead of Alonso, but both were at close to $1.7 million.

I was joking, but surprised to later find a video outlining the actual damages to see how even they were, and him being lower, overall, than I expected compared to other drivers.

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To be fair to Stroll, he knows how to crash a car without breaking expensive bits.

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That is a very specialized skill

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quote:
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To be fair to Stroll, he knows how to crash a car without breaking expensive bits.

Might have something to do with his crashes not trying to go faster, because he isn't aware of cars around him (mirrors, what mirrors?)...or how close the walls really are

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Verstappen to do FIA work in Rwanda after swearing

Max Verstappen will do an activity with junior competitors in Rwanda after swearing in a news conference at the Singapore Grand Prix.

The world champion was ordered to complete some "work of public interest" for the transgression, a punishment he described as "ridiculous" at the time.

Governing body the FIA said after the season-closing Abu Dhabi Grand Prix that Verstappen's duty would coincide with its prize-giving in the African country's capital next week.

The top three drivers in the F1 world championship are required by regulation to attend the end-of-season FIA prize-giving ceremony. Verstappen's punishment has been tagged on to the mandatory trip.

A statement said: "While in Kigali, (Verstappen) will undertake some work with junior competitors as part of the grassroots development programme organised by the Rwanda Automobile Club (RAC).

"The activity will involve an FIA affordable cross car which was built locally in Rwanda by the RAC from blueprints provided by the FIA."

Verstappen's penalty, along with a fine for Ferrari's Charles Leclerc for a similar offence at the Mexico City Grand Prix, led the Grand Prix Drivers' Association to publish an open letter asking the FIA to treat them like adults.

The letter also criticised the FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem, who has caused widespread dismay in F1 at his actions this year, for his "tone and language" when addressing the topic.

Yeah, who doesn't want to drive a car at speed that was built in a grassroots development with the Rwanda Automobile Club?
How is this not basically forced labor? Here, let me get my checkbook, are we good?

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A largely European [and increasingly American] sport, has their awards ceremony in...Rwanda

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quote:
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A largely European [and increasingly American] sport, has their awards ceremony in...Rwanda

^^^^
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A largely European [and increasingly American] sport, has their awards ceremony in...Rwanda

$$$ in someones pocket is the most likely answer.
Rwanda's bidding to hold a race there and greasing the right palms is the way to make that happen.

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A largely European [and increasingly American] sport, has their awards ceremony in...Rwanda

$$$ in someones pocket is the most likely answer.
Rwanda's bidding to hold a race there and greasing the right palms is the way to make that happen.

Yup, they are looking to bring F1 back to Africa

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
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Originally posted by P250UA5:
A largely European [and increasingly American] sport, has their awards ceremony in...Rwanda

$$$ in someones pocket is the most likely answer.
Rwanda's bidding to hold a race there and greasing the right palms is the way to make that happen.

Yup, they are looking to bring F1 back to Africa

Rwanda wouldn't have been my first thought for an African race.
Kyalami obviously, not sure what to think for #2

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Kyalami is their only Grade 1 that's ready to go now, but with F1's recent street track addiction they could go anywhere.

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