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Originally posted by corsair:
Was fully expecting to see Theon beaten to death on the beach.

His story arc went from an arrogant jerk, to pathetic creature. Theon became a cowardly, timid, shell of a man, who was incapable to fending for himself and reliant on others; whether a slave or, a free but scared soul. The GoT MO is not one of redemption stories and seeing Theon getting his ass beaten, was expecting his story to end...not one where a knee to the nub/scar gets him a shot of adrenaline.

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Originally posted by corsair:
Was fully expecting to see Theon beaten to death on the beach.

His story arc went from an arrogant jerk, to pathetic creature. Theon became a cowardly, timid, shell of a man, who was incapable to fending for himself and reliant on others; whether a slave or, a free but scared soul. The GoT MO is not one of redemption stories and seeing Theon getting his ass beaten, was expecting his story to end...not one where a knee to the nub/scar gets him a shot of adrenaline.

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Originally posted by snidera:
... it wouldn't have made sense to march on the wall before this - they didn't have an ice dragon to knock it down.

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Originally posted by Orguss:
Two of the things that bother me most about the show are the inaccuracies in time and distance. It's been calculated that the distance between Hardhome and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea is approximately 150 miles and that the army of the dead could cross that distance in about 3 days, yet it's months between when John and Tormund went on their mission to Hardhome and when the dead finally arrive at the Wall. (This is from researching the Internet.)

When Jon leads the expedition to capture a wight, they encounter the army of the dead probably 50 miles from the Wall. (I'm totally guessing this.) So we're supposed to believe that Gendry ran all that distance back to the Wall in the space of a few hours, which is hardly possible, sent a raven 1500 miles to Dragonstone, which would take about 30 hours, and that Dany could fly back on Drogon at an unknown speed. Yet, we see the stranded group as having spent only one night before being rescued by Dany. (This is actually addressed on the Internet, showing that the raven and Drogon would both have to fly at far greater speeds than is realistic.)

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Originally posted by Orguss:

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Originally posted by snidera:
... it wouldn't have made sense to march on the wall before this - they didn't have an ice dragon to knock it down.

They've been marching on the Wall all this time. They only lucked out and acquired a dragon in the last few dozen miles before reaching it.

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Originally posted by rusbro:
^^^ This is one of the unfortunate byproducts of them having to compress all of the stuff that's supposed to happen into a limited number of episodes. I don't know why they feel the need to rush things, but I guess there were concrete reasons it had to be done. You'd think HBO wouldn't be any hurry to be done with the show, as it's got to be such a huge moneymaker for them. I bet there will be tons of subscription cancellations when it ends, though I'll stick around for Westworld, so long as it remains good.

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Originally posted by slammr:
Yeah the distance thing gets me too.. it's supposed to be like 1000 miles from Winterfeld to Kings Landing, yet Jon Snow seems to travel that in a couple days

And how does an ice breathing dragon destroy an ice wall. Makes no sense

Still can't figure out who will kill The Mountain. Would love to see Arya do it somehow

Will it be Theon or Yara that kills Euron?

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Originally posted by IndyRob:

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Originally posted by rusbro:
^^^ This is one of the unfortunate byproducts of them having to compress all of the stuff that's supposed to happen into a limited number of episodes. I don't know why they feel the need to rush things, but I guess there were concrete reasons it had to be done. You'd think HBO wouldn't be any hurry to be done with the show, as it's got to be such a huge moneymaker for them. I bet there will be tons of subscription cancellations when it ends, though I'll stick around for Westworld, so long as it remains good.

HBO wants more GoT, it's the showrunners who want to move on to other things.

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Originally posted by IndyRob:

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Originally posted by rusbro:
^^^ This is one of the unfortunate byproducts of them having to compress all of the stuff that's supposed to happen into a limited number of episodes. I don't know why they feel the need to rush things, but I guess there were concrete reasons it had to be done. You'd think HBO wouldn't be any hurry to be done with the show, as it's got to be such a huge moneymaker for them. I bet there will be tons of subscription cancellations when it ends, though I'll stick around for Westworld, so long as it remains good.

HBO wants more GoT, it's the showrunners who want to move on to other things.

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Originally posted by IndyRob:

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Originally posted by slammr:
Yeah the distance thing gets me too.. it's supposed to be like 1000 miles from Winterfeld to Kings Landing, yet Jon Snow seems to travel that in a couple days

And how does an ice breathing dragon destroy an ice wall. Makes no sense

Still can't figure out who will kill The Mountain. Would love to see Arya do it somehow

Will it be Theon or Yara that kills Euron?

I'm guessing that Sandor kills him with a sword set on fire with his blood ala Berac Dondarrion

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Originally posted by IndyRob:

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Originally posted by rusbro:
^^^ This is one of the unfortunate byproducts of them having to compress all of the stuff that's supposed to happen into a limited number of episodes. I don't know why they feel the need to rush things, but I guess there were concrete reasons it had to be done. You'd think HBO wouldn't be any hurry to be done with the show, as it's got to be such a huge moneymaker for them. I bet there will be tons of subscription cancellations when it ends, though I'll stick around for Westworld, so long as it remains good.

HBO wants more GoT, it's the showrunners who want to move on to other things.

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Originally posted by barley:

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Originally posted by rusbro:

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Originally posted by IndyRob:

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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm not so sure that was an ice dragon.

Seemed like he still breathed fire, only blue.

Are we sure? The wall didn't melt, it was crushed and fell to pieces.

Not positive, but it at least didn't seem like pure ice. Dragon's breath seems to carry a lot of force/staying power beyond mere flame, as if there's a volatile liquid that kind of explodes, and remains for a time after the initial blast.

The fire breathing dragons are breathing a flame much hotter than normal fire, i.e. can burn men straight to ash. I "imagine" that the frost flame is much colder than normal cold so much so that it is creating contraction on the wall that would cause the ice to fracture, etc.

Still we're talking about magical beasts and whatnot.