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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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And if they're in my house, I have far more amusing toys to choose from than a compact 9mm pistol. Big Grin

Just make sure to have your knife to fight to your pistol to fight to your rifle in the safe.

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Originally posted by lordhamster:

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Oh yeah, and it had the ridiculous paddle magazine release.

Say what you want about the paddle release, but they are undoubtedly better for CCW. Do a google search of gun forums and look up how many people accidentally dropped or dis-lodged their mags accidentally by putting pressure on the US-style button release. You'll find tons

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Originally posted by caneau:
The battle for my 150 square foot bedroom will be a long and bloody one. I'll bravely do a tactical roll out of my bed and pull up a copy of AirsoftGuy's speech just to make sure I get the wording down right.

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Originally posted by caneau:
So one example from a publication a few years back that occurred in a the most violent city in the world to a person who was targeted enough she needed a body guard. I live in a place where we have at most one homicide a year. I'll accept whatever risk I have when I go jogging without my body armor.

And if they're in my house, I have far more amusing toys to choose from than a compact 9mm pistol.

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:

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Originally posted by caneau:
So one example from a publication a few years back that occurred in a the most violent city in the world to a person who was targeted enough she needed a body guard. I live in a place where we have at most one homicide a year. I'll accept whatever risk I have when I go jogging without my body armor.

And if they're in my house, I have far more amusing toys to choose from than a compact 9mm pistol.

You asked "Have you ever heard of a defensive, non-LE use of a handgun where more than 10 rounds were used?" So my answer was YES.

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Originally posted by caneau:



And no, your .44 Magnum revolver is not a G19 competitor no matter how many times we watch Clint extract a 6" revolver from under a suit jacket without him looking awkward. If I tried that, I'd have the grace of a newborn gazelle seeing its tail for the first time.

A competitor isn't something or someone that is "almost as good".

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Originally posted by bionic218:

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1) It was called the Thunderbird : )

...Then, some fuckknuckle at the department you sold to shoots some overcharged hand load at a training session and his buddy videos the kaboom and it goes viral on youtube. Next thing you know, MAC is on there shoving eight pounds of goat shit into your chamber and dunking your gun in the lagoon to show the world how it won't go into battery. Yeager's on there too, talking crap about how he knew you back in his days at Blackwater and you never were worth a shit and everyone should buy a Canik instead. Then Haley accidentally shoots his videographer and blames it all on your gun. Even Hickok has an off day and can't hit the gong with it.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by caneau:



And no, your .44 Magnum revolver is not a G19 competitor no matter how many times we watch Clint extract a 6" revolver from under a suit jacket without him looking awkward. If I tried that, I'd have the grace of a newborn gazelle seeing its tail for the first time.

A competitor isn't something or someone that is "almost as good".

A competitor is something or someone that competes.

In the case of the .41 magnum revolver I just bought, it competed for the dollars in my wallet and won. I bought it instead.

I couldnt care less about Clint Eastwood, but a G19 will not be accompanying me in the brush or the woods, whereas the .41 will.

The G19 does not work well on my ankle, or under certain dress conditions, where other firearms do. There are times when a G19 is appropriate, and many times when it is not.

Your comments indivcate that you want a G19 clone to compete against itself. Same weight, same capacity, same dimensions, as though another non-identical firearm falls short of comparison with the holy grail. Not so. I get it; you're smitten with the G19 and live in a world in which you think nothing else can compare. That's fine and that works forbyou as long as you have your G19.

The rest of the world lives in a different place.

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Originally posted by abnmacv:
Glock 19 an excellent gun but the trigger will never compare to that of a Sig 228.

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HK P7 PSP with a butt mag release.thinner than a glock, better trigger, mag wont eject unexpectedly.

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...and the Ford Taurus was the pinnacle of automotive engineering...

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Originally posted by soggy_spinout:

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...and the Ford Taurus was the pinnacle of automotive engineering...

It was? I'm so glad I wasn't included on the distribution list for that memo back then. Who knows how my life would've ended up had I not been so blissfully unawares...

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Originally posted by bionic218:

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HK P7 PSP with a butt mag release.thinner than a glock, better trigger, mag wont eject unexpectedly.

You forgot to say twice the weight and half the capacity.

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You forgot to say twice the weight and half the capacity

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Originally posted by cslinger:

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You forgot to say twice the weight and half the capacity

And 3x the cost.

And I LOVE ME SOME P7's.