If concerned about knowing what the magazine capacity is why not do what Walther does and differentiate mag capacity by the color of the followers? Those stickers suck!

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by BigSwede:
Would like a size comparison with 365

CC9 vs P365

Thanks

It is bigger than the 365, I'm out. I went from a PM9 to a 365 with 10 round mag, I was ok with the slightly bigger 365 for pocket carry but I don't want to go any bigger

Available at Grabagun for $700. No thanks.
https://grabagun.com/heckler-a...+-+Behavioral+Banner

I'd like one without a rail, but am going to wait for the street price to settle down, also for any bugs to be worked out.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Available at Grabagun for $700. No thanks.
https://grabagun.com/heckler-a...+-+Behavioral+Banner

Full MSRP for the early adopters.

Gun deals reddit has a vendor selling them for 599.

I like my hk's but I feel like at this point the micro 9 market is saturated. The only reason for me to buy this is to reinforce my hk fanboy status. All the design aspects for this gun allready exist.

Maybe I'll grab it when its $479 next year for black friday.

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Maybe I'll grab it when its $479 next year for black friday.

Give me a C
Give a D
Give me N
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^^^ Making predictions about them being so late to the game, I see.

Here is the best review and discussion on the CC9. A couple of takeaways. First, HK spent nearly 7 years (SIG spent 2 years on the P365) making sure it worked right from the start (cough P365, cough P320). This included shooting nearly 750k rounds during testing and development. This was also the first HK designed initially for the US market. Street price will drop a Benjamin or so after the initial rush.

Edited to add: For those who aren't familiar with this guy, he is the HK version of Ernest Langdon or Robert Burke.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
I was really hoping for the SFP9CC.

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The video I posted on page 2 discusses the status of the SFP9CC briefly. In short, HK is still working on it.

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Originally posted by bnz42:
I'd like one without a rail, but am going to wait for the street price to settle down, also for any bugs to be worked out.

I’m actually very confident that there won’t be any bugs.

I’m really excited for the CC9. I think that despite being another polymer-frame striker-fired micro-9, it’ll add something great to that section of the market. My only “complaint” so far is aesthetics, but I’ll hold that thought until I actually get one in hand.

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I’m actually very confident that there won’t be any bugs.

I will be SHOCKED if there are no bugs or "undocumented features" so to speak. I love HK pistols but I take them warts and all and they have certainly released firearms into the wild that have needed revisions/changes etc. itty bitty guns are even harder to make work well across a wide spectrum of ammo.

While I truly think HK is at the top of the game in terms of QC, solid releases, with Glock close behind, the reality is moving from a prototype/limited production world to a mass production world is daunting for the best of them.

So I fully expect some minor teething issues/growing pains HK or not. Besides this is an in house American gun that likely will not be blessed by the Teutonic,Tibetan monks on the backs of the naked virgins with pure glacier water like the true German Wunder Weapons. I mean maybe somebody might pour some Becks over the guns resting on some drunk chick with a tramp stamp but those Teutonic monks don't fly cheap and have you tried to find a virgin in the US lately.

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Originally posted by cslinger:

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I’m actually very confident that there won’t be any bugs.

So I fully expect some minor teething issues/growing pains HK or not. Besides this is an in house American gun that likely will not be blessed by the Teutonic,Tibetan monks on the backs of the naked virgins with pure glacier water like the true German Wunder Weapons. I mean maybe somebody might pour some Becks over the guns resting on some drunk chick with a tramp stamp but those Teutonic monks don't fly cheap and have you tried to find a virgin in the US lately.

I totally understand where you’re coming from and were it almost any other company moving production from Europe to the U.S., I’d almost certainly agree with you. However, I think avoiding these kinds of issues is exactly what HK USA will bring to the table, precisely because it’s sorely missed almost everywhere else. That said, I have had nothing against Walther and Glock’s U.S. offerings so far. I think they’ll stay excellent, but I also think that a lot of that is the homelands (Germany and Austria) dictating how the show is run (thankfully).

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Originally posted by lechiffre:
Does this thing look like it was styled by Taurus, or is it just me??

Not just you. That's one of the most common criticisms so far.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
For the love of Christ please tell me those BRIGHT RED mag baseplates that have 72 font 10 rounds and 12 rounds on them are just for the press tour guns, if not it’s literally like HK looked at Springfield’s “Grip Zone” and said “Hold my beer”

They look like stickers. I saw another vid/photo without the 10rd/12rd on the mag bases.

After some farting around in the tiny 9 segment, I settled on the Hellcat Pro. After looking over the new HK offering I cant see it offers anything superior to the standard Hellcat or P365. The Hellcat was cheaper and Springfield sent me 3 free magazines to boot. The Sig is more affordable too and now has lots of aftermarket support. Lots of people will want to own one just to have the HK brand. I may try one out if prices drop and I do think a non rail model is a good move on HKs part.

I'll get one to shoot against my 365 (best I have found so far) that I don't really care for. Maybe it the micro 9s that I don't like but I keep trying to find an acceptable one.

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Originally posted by ACP1:
I'll get one to shoot against my 365 (best I have found so far) that I don't really care for. Maybe it the micro 9s that I don't like but I keep trying to find an acceptable one.

That's right about where I am. I haven't found anything yet that makes me want to replace my old "chopped service pistol" subcompacts (G26, P2000SK, and VP9SK). The biggest problem for me has been the ergonomics of ALL of the micro-9s so far, specifically (but not necessarily exclusively) the small grip circumference. My trigger finger always ends up poorly positioned, which seriously compromises shootability. That's a deal-breaker for me. And then there are other things I haven't liked, depending on the make/model:

Too short on capacity - Glock 43, Walther PPS, FN 503, S&W Shield
Manual of arms - FN Reflex, SIG P365
Additional grip issues - S&W Shield, S&W Shield Plus, Walther PPS, SA Hellcat
Trust/quality issues - SIG P365

I'm pretty adaptable, so I won't say these pistols were all totally awful and unacceptable (far from it). But the ONLY downside to my G26, P2000SK, and VP9SK has been that their thickness negatively impacts carry comfort (and that's the most acceptable compromise anyway).

If HK really cared about us, they would provide a variant of the MP7 for the commercial market. So done with HK..