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It is supposed to be a chassis system like the 320/365 so that means grip modules can be swapped out. I will wager that a paddle release grip module will eventually be available.

Paddle releases engage on the spine of the magazine while most button releases engage the sides of the mag. Some truly ambi buttons - or double acting buttons - engage the slide on the spine. From the photos the CC9 mags do not have grooves in the sides so they appear to lock on the spine. That's good because it makes replacement modules with paddles even more likely.
 
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I'll get one to shoot against my 365 (best I have found so far) that I don't really care for. Maybe it the micro 9s that I don't like but I keep trying to find an acceptable one.

That's right about where I am. I haven't found anything yet that makes me want to replace my old "chopped service pistol" subcompacts (G26, P2000SK, and VP9SK). The biggest problem for me has been the ergonomics of ALL of the micro-9s so far, specifically (but not necessarily exclusively) the small grip circumference. My trigger finger always ends up poorly positioned, which seriously compromises shootability. That's a deal-breaker for me. And then there are other things I haven't liked, depending on the make/model:

Too short on capacity - Glock 43, Walther PPS, FN 503, S&W Shield
Manual of arms - FN Reflex, SIG P365
Additional grip issues - S&W Shield, S&W Shield Plus, Walther PPS, SA Hellcat
Trust/quality issues - SIG P365

I'm pretty adaptable, so I won't say these pistols were all totally awful and unacceptable (far from it). But the ONLY downside to my G26, P2000SK, and VP9SK has been that their thickness negatively impacts carry comfort (and that's the most acceptable compromise anyway).

G43x?

I like both the G43X and G48. However, even though they meet my own 10rd minimum requirement, they are a little too long in the grip (at which point I expect a higher capacity). My G26, despite being chunkier, actually sticks out less.


What about a Glock 43X with the Shield Arms grip chop to take their 10 round magazine?


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^^^That would be acceptable, but I don’t like having to rely on aftermarket solutions for carry, reliable as they may be. I only use factory equipment for carry guns. As picky as I probably sound, it’s really only because this is an oversaturated market and it allows for that. I’m actually very adaptable. But the reason I’m excited for the CC9 is because I think it’s going to be the final piece of the puzzle to reel in those of us who still haven’t adopted micro-9s.


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^^^That would be acceptable, but I don’t like having to rely on aftermarket solutions for carry, reliable as they may be. I only use factory equipment for carry guns. As picky as I probably sound, it’s really only because this is an oversaturated market and it allows for that. I’m actually very adaptable. But the reason I’m excited for the CC9 is because I think it’s going to be the final piece of the puzzle to reel in those of us who still haven’t adopted micro-9s.


Have you tried the Wilson Combat grip module for the P365? I have a standard P365 with WC Grip Module with the weights and I think it’s superb. If I had to go with anything else I’d just go back to a Glock 26.5 or HK P30SK.


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Can’t say that I have. But a P365 is generally out of the question for me. I think that its lack of a trigger tab safety is a design flaw. If “flaw” is too harsh, it still at least requires a manual safety for me as a result, which I don’t really want on a micro-9. Even putting aside all of that, SIG’s current QC issues and “profit before anything else” way of doing things make them too untrustworthy for me. I’m not saying the other companies are angels, but again, there are too many other options on the market for me to take current SIG NH products as seriously as I took SIG DE (and older SIG NH) products.


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My reading of some articles shows that this gun is the first gun HK wholly made in the USA.

Apparently, 5 years of research, design and testing all in the USA.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/di...icro-compact-market/

I don't know whether or not it will have any teething problems, but to speak about the subject of teething problems....

If early guns teething problems means they're forever haunted by that
.....->

My early gen 3 Glock 32 357SIG broke the pins holding the locking block while at the range, making it a paper weight and useless if it had been being used for self-defense .

I could say this means all Glocks suck, I do use it as an example of why nothing is perfect.

Glock fixed it, and with regular maintenance (replacement of the pins around 3k-5K rounds) it won't happen again.

Teething problems on early models is a real thing for all manufacturers.

Stating only one companies problem while not being aware of the real issues with mass manufactured guns (and products) is ignorance at best, insincere at worst.

Also, there may be an issue with this gun being a "FCU" gun.

Steyr Arms having the first patent for a "FCU" type gun.

SIG beat Steyr Arms when they were sued for patent infringement.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law
/sig-sauer-beats-austrian-gunmakers-patent-infringement-claim

Can other companies make their own versions of a FCU based gun without violating the patents of Steyr Arms and now Sig?

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Meh.

This is sorta like when Mossberg got around to releasing yet another AR15.




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This is by far the most generic looking gun. But hey if this is HK's introductory offering to their new US mfg wing then surely things can only go up from here, right?
 
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If HK really cared about us, they would provide a variant of the MP7 for the commercial market. So done with HK..



P7's are one of the most interesting pistols every produced.

Are they a great option for an EDC pistol, IMHO opinion NO! They are a single stack 9x19 so are limited capacity. They can be finicky if you don't properly clean the gas piston i.e. they will lock up hard if you oil it! They heat up right quick so if you want to shoot a few hundred rounds of practice plan on plenty of cool down time after just a few magazines downrange. No interchangeable sights, no
RDS mounting etc etc etc.

P7's have been well surpassed by more modern pistols. They would be prohibitively expensive to manufacture today. They ARE really cool pistols but there are far more practical handguns produced today. I'm glad I bought the 2 I have when I did, they would be 3-5times as expensive to buy today........


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If HK really cared about us, they would provide a variant of the MP7 for the commercial market. So done with HK..



P7's are one of the most interesting pistols every produced...

He's talking about THIS.


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I don't get the love affair with the MP7. In full auto form, yeah fun toy, anemic round, easy to dump a mag on target. As a semi auto or semi auto pistol......MEH. I mean the the real deal is kinda meh to me.

As far as civilian legal versions of PDWs the FN PS90 makes more sense to me. Still a fairly anemic round but at least you have a sci fi looking cool gun, that actually has a stock etc.

Anyway, I've never understood the fascination with getting a semi auto MP7. I guess its just the old "I want what I cannot have" at play.

NOTE-I am not saying one shouldn't be offered. Hell I think we should be able to buy the real deal. I am just saying it doesn't blow my proverbial kilt up.


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I guess its just the old "I want what I cannot have" at play.

Of course. We often get that customer, though these days it's primarily about the ARs, AKs, SCARs, Tavors, etc., that we can no longer buy. But every once and awhile the HK fanboy pining for a SP7 version will show up.


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If HK really cared about us, they would provide a variant of the MP7 for the commercial market. So done with HK..



P7's are one of the most interesting pistols every produced...

He's talking about THIS.



My bad. Hi-Cap 22 magnum equivelants are much less interesting than P-7's IMHO..........


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Originally posted by 12131:
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Originally posted by djpaintles:
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Originally posted by CQB60:
If HK really cared about us, they would provide a variant of the MP7 for the commercial market. So done with HK..



P7's are one of the most interesting pistols every produced...

He's talking about THIS.


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For the love of Christ please tell me those BRIGHT RED mag baseplates that have 72 font 10 rounds and 12 rounds on them are just for the press tour guns, if not it’s literally like HK looked at Springfield’s “Grip Zone” and said “Hold my beer”


How do you like the garmin ? thinking about getting one of those.


I see those stickers in promo photos of a freshly unboxed pistol, but not in any of the shooting/in-hand reviews. So I assume they're easily removable, and merely intended to help a new owner recognize the difference in capacity between the two magazines when first opened.

For example:



versus

 
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I hope they sell a million of them. But this doesn't do anything my P365x can't and can't do several things the 365 can.
 
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I'm intrigued. Tested for 5 plus years? I'm in.
Carry my 365's but that trigger return spring may go 2k rounds or maybe 50? Kinda a nagging thing.

Wonder how many were in the first release? All gone.

Wonder how long to fill the next wave?

I'm in but not going to do 800plus on gb.

Was going to pick up a 365X slide on their sale but going to wait.
 
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I hope they sell a million of them. But this doesn't do anything my P365x can't and can't do several things the 365 can.

Just out of curiosity, what can the P365 do that the CC9 cannot?


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Just out of curiosity, what can the P365 do that the CC9 cannot?

#1 Take up less volume and fit in smaller spaces.
#2 Cost less while having a proven track record, i.e., better value.
#3 Has OEM mags w/ capacity up to 17 rounds.
#4 Option to convert to .380ACP.

After that would be the large aftermarket of available holsters, frames, barrels, sights, internal frame components, etc.

Some of those may change in the CC9's future but not #1.
 
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Just out of curiosity, what can the P365 do that the CC9 cannot?

#1 Take up less volume and fit in smaller spaces.
#2 Cost less while having a proven track record, i.e., better value.
#3 Has OEM mags w/ capacity up to 17 rounds.
#4 Option to convert to .380ACP.

After that would be the large aftermarket of available holsters, frames, barrels, sights, internal frame components, etc.

Some of those may change in the CC9's future but not #1.


Cost less? I just put one on layaway for $539.99 around the same optics ready P365 are going for in my area.


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